2012-2013 Offseason

[Patr1ck]

Yeah it would be great to trade one of the best upcoming stars who still has years of improvement for a solid player in his prime who has been bitching for a year about a trade.

[Andrew]

Not only that, but there's still the matter of whether or not Howard would sign an extension beyond this season. With a move to Brooklyn looking less and less likely, he may have to reconsider his stance but even then the Clippers may not be on his shortlist. Griffin meanwhile certainly still has room to grow as a player at both ends of the court, but even so he's still not someone you'd willingly give up for a player who's just going to bolt at the end of the season.

[Jhiane]

If we take a look at the Clippers now, they've got a lot of talent in their roster they got Jamal Crawford and resigned Billups. If Dwight really want to win a championship, he should go there.

Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups/Jamal Crawford
Caron Butler
Kenyon Martin
Dwight Howard/Deandre Jordan

this really looks a more solid contender to me while Griffin is in a maturation process

[Andrew]

Martin's a free agent and probably shouldn't be a starter unless he absolutely has to be. Even if they re-signed him, I still don't think that lineup makes the Clippers anywhere near a frontrunner for a championship.

[_Steve_]

Martin's a free agent and probably shouldn't be a starter unless he absolutely has to be. Even if they re-signed him, I still don't think that lineup makes the Clippers anywhere near a frontrunner for a championship.

I agree on that.

If we take a look at the Clippers now, they've got a lot of talent in their roster they got Jamal Crawford and resigned Billups. If Dwight really want to win a championship, he should go there.

Chris Paul
Chauncey Billups/Jamal Crawford
Caron Butler
Kenyon Martin
Dwight Howard/Deandre Jordan

this really looks a more solid contender to me while Griffin is in a maturation process

You should consider, that you won't be able to keep that group together AND get Howard. You have to give to get something in return.

[Jhiane]

I mentioned Blake Griffin in exchange

[Phil89]

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/07/rep ... -thompson/

With two days to go in Summer League and players battling for an open 15th roster spot, the Thunder have already found their last man. Oklahoma City has signed undrafted rookie Hollis Thompson from Georgetown to a three-year deal, the team officially announced Wednesday.

Thompson isn’t playing for anyone in Summer League as he’s been dealing with some recent injuries. He’s a rangy 6-8 small forward that as a junior averaged 12.8 points, and 5.5 rebounds per game while hitting 43.0 percent from 3. He’s a shooter by trade, knocking down perimeter shots at a high clip.

So Derek Fisher, Nazr Mohammed and Royal Ivey all won't be coming back. Eric Maynor coming back from injury covers the Fisher/Ivey loss (if you want to call it that) and we swap Mohammed for Thabeet. If anything that's a lateral move, although Thabeet has more potential upside, if only because of his age.

Perkins/Aldrich/Thabeet
Ibaka/Collison/Jones III
Durant/Hayward/Thompson
Sefolosha/Harden/Cook
Westbrook/Maynor/Jackson

[Andrew]

That'll be a very solid roster, they should stand a good chance at having another shot at the championship next year.

[SoF'nAwesome]

Durant is really banged up mentally, would be interesting to see how he performs this season.

As for the 2013 favorites, Lakers & Heat still leading.

Also, can't wait for the Howard drama to end.

[Andrew]

I think he'll be good to go once the season begins.

[Sauru]

i would trade griffin for howard straight up if he would sign extension. i think griffin is a bit over rated anyway

[benji]

i would trade griffin for howard straight up if he would sign extension. i think griffin is a bit over rated anyway

But Orlando wouldn't considering Griffin just twisted his knee and might be out of the Olympics.

We'll ignore the fact you can't trade them straight up.

[Kenny]

Durant is really banged up mentally, would be interesting to see how he performs this season.

As for the 2013 favorites, Lakers & Heat still leading.

Also, can't wait for the Howard drama to end.

So was LeBron, but look at what kind of a season he had after the Finals loss. I think Durant can comeback and compete with LeBron for the 2013 MVP trophy.

I'm also looking forward to a resolution for the Dwight Howard situation.

[Andrew]

i would trade griffin for howard straight up if he would sign extension. i think griffin is a bit over rated anyway

What do you do next year when Howard walks and you've got nothing to show for it, except perhaps a bad contract you had to take on to get the deal done?

[Jhiane]

Dwight had some interest playing in Lakers before but backed out when Kobe saying he will be the secondary option for the Lakers behind him. Dwight wants to play as a focal point of a team so maybe he still have interest playing with Clippers

[Sauru]

i would trade griffin for howard straight up if he would sign extension. i think griffin is a bit over rated anyway

What do you do next year when Howard walks and you've got nothing to show for it, except perhaps a bad contract you had to take on to get the deal done?

thats why i said, if he would re up with the clippers. of course any deal for howard should only be made if he agrees to stay with them

and ya benji anything else to make it work is just filler thats why i said straight up

[Patr1ck]

i would trade griffin for howard straight up if he would sign extension. i think griffin is a bit over rated anyway

What do you do next year when Howard walks and you've got nothing to show for it, except perhaps a bad contract you had to take on to get the deal done?

And after Griffin improves and becomes more than just a physical scorer and rebounder? Blake Griffin is already better than Dwight Howard was after his second season.

[benji]

and ya benji anything else to make it work is just filler thats why i said straight up

But it wouldn't be just filler, they'd have to give up something like Griffin, DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe to get Dwight. Maybe Butler instead of Jordan if they're lucky.

[NovU]

Wouldn't it be better down the road though for the Clippers with Chris Paul and Dwight as the centerpiece? I can envision good players wanting to play with those two more than Jordan, Griffin, and Paul trio. But of course, that's if the Clippers can re-sign him.

Obviously a lot of teams aren't taking chances because of uncertainity of retaining Howard. Makes me wonder what Howard truly have been looking for from this 'clusterfuck'. Why can't he really be more open to other options? Couldn't hurt imo.

[Radioman]

I think he was just bluffing to force the Magic to get a deal done with the Nets.

[Jhiane]

Griffin, DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe

that's a good package for me

[Andrew]

I think he was just bluffing to force the Magic to get a deal done with the Nets.

I think he may be serious, but he's probably going to reconsider that stance now that getting to Brooklyn and getting paid a lot of money at the same time is easier said than done. I'd be very surprised if he waited it out and signed there for peanuts next year.

[Patr1ck]

Why not keep Griffin in case D12 decides to bitch out again?

D12 and J-Rich for DJ, Caron Butler, and Jamal Crawford.

[Jackal]

Orlando would jump at that deal obviously..

[Sauru]

and ya benji anything else to make it work is just filler thats why i said straight up

But it wouldn't be just filler, they'd have to give up something like Griffin, DeAndre Jordan and Eric Bledsoe to get Dwight. Maybe Butler instead of Jordan if they're lucky.

not gonna lie i did not think too deep into it. pretty much just saying that i would rather have howard than blake. unlike most people i dont see griffin as having a huge ceiling. he will be like dominque just half as good