Chris Paul to Clippers! (Also, Odom to Mavericks)

[Main Bounce]

As long as Clippers don't give up Gordon, I'm fine with them doing this deal.

well thats too bad... because Hornets insist to include Gordon, Kaman and Bledsoe for the CP3 deal

[Jhiane]

the Lakers won't take Turk if they pursue Howard, indeed, the Magic expecting to offer Bynum and Gasol for Dwight but the Lakers are not willing with that.. and I think the Magic will trade Dwight before the end of the trade deadline
If I were the Clippers, i will give up Gordon but Kaman will not be included..

[air gordon]

A weak draft? This is supposed to be the strongest one since 03

that's a bold statement there. do you work for draftexpress or nbadraft.net? hehe...

i don't follow the college game much anymore. i saw a few games from the ACC-big ten challenge. i enjoyed watching Duke get destroyed by Ohio state.

but yeah- what is this assessment based on? the college season is barely underway and the "experts" are already predicting greatness??!!

[Patr1ck]

If the Clips land Paul without giving up Gordon, Griffin, or Butler,then that is a huge steal from what the Lakers pulled out of. However, giving up Kaman sucks if they can't sign DeAndre Jordan.

[rise]

Chris Paul to the Clippers! If this goes through, my friend owes me $30! I was so close to owing him $30 when CP3 nearly went to the Lakers.

[Lamrock]

That's a good fucking deal for New Orleans, considering Paul's knees.

[[Q]]

That's a good fucking deal for New Orleans, considering Paul's knees.

there's nothing wrong with his knees. he has cartilage in his knees.

Chris Paul to the Clippers! If this goes through, my friend owes me $30! I was so close to owing him $30 when CP3 nearly went to the Lakers.

well you both can thank stern for not winning 30 bucks

[shadowgrin]

That's a good fucking deal for New Orleans, considering Paul's knees.

there's nothing wrong with his knees. he has cartilage in his knees.

Or what's left of it.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2 ... _cont.html

Paul underwent surgery on the knee in early February. Noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews, unable to sew the damaged piece of cartilage, cut it away instead, one of the primary reasons Paul played in just 45 games last season, and New Orleans found itself in the draft lottery instead of the playoffs.

Knees have two meniscus cartilages between the femur and the tibia bones, which provide a cushion so the bones do not grind together.

Because Paul’s torn meniscus could not be repaired by knitting it back together and the tear was sliced away, there’s the prospect of less cushioning cartilage between the bones, making it possible for some bone-on-bone wear and tear in the knee.

Portland’s Brandon Roy recently underwent surgery on both knees because of that issue. Microfracture surgery is sometimes an option for athletes who’ve had cartilage removal.

No wonder Celtics fans are not enthusiastic about the Paul-Rondo trade.

[rise]

Can't believe this trade got nixed too. This is getting ridiculous.

[Nick]

A weak draft? This is supposed to be the strongest one since 03

that's a bold statement there. do you work for draftexpress or nbadraft.net? hehe...

i don't follow the college game much anymore. i saw a few games from the ACC-big ten challenge. i enjoyed watching Duke get destroyed by Ohio state.

but yeah- what is this assessment based on? the college season is barely underway and the "experts" are already predicting greatness??!!

It's pretty common knowledge. The 2012 draft has had big expectations even since the 2011 draft. With players like Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones deciding to skip the 2011 draft and stay in school (probably due to lockout fears), and other studs like Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Jared Sullinger, Jeremy Lamb, Quincy Miller, Austin Rivers (just to name a few) also in the draft, it may actually be even better than 2003.

2003 was more top-heavy than 2012 with superstars like James, Wade, Melo, Bosh, and Darko Milicic... but it's the number of quality players in the 2012 that has people drooling... probably the deepest draft i've seen... and it'll probably only get deeper as the college season continues on and reveals some more talent. If you're a rebuilding team, you want a lottery pick or 2 this year of all years for sure.

Basically, 2012 is the fruit of the "you must play at least 1 year in college" rule.

[rise]

This is the reason I want the Bobcats to tank the season.

[Patr1ck]

Well that was quick. Paul to the Clippers is a no-go. The Hornets wanted Eric Gordon along with Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, and the pick.

[RedPhazon8]

I heard the reason the deal was shut down was because of high asking price, well I have no idea what Jordan was thinking accepting that GS deal. The Clippers are in the middle of pretty much giving him a spot at C by giving Kaman to the Hornets, I know it's "business", but why screw around with a franchise like that? If he wants to stay with Griffin, he shouldn't be trying to get more money with the risk of them saying "no thanks".

[Patr1ck]

DeAndre Jordan is staying in LA. They matched his offer and picked up with winning bid on Chauncey Billups. Hello playoffs!

[The X]

A weak draft? This is supposed to be the strongest one since 03

Sorry, was tired when I wrote that. I meant to say strong draft.

Nick's right though, it's deep but probably not a franchise player at number 1 but we shall see.

[J@3]

A weak draft? This is supposed to be the strongest one since 03

that's a bold statement there. do you work for draftexpress or nbadraft.net? hehe...

i don't follow the college game much anymore. i saw a few games from the ACC-big ten challenge. i enjoyed watching Duke get destroyed by Ohio state.

but yeah- what is this assessment based on? the college season is barely underway and the "experts" are already predicting greatness??!!

It's pretty common knowledge. The 2012 draft has had big expectations even since the 2011 draft. With players like Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones deciding to skip the 2011 draft and stay in school (probably due to lockout fears), and other studs like Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Jared Sullinger, Jeremy Lamb, Quincy Miller, Austin Rivers (just to name a few) also in the draft, it may actually be even better than 2003.

2003 was more top-heavy than 2012 with superstars like James, Wade, Melo, Bosh, and Darko Milicic... but it's the number of quality players in the 2012 that has people drooling... probably the deepest draft i've seen... and it'll probably only get deeper as the college season continues on and reveals some more talent. If you're a rebuilding team, you want a lottery pick or 2 this year of all years for sure.

Basically, 2012 is the fruit of the "you must play at least 1 year in college" rule.

+1

[air gordon]

It's pretty common knowledge. The 2012 draft has had big expectations even since the 2011 draft. With players like Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones deciding to skip the 2011 draft and stay in school (probably due to lockout fears), and other studs like Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Jared Sullinger, Jeremy Lamb, Quincy Miller, Austin Rivers (just to name a few) also in the draft, it may actually be even better than 2003.

2003 was more top-heavy than 2012 with superstars like James, Wade, Melo, Bosh, and Darko Milicic... but it's the number of quality players in the 2012 that has people drooling... probably the deepest draft i've seen... and it'll probably only get deeper as the college season continues on and reveals some more talent. If you're a rebuilding team, you want a lottery pick or 2 this year of all years for sure.

Basically, 2012 is the fruit of the "you must play at least 1 year in college" rule.

reading the certainty in your post makes this even more interesting. i haven't heard this much hype for a draft class this early since.. hell i don't know. Not even when Duncan stayed for an extra year at Wake.

Were any of these guys members of the All-American team last year? 2nd?

[Nick]

It's pretty common knowledge. The 2012 draft has had big expectations even since the 2011 draft. With players like Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones deciding to skip the 2011 draft and stay in school (probably due to lockout fears), and other studs like Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Jared Sullinger, Jeremy Lamb, Quincy Miller, Austin Rivers (just to name a few) also in the draft, it may actually be even better than 2003.

2003 was more top-heavy than 2012 with superstars like James, Wade, Melo, Bosh, and Darko Milicic... but it's the number of quality players in the 2012 that has people drooling... probably the deepest draft i've seen... and it'll probably only get deeper as the college season continues on and reveals some more talent. If you're a rebuilding team, you want a lottery pick or 2 this year of all years for sure.

Basically, 2012 is the fruit of the "you must play at least 1 year in college" rule.

reading the certainty in your post makes this even more interesting. i haven't heard this much hype for a draft class this early since.. hell i don't know. Not even when Duncan stayed for an extra year at Wake.

Were any of these guys members of the All-American team last year? 2nd?

2012 isn't that hyped. I would say 2003 was much more hyped because of LeBron and Melo. Even 2007 was more hyped with Oden and Durant. 2012 isn't that hyped because it doesn't really have a clearcut 1 or 2 players (although you could possibly consider Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond as the top 2?). The 2012 draft just has hardcore basketball fans excited in general. (doesn't have media hype yet)

As for All-american team, i'll assume you mean for college and not the mcdonalds high school thing (me = silly aussie). Nobody except Jared Sullinger made the all-american team last season because most of them are freshmen (davis, drummond, lamb, rivers, miller), or were freshmen last season.

[J@3]

A lot of people, draft "experts" and the like were saying this years draft was going to be strong before the last one even happened, then a few of the top guys from the last draft pulled out and entered this one which makes it even stronger. The only downside is that because of the depth of this draft some of those guys might stay in college to avoid being caught in the crowd.

[The X]

Nah, I think depth won't cause many to avoid the draft. Everybody will be jumping in left, right & centre. It'll be stocked. Funny thing is teams will likely be able to get as good a player at late teens in 2012 as you could at say mid-lottery in 2011 draft.

[air gordon]

2012 isn't that hyped. I would say 2003 was much more hyped because of LeBron and Melo. Even 2007 was more hyped with Oden and Durant. 2012 isn't that hyped because it doesn't really have a clearcut 1 or 2 players (although you could possibly consider Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond as the top 2?). The 2012 draft just has hardcore basketball fans excited in general. (doesn't have media hype yet)

-1 (lol)
so are you backing off your statement?? haha. seriously- this era of social media- everything is hyped. once ESpn started televising LBJ's high school games that blew the lid off. NBA coverage on the draft goes overkill on whatever story it it can grab but that's around pre-draft workouts and what not. the season has barely started and "it's common knowledge" that this draft class is so beastly. if that isn't over hyped, i don't know what it is.

you know- i haven't heard one bulls fan say "oh- we should hold on to that Charlotte 1st round pick. we don't want to miss out on steve perry or Harrison Ford."

As for All-american team, i'll assume you mean for college and not the mcdonalds high school thing (me = silly aussie). Nobody except Jared Sullinger made the all-american team last season because most of them are freshmen (davis, drummond, lamb, rivers, miller), or were freshmen last season.

yes i meant college all american teams. i should have been more specific...
earlier you said..

With players like Harrison Barnes and Perry Jones deciding to skip the 2011 draft and stay in school

Freshmen make all-american teams. why weren't these studs All Americans? I'm not saying this is a prerequisite for nba glory but there's gotta be something more then just scouting reports that lead us to "common knowledge". and wasn't this last draft class viewed as pretty weak but only Sullinger made it.. on the 2nd team?

A lot of people, draft "experts" and the like were saying this years draft was going to be strong before the last one even happened, then a few of the top guys from the last draft pulled out and entered this one which makes it even stronger. The only downside is that because of the depth of this draft some of those guys might stay in college to avoid being caught in the crowd.

now that's just silly

and gents... please define "quality" players. we talking about Brian Cardinal quality? An NBA starter worthy player? All star level??? just so we are on the level...

[Mavs4Life]

The Mavs have suprised me and sorta filled the dead space with Chandler, JJ, and Butler gone, except the 5 spot. Haywood.....

[Nick]

2012 isn't that hyped. I would say 2003 was much more hyped because of LeBron and Melo. Even 2007 was more hyped with Oden and Durant. 2012 isn't that hyped because it doesn't really have a clearcut 1 or 2 players (although you could possibly consider Anthony Davis and Andre Drummond as the top 2?). The 2012 draft just has hardcore basketball fans excited in general. (doesn't have media hype yet)

-1 (lol)
so are you backing off your statement?? haha. seriously- this era of social media- everything is hyped. once ESpn started televising LBJ's high school games that blew the lid off. NBA coverage on the draft goes overkill on whatever story it it can grab but that's around pre-draft workouts and what not. the season has barely started and "it's common knowledge" that this draft class is so beastly. if that isn't over hyped, i don't know what it is.

*shrug* I don't really care about the "hype" aspect of it. 2012 is a great draft, and that's that.

and wasn't this last draft class viewed as pretty weak but only Sullinger made it.. on the 2nd team?

Sullinger made the 1st team.

[air gordon]

thanks lamroc... er i mean Nick for that gem

Speaking of next year- Dallas has positioned themselves to be a major player in next year's free agency bonanza by trading Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer for a 2nd round pick (lol). hello, Deron Williams

[rise]

Just a second round pick?

Wish they'd thrown in Dominique Jones and then tried for a first round pick.