FIBA world ranking

[Cr0ss0v3rK1ng]

Wow Australia is number 9, go us.

[Andrew]

I'll certainly take it, but how did that happen?

[deihatein]

Rank 45?

[The X]

I'll certainly take it, but how did that happen?

They swept NZ & did pretty well in Stankovic Cup. 9th is about right for them I think.

[Stress Fracture]

Rank 45?

At least we're in the upper 50.

[Dc311]

I don't think Australia should be higher than 12.And that is pushing it.14-17 yes.9th nooooo.

[Oznogrd]

I don't think Australia should be higher than 12.And that is pushing it.14-17 yes.9th nooooo.

I would love you to give a reason other than insanity or personal belief for once of blanket claims you make.

[Dc311]

Blanket claims?It is called an opinion.

But if you want an answer then fine.It is simple.Australia is no better than teams 10-14.They played in a three game championship "tournament" with a team that is no better or worst than tunisia.Put them in an 8 team tournament with teams 10-16 and i am pretty positive they would come out in sixth or seventh place.And besides,look at the stats.

So what are your blanket beliefs that they should be ranked ninth?

[Nick]

I think 9th looks about right. They are better than the teams currently listed under them.

[J@3]

Went 11-5 this year, 4 wins over China (ranked #10), a win over Serbia (ranked #8), wins over New Zealand, Croatia and Angola (18, 19, 15).

[Andrew]

Blanket claims?It is called an opinion.

But if you want an answer then fine.It is simple.Australia is no better than teams 10-14.They played in a three game championship "tournament" with a team that is no better or worst than tunisia.Put them in an 8 team tournament with teams 10-16 and i am pretty positive they would come out in sixth or seventh place.And besides,look at the stats.

So what are your blanket beliefs that they should be ranked ninth?

Nevertheless, it seems by FIBA's standards they've earned enough points to rank ninth. I'm surprised too, but there you have it.

[Alejandrov011]

Argentina #3

[Dc311]

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/p ... eArti.html

FIBA on Tuesday concluded its visit to Venezuela with the draw for the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament, to be held in Caracas from 2-8 July 2012.

During a colourful ceremony, attended by a large number of officials and dignitaries, the twelve teams, who will be playing for the last three remaining places in the Olympic Basketball Tournament, were divided into four groups of three teams.


Group A: Greece, Jordan, Puerto Rico

Group B: Lithuania, Nigeria, Venezuela

Group C: Dominican Republic, Korea, Russia

Group D: Angola, F.Y.R. of Macedonia, New Zealand

The group stages will see the 12 teams play the two other teams in their respective groups in a standard round robin format (12 games in total). The top two teams in each group progress to the Quarter-Finals as follows:

A1 v B2
B1 v A2
C1 v D2
D1 v C2

The four winning quarterfinalists qualify for the Semi-Finals:

Winner [A1 v B2] v Winner [C1 v D2]
Winner [B1 v A2] v Winner [D1 v C2]

The two winning semifinalists automatically qualify for London 2012, while the two losing semifinalists face-off for 12th and final Olympic place.

I think if the rosters are pretty much the same from this past Championship tournaments,then I am thinking that Lithuania,Greece and Russia will be going to the Olympics.Puerto Rico might give Greece a good run though.The same thing for the Dominican Republic.

[The X]

NZ's group isn't easy. To have any chance of qualifying, they've got to win the group. Sadly the best I think they'll do is 2nd in group & beaten by Russia in final 8. I know 4 years ago they got 5th in this stage but only top 3 go through.

[Stress Fracture]

NZ would have an easy time against the Koreans. Just make sure they stay home on their shooters.

[The X]

Korea won't win a game in their group so NZ won't play them unfortunately. Russia & Dom Republic will come out of Group C. I wish NZ were in that group instead of Russia

[Andrew]

NZ's group isn't easy. To have any chance of qualifying, they've got to win the group. Sadly the best I think they'll do is 2nd in group & beaten by Russia in final 8. I know 4 years ago they got 5th in this stage but only top 3 go through.

Perhaps we need to find a loophole so we can combine the Boomers and Tall Blacks, for a shot at the bronze.

[Murat]

6th. Suck it!

[The X]

NZ's group isn't easy. To have any chance of qualifying, they've got to win the group. Sadly the best I think they'll do is 2nd in group & beaten by Russia in final 8. I know 4 years ago they got 5th in this stage but only top 3 go through.

Perhaps we need to find a loophole so we can combine the Boomers and Tall Blacks, for a shot at the bronze.

You know that combining the teams would only do two things, firstly you'd have the exact same Boomers team barring the one inclusion of Tall Blacks' shooting guard Kirk Penney (Boomers need a 2-guard who can put up points so this works) & secondly you'd have a bunch of Aussies doing an awkward haka

If Boomers could add Penney & Kyrie Irving, then a shot at bronze would be much better

[Andrew]

I maintain that the Tall Blacks doing the haka is awkward. Just seems it should remain a footy thing.

[Dc311]

I forgot that i was going to post this story a while back.Well here it is.



http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/colu/p/newsid/50645/arti.html

This discussion comes up a lot around Olympic time, at the FIBA Basketball World Cup or when the zone qualifiers are being played out.

People, usually from Europe or the Americas, tell me that teams from Asia and particularly Oceania have it too easy, and that there must be a better way to sort qualification.

And in other news.Great Britain announced their list of their preliminary squad:
Kieron Achara
Ogo Adegboye
Robert Archibald
Eric Boateng
Matthew Bryan-Amaning
Dan Clark
Luol Deng
Joe Freeland
Ben Gordon
Kyle Johnson
Mike Lenzly
Andrew Lawrence
Alex Marctullio
Pops Mensah-Bonsu
Byron Mullens
Sullivan Phillips
Nate Reinking
Ryan Richards
Ovie Soko
Andrew Sullivan
Devon Van Oostrum

[The X]

Oceania's record in Olympics & World Championships speak for themselves over the last 20 year. They deserve the one guaranteed spot at Olympics.

Alternatively, I don't think it would bother us to have to play against Asia teams to qualify, same teams would still come qualify.

[Dc311]

Oceania's record in Olympics & World Championships speak for themselves over the last 20 year. They deserve the one guaranteed spot at Olympics.

True,but it is a good point to have a bit more competition for them.

[The X]

Oceania's record in Olympics & World Championships speak for themselves over the last 20 year. They deserve the one guaranteed spot at Olympics.

True,but it is a good point to have a bit more competition for them.

Australia always get matches like Stankovic Cup, which I believe they won last year. I think of Olympics they still should get the one spot. For World Champs they should get one spot & second place go into Asia repechage.

It would probably benefit New Zealand more than Australia to have the Asian & Oceania federations amalgamated.

[koberulz]

Those matches never mean anything, though, and are never played by anywhere near full squads for either team.