Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

[Nick]

I'm just putting it out there, WWE/WWF/etc is the lamest shit ever.

[Andrew]

Not as lame as taking the time to go into a thread to bash something you have absolutely no interest in whatsoever. Just putting it out there.

[Nick]

Nah, wrestling's more lame than that.

[Andrew]

Nope. Come now, this kind of adolescent trolling is beneath you.

[Nick]

Eh, i'm just playing around.

*leaves thread, bored, with hands in pockets*

[bowdown]

Wrestling currently really is the most lamest shit known to mankind. I used to watch all the time as a kid. Even my dad used to watch WWF very religiously, (He was refusing to believe that wrestling was fake till the very end) and he stopped after this ridiculously pathetic shit got put on in substitute for what it used to be. A word of advice for WWE, you cannot have a PG rated show which has to do with physical violence and storylines which include hatred for each other while it still being a good show. It takes the authenticity out of the whole experience. Atleast back in the day you could get into the storylines because it really did feel like wrestlers who had a feud hated each other. You could feel it when they talked to each other, beat each other up etc. But now this severely diluted shit does not let you immerse yourself into it because a grown man cannot relate to having hatred and feelings of physical aggression towards another man while acting the silly way the superstars do in this PG rated show.

[Andrew]

Not true. The WWF was PG in the 80s and 90s (pre-Attitude era) and WCW were under stricter guidelines yet still had a lot of success early on in the Monday Night War. The key is to push the limits of the PG rating and above all, not be too corny or contrived. If the matches are entertaining and the storylines not illogical and insulting to the audience's intelligence (well, as much as pro wrestling angles can be), being PG doesn't have to mean a subpar product. That's the problem though: the whole Mystery GM angle, Cena's character, some of the other promos by faces...it's keeping the product PG in a bad way.

Push the envelope, have stuff that appeals to the older audience without going all out raunchy, and PG can work out fine.

[bowdown]

good points. Not all PG fault perhaps like u point out. But I suppose a major put off for me.

[Andrew]

Absolutely, the way they're handling the PG rating is offputting to older audiences (and referring to the product as WWE PG is handy shorthand for the current era and approach) more often than not.

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[shadowgrin]

Eh, i'm just playing around.

*leaves thread, bored, with hands in pockets*

Stop playing with yourself young man.

[Andrew]

Randy Savage has been revealed as one of the downloadable legends for WWE '12. Perhaps a HOF nod coming next year?

[JaoSming]

Aside from some questionable swerves and decisions.......this is why I have lost interest in WWE

http://blip.tv/wrestle-wrestle/wwe-in-5-seconds-5743277

[Andrew]

Yeah, they're really going overboard with it.

[deihatein]

Cena teaming with The Rock might be the perfect time to turn Cena. I hope I see that tomorrow.

[Andrew]

It'd be great and he's inevitably going to be the heel in his match with Cena anyway, so it would make a lot of sense. As such, it's probably not going to happen.

I understand not wanting to change his character because of the merchandise sales, but at the same time that's forgetting that the nWo sold the most merchandise early on in that angle despite being the heels and made a stale Hulk Hogan relevant again. If Vince would prefer an example that's closer to home, he'd do well to consider that both Stone Cold and The Rock moved merchandise as heels and their early heel runs ultimately helped shape their insanely popular face runs.

[koberulz]

Aside from some questionable swerves and decisions.......this is why I have lost interest in WWE

http://blip.tv/wrestle-wrestle/wwe-in-5-seconds-5743277

Holy shit. It's like they're trying to make up for the past 20 years of being 10 years behind the rest of the world all at once.

Looks like I managed to get out at the right time.

[JaoSming]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/245301- ... ng-twitter

While it's apparent WWE is going through a bit of a Twitter craze lately, all of the Twitter talk this past Monday night on WWE Raw was The Rock's own doing, and not something that he was told to do by WWE.

According to a recent report in The Wrestling Globe Newsletter, Vince McMahon is completely obsessed with Twitter as of late. The report claims McMahon has joked about getting his own account and joining Twitter, or "Twittertainment" as The Rock would say. The jokes are convincing enough that some backstage within WWE are starting to take his remarks seriously, thinking that the Chairman of the Board may actually join Twitter sometime in the future.

One WWE source who was around McMahon when he was first introduced to text messaging thinks the idea of him getting on the microblogging scene is "pretty damn scary."

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/245327- ... on-twitter

WWE decided to run a last-minute Twitter angle (no joke) where Alberto Del Rio's announcer Ricardo Rodriguez sees who he believes to be the regular WWE ring announcer Justin Roberts backstage and chokes him out. Apparently, Rodriguez's motivation is to be the only announcer for his man tonight at Survivor Series.

Long story short, after choking the man out, the real Justin Roberts come onto the scene and asks Rodriguez what he's doing. We come to find out that Rodriguez actually choked out referee John Cone.

http://pwinsider.com/article/63564/want ... t.html?p=1

If you wanted to know how crazy the Twitter references were last night, Michael Mols sent the following:
I actually counted the Twitter references last night. Now, What constituted a twitter reference here are the following:

-Any mention from commentators of tweets, twitter, hashtags or wrestlers' Twitter names.
-The Twitter names on the titantron graphics identifying wrestlers.
-Onscreen graphics during matches
What wasn't counted because I was, well, lazy are wrestlers' tweeting backstage or during the show and commentators saying "tweet" and "Twitter" in the same sentence. In that instance, it was counted as one reference as opposed to two. However, if there was an on-screen graphic and the commentator said something about twitter as that graphic was showing, I counted it as two references.

Now, remember that the show was about 170 minutes long. The number of twitter references?

47

That equates to someone mentioning Twitter every 3 minutes and 36 seconds over he course of a show that fans paid for.

In comparison, they mentioned Facebook three times and Michael Cole said "Vintage" twice.

More importantly

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Ass, Shit, Weed, Rock is back

[[Q]]

he'd do well to consider that both Stone Cold and The Rock moved merchandise as heels and their early heel runs ultimately helped shape their insanely popular face runs.

and even more recently, CM Punk went from feuding with Rey Mysterio and leading the Nexus to having John Cena "respect" him and winning the title

[deihatein]

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EDIT: Is The Rock really back Jao?

[Andrew]

and even more recently, CM Punk went from feuding with Rey Mysterio and leading the Nexus to having John Cena "respect" him and winning the title

Punk's turn was handled very well, another fine example of riding and responding to the crowd reaction. Sometimes shocking turns are effective but if the crowd's not fully into it, they don't go so well. Stone Cold's heel run following Wrestlemania X7 is a good example, in my opinion. It works better when the turn is more organic, coming because of the general crowd response. That way, you're giving the crowd what they want out of a particular character, to cheer or boo them. The reaction Cena is getting at the moment is just begging for a heel turn.

I've heard conflicting reports about Survivor Series, some say it was an average show at best while others really enjoyed it. I think Rock and Cena vs Awesome Truth is something to check out at least, so I'll be doing that at the earliest possible convenience. Nice to see Punk get the strap again, too. I also want to see Big Show's elbow drop off the top rope, though booking another indecisive finish wasn't a good move for that angle, especially with a major belt involved.

[deihatein]

I wish Mark Henry's reign last longer.

[Andrew]

He's still the champ.

[[Q]]

Ziggler vs Morrison was a good match, interesting finish to the divas match, i skipped through the 2nd half of the team barret/team orton match (legit sin cara knee injury), skipped the big show/henry match, only to skip back to watch the elbow drop, punk/ADR was ok (Punk with his own personal ring announcer haha), rock match was cool, but it did seem like they took it easy on him. he started, cleared the ring, and cena was getting beat up for the whole match with rock watching from the apron. if you could skip to the rock parts, i would recommend it.

also, is The Rock a diva?

[Andrew]

Strong words from Punk. It's possible some of it's in-character but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a shoot, Punk is certainly outspoken. Then again, I've read that backstage he's not that unlike his self-righteous heel character, so his words should probably be taken with a grain of salt just like everyone else.

Howard Finkel's appearance to introduce Punk was cool. It's just a shame Cole ruined the moment somewhat, as he so often does. It's bewildering that Vince doesn't realise how awful he is, that the heat he gets isn't good heat and there's no reason to celebrate or reward his lousy announcing.