Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:35 am
benji wrote:Lamrock wrote:Surprising view was yours that humans are basically good.
I don't believe this. I think humans are selfish and that this results in enough humans acting in a good manner out of guilt or personal gain.
In some cases, yes, they do need to be forced. I'm not in favor of a Paul23 nanny society but if people aren't held accountable, then they'll probably end up causing harm that could have been prevented.
In other words, you'll murder people until enough act in the "right" manner. You claim you're "not in favor of a nanny" state but accept that "ends justify the means" and that people "need to be forced."
What happens when the resources for all our cool shit runs out?
We adapt.
Why don't you seem to care about or believe in global warming/climate change?
Because it has yet to present a falsifiable theory?
Answer this question for example: What's the proper global temperature?
Second question: If man is affecting the climate unintentionally, why should man further affect the climate but intentionally
Should people born into wealth be entitled to emit shit tons of carbon for their private jet that is really everybody's (and I'm not just talking about humans)?
Why shouldn't they?
You call them "blackholes". I mean just taking care of each other.
Again, another thing that needs to be defined.
Institutions we already have but are constantly cutting like education (this one is dodgy because I know the funds are often misappropriated and the stats don't back it up but who doesn't want a more educated and skilled populace (don't answer that)),
We spend more on education than any populace in the history of the planet. We spend gobs more than a half century ago. Where's the progress?
social security (this one's different because there's no reason to cut it)
How about the fact it's a fucking hybrid pyramid/ponzi scheme that steals from the minority poor and gives to the rich?
Believe it or not, the poor aren't all lazy drug addicts. It is a rigged game but at least with that safety net, the American dream could be (and maybe even was, thanks to our favorite president) theoretically doable for all who are willing to work for it.
Doesn't justify theft, and especially doesn't justify the disaster of a system that exists today. We can easily provide a better life for the impoverished but it doesn't offer up the graft and political power the system we have does.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:50 am
Lamrock wrote:btw, cyanide, we are already so far in debt, but it's not like it'll be called in any time soon. We've always had a debt. It does eventually need to be cut, but it shouldn't be a focus right now.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:00 am
Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:30 am
Lamrock wrote:we can solve the problem after we fix the economy.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:59 am
Lamrock wrote:It's a arbitrary thing we can print more of. I know it's not really more money because of inflation, but still
Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:24 am
Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:07 am
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:18 pm
Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:01 am
Lamrock wrote:Do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anybody else. I don't want an extreme nanny society where your personal choices and individual liberties are infringed upon.
You don't like moderates, but I think moderation is the best way to do things.
Would you kill people to save the world?
"No, I won't cut down on smoking! If I get cancer, I'll just adapt!"
A theory that almost every scientist believes?
The way it is now.
Because it's becoming an actual problem but it's preventable. Why don't we just solve our problems instead of adapting to them?
I don't know, but is that "gobs more" adjusted for inflation?
That's not even true. While the tax itself is regressive, the benefit system isn't, as it gives the poor a higher percentage of their income back.
While it is similar to a ponzi scheme, it remains to be seen whether it actually is
because you don't know what the payout is going to be. It'll probably be shitty, but it could end up being higher than what you paid into.
And why would graft and political power be lost by providing a better life for the impoverished?
We've always had a debt.
Lamrock wrote:It is unlimited and infinite in a sense. It's a arbitrary thing we can print more of. I know it's not really more money because of inflation, but still.
More than that though, we can solve the problem after we fix the economy.
Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:06 pm
Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:40 am
Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:59 am
Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:34 am
Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:06 pm
Occupy Portland protesters became enraged when Pizza Schmizza ran out of breadsticks to accompany their entree order. They threatened to assault employees and vandalize the restaurant.”
A police spokesman told TSG that the incident Sunday evening involved a man and woman who became upset when they were told that the pizzeria had temporarily run out of breadsticks and that they would have to wait 15-20 minutes for a new batch. The customers, cops noted, told a Pizza Schmizza employee, “Your job is bullshit, you know you work for a big corporation.”
When asked to leave, the male customer threatened "to come back with a group of people when the restaurant closes,” police noted.
The breadsticks in question, according to the Pizza Schmizza web site, are “dipsticks hand made from our very own pizza dough.” The oven-baked delicacies (seen above) are served with either marinara, ranch, or Alfredo dipping sauce.
Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:41 am
Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:50 am
Lamrock wrote:I'll be back, but it got to the point where my points were getting indefensible.
Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:56 pm
Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:
The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.
“Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached - is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.
This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they’re spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.
Wake up, pond scum. America is at war against a ruthless enemy.
Maybe, between bouts of self-pity and all the other tasty tidbits of narcissism you’ve been served up in your sheltered, comfy little worlds, you’ve heard terms like al-Qaeda and Islamicism.
And this enemy of mine — not of yours, apparently - must be getting a dark chuckle, if not an outright horselaugh - out of your vain, childish, self-destructive spectacle.
In the name of decency, go home to your parents, you losers. Go back to your mommas’ basements and play with your Lords Of Warcraft.
Or better yet, enlist for the real thing. Maybe our military could whip some of you into shape.
They might not let you babies keep your iPhones, though. Try to soldier on.
Schmucks.
FM
Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:16 pm
Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:40 am
Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:18 am
Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:26 pm
Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:28 pm
Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:30 pm
Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:20 pm
Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:30 pm