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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Cruzerr on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:03 am

Marcelo f*cking rules, no question. I would prefer Cissokho.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:54 pm

Thierry • wrote:Fuck him. I'd prefer him in a Liverpool jersey 1,000 times. Everyone says "I want to win titles", but they mean "I want more money". :x

Well, it is their livelihood.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 am

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Reds agree Adam deal

Liverpool Football Club today announced they have reached agreement with Blackpool for the transfer of Charlie Adam.
The player will now travel to Merseyside for a medical and to discuss personal terms.

Guess it's officially happening now. Really hope this doesn't mean Meireles or Aquilani are leaving. :(

Sell Poulsen instead!!! :cheeky:
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby kibaxx7 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:20 am

shadowgrin wrote:Well, it is their livelihood.


Of course it is... but you've been with the same club for eight years, and this manager has thought you everything you know about football (Clichy's own words). If I were him, I'd surrender some money and stay, help the club win something for the first time in six seasons.

There's rumors of Nasri going to Man City too. Hopefully not, or I'll have a heart attack...
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:45 pm

Thierry • wrote:Of course it is... but you've been with the same club for eight years, and this manager has thought you everything you know about football (Clichy's own words). If I were him, I'd surrender some money and stay, help the club win something for the first time in six seasons.

But you are not him so your point is irrelevant.
People also grow up and move on. Just look at parents and their kids.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:20 pm

The point is that he is going from a team that has been incredibly successful over the years and has been around the top of the league for the past decade or so, to a team whose greatest achievement up until recently was winning the league cup 25 years ago. Just because they can offer him twice the money.

He would rather sit on the bench behind Kolarov at City and earn £90,000 p/w than earn £58,000 p/w and be first choice at Arsenal, the club that gave him his big opportunity in the game. Maybe he'd be playing in the french second division right now if it wasn't for Arsene Wenger.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:36 pm

Phil89 wrote:The point is that he is going from a team that has been incredibly successful over the years and has been around the top of the league for the past decade or so, to a team whose greatest achievement up until recently was winning the league cup 25 years ago. Just because they can offer him twice the money.

He would rather sit on the bench behind Kolarov at City and earn £90,000 p/w than earn £58,000 p/w and be first choice at Arsenal, the club that gave him his big opportunity in the game. Maybe he'd be playing in the french second division right now if it wasn't for Arsene Wenger.

shadowgrin wrote:Well, it is their livelihood.

It's not like the fans have financed personally his development. Any personal matters between him and Wenger should stay between them or the people that were directly involved.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:16 pm

Yes, it is their livelihood. But he was getting paid more in a week than a lot of people earn in a year. He wasn't exactly going to soup kitchens.

Man City won't be in europe in a couple of years anyway (even if they finish in the top 4). There is no way they will qualify for the financial fair play rules.
Either will Chelsea for that matter. They lost £60m last year, before spending £17m on Ramires in August and £73m on Torres and David Luiz in January.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:23 pm

Phil89 wrote:Yes, it is their livelihood. But he was getting paid more in a week than a lot of people earn in a year. He wasn't exactly going to soup kitchens.

Faulty comparison. At least compare the money he's earning to another pro-football player and not regular working joes or those that work in soup kitchens to gauge if he did the right thing bolting for the money.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby kibaxx7 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:01 am

Copa America: Argentina - Colombia, one of the worst football games I've ever witnessed (from my country's point of view).

Messi even had a complete play where he was just standing there and didn't move a single muscle. Colombia missed a shot just below the goal and one with an open goal. Our goalkeeper was the man of the match. The crowd asked for Maradona to return. Just terrible.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Cruzerr on Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:08 am

C.Ronaldo is better than Messi.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:37 pm

Cruzerr wrote:C.Ronaldo is better than Messi.

At diving and sulking maybe.

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City sell stadium name for record £150m

Manchester City will today announce the richest stadium naming rights deal in English football history - worth £150million.

City have struck the extraordinary deal with their shirt sponsors Etihad, to rename the City of Manchester Stadium the Etihad Airways stadium from next season.

Etihad, the Abu Dhabi-based airline which already pays £2.3million a year to have its name emblazoned on City's shirts, have signed up for the naming rights for 15 years.

The deal is understood to be worth around £10m a year and is a significant step towards City complying with UEFA's imminent introduction of financial fair play rules.

City owner Sheikh Mansour has spent £1billion since buying the club in September 2008 and the club's exorbitant wage bill, combined with their huge outlay on transfers, made precarious their potential to comply with UEFA's new rulings.

As such, the City hierarchy have been working on ways to increase the club's revenue to meet the strict new regulations laid down by European football's governing body or face the prospect of being exiled from the Champions League.

City's last published accounts show it lost £121.3m, a 31 per cent increase on the previous year, with wages like the £200,000-a-week paid to stars like Carlos Tevez and Yaya Toure a major factor in the rise, as well as their transfer market spending.

Under UEFA's new financial fair play rules, clubs must not spend more money than they earn. More specifically, they must not spend more money on wages and other expenses than they earn in ticket, media and commercial income in any one of the monitoring periods laid down by UEFA.

The lucrative naming rights deal eclipses that of Arsenal, who signed a £100m agreement over 15 years with Emirates when in 2006 they moved from Highbury to their new state-of-the-art 60,000-seater stadium.

Although Arsenal's naming rights deal was also over 15 years, the figure of £100m also included an eight-year shirt sponsorship deal worth around £6m a year. City's stadium naming rights deal, it is understood, is wholly independent of Etihad's shirt sponsorship, making it by far the most expensive deal of its kind.

City moved to the Eastlands stadium from Maine Road in 2003 and have been paying Manchester City Council between £2m-3m a year since, with a £1billion planned redevelopment of the ground - expanding its capacity from 46,000 to 60,000 - already under way.

UEFA is certain to subject to close scrutiny City's latest agreement with Etihad, to ensure it meets its regulations and is not simply a cosy deal whereby wealthy club owners such as Sheikh Mansour can use existing sponsorship deals to inflate the balance sheets of their clubs to comply with financial fair play.

What is the point of having financial 'fair play' rules if an owner can just pay whatever he wants through sponsorship with one of his own companies?
I'm not against selling stadium naming rights, but this is a bit of a joke.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Cruzerr on Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:43 pm

Phil89 wrote:
Cruzerr wrote:C.Ronaldo is better than Messi.

At diving and sulking maybe.


In my eyes, Ronaldo has been more of a threat than Messi. He scores more from different places of the pitch. I aint saying that Messi is a bad player, I love his attitude(the way he wants to stay up after every tackle) but I prefer Ronaldo.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Houndy on Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:12 am

Is anyone watching the Women's World Cup? I am, and that USA comeback was amazing. I thought Marta's goal ended it.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby kibaxx7 on Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:10 am

Houndy wrote:Is anyone watching the Women's World Cup? I am, and that USA comeback was amazing. I thought Marta's goal ended it.


Yep:

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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:34 pm

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Were FIFA trialling blind referees?

Good thing we won the game anyway. Though they just lost to Sweden in the quarter finals. (N)
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Houndy on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:30 am

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Were FIFA trialling blind referees?

Good thing we won the game anyway. Though they just lost to Sweden in the quarter finals. (N)

That was hilarious
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Houndy on Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:30 am

Phil89 wrote:
Thierry • wrote:
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Were FIFA trialling blind referees?

Good thing we won the game anyway. Though they just lost to Sweden in the quarter finals. (N)

That was hilarious
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:55 am

You can say that again.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Phil89 on Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:09 pm

Stage one of operation deadwood clearout is complete. Now onto Poulsen. :cool:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-n ... -leicester
Konchesky sold to Leicester

Liverpool have today finalised a deal to sell Paul Konchesky to Leicester City.

The 30-year-old, who played 18 games for the Reds, will now join the Championship outfit for pre-season.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby [Q] on Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:44 pm

GOiNG TO SEE REAL MADRID IN THREE DAYS its gonna be fucking intense!!!
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:03 pm

Don't forget Q...
Phil89 wrote:Throw a bottle of something at Ronaldo if he dives.
Jae wrote:You're gonna need a lot of bottles
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Houndy on Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:45 am

Big game today, USA vs France. Let's see if the US can come out with a win.
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby Houndy on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:23 am

Wow, USA wins 3-1. Off to the Final....

We got HOPE!
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Re: General Football/Soccer Talk

Postby [Q] on Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:35 am

shadowgrin wrote:Don't forget Q...
Phil89 wrote:Throw a bottle of something at Ronaldo if he dives.
Jae wrote:You're gonna need a lot of bottles

Nah I'll be rooting for him. i wont be rooting for Beckham, if he even plays
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