Will there be a lockout?

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Will there be a lockout?

Postby rayallen20 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:10 pm

Just to be sure, 'cause there are sites that say yes and there are sites that say no. Will there be a lockout?
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby benji on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:11 pm

Yes.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby rayallen20 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:13 pm

Aww man... Then I guess i'm going back to watching the WWE...
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby J@3 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:15 pm

There's not much difference between the two these days
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby benji on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:16 pm

Are the WWE actors unionized and able to strike?
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby koberulz on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:18 pm

Jae wrote:There's not much difference between the two these days

Of course there is. The NBA has more wrestling in it.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby [Q] on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:19 pm

no i bet vince mcmahon considers them "independent contractors" so he doesn't have to take responsibility when they get hurt.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby benji on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:20 pm

There's also the fact they have little skills that can't be replaced overnight.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby rayallen20 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:20 pm

How long does the lockout usually take? Will there be games played even just a little or no games at all? I still am kind of interested in watching the WWE though.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby benji on Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:29 pm

Lockout lasts until the players and owners agree to play again.

This period of time could range from a few days to a year or more.

The players will cave at some point because they're idiots and thus unionized, but the time before they cave depends on how long the veterans and members in power are willing to starve the idiot newbies in order to agree to a deal that further harms rookies and enriches veterans and owners.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby rayallen20 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:11 pm

benji wrote:Lockout lasts until the players and owners agree to play again.

This period of time could range from a few days to a year or more.

The players will cave at some point because they're idiots and thus unionized, but the time before they cave depends on how long the veterans and members in power are willing to starve the idiot newbies in order to agree to a deal that further harms rookies and enriches veterans and owners.

Could there be a chance that they'd agree on a deal and the 2011-2012 season will play on?

Qballer wrote:no i bet vince mcmahon considers them "independent contractors" so he doesn't have to take responsibility when they get hurt.
Just like the Owen Hart accident. :(
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby koberulz on Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:37 pm

Qballer wrote:no i bet vince mcmahon considers them "independent contractors" so he doesn't have to take responsibility when they get hurt.

He does. Isn't that fairly common knowledge?
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:03 am

rayallen20 wrote:Could there be a chance that they'd agree on a deal and the 2011-2012 season will play on?


There's always a chance but right now, it doesn't look that likely. It seems that a lockout is looming, whether or not any games or indeed the whole season will be lost isn't 100% certain just yet but it seems that's a distinct possibility.

benji wrote:Are the WWE actors unionized and able to strike?


A wrestlers' union on Vince McMahon's watch? More than a couple of wrestlers have been wished well in their future endeavours over the years for even suggesting the idea.
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby Patr1ck on Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:35 am

So, what are the big issues? What is each side trying to get?
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Re: Will there be a lockout?

Postby J@3 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:04 am

The NBA want shorter contracts, less guaranteed money, increased age limit and whatever else. Players union want the opposite, though they'll probably bend on the age restriction because ultimately they are looking after themselves not the future generations.

I think the big sticking point is the NBA are crying poor and the players union are saying the league are making even more money so they deserve a bigger percentage of what the league makes as a result of that, or something.
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