Valor wrote:Karma for ruining Iverson's career, enough said

lol'z
Well, as the Pistons' ambassador of the forum, this situation is obviously beyond unprofessional. I don't think Kue is a HORRIBLE coach, but I do think he's over his head. With so many strong, veteran personalities on this team, I don't think it was really possible for them to ever mesh with him. It's a lose-lose situation to bring in a rookie head coach with these guys. Rip, Tay and Ben have all taken turns trying to run coaches out of town, which is why they are they way they are now. Dumars' is at fault from that point of view because he let Ben Wallace bitch and moan about Flip Saunders and he's let Rip go at Kue and Michael Curry.
It used to be Dumars' loyalty to his core that built the strange bond all the misfit Pistons had during their 2000s run, but once he made the Chauncey trade things fell apart in that loyalty department from the players point of view. As a realist, you look at trading Chauncey for Iverson's expiring as a necessary evil - the team was only going to fall into awkward, old mediocrity if you held onto the core four - but as a fan and probably player, you look at that trade as betrayal.
Obviously Rip went off the deep end after that, and for some reason Tayshaun Prince decided he was going to stop being the quiet guy and taking Rip's side on the issues.
The Philly 7 were just out of line. I'd be my apartment that Ben Wallace was legit tending to his oldest brother (who just passed Saturday), and really, I think Chris Wilcox just picked the absolute worst day to oversleep.
That leaves Stuckey, Daye, Rip, Tay and McGrady. Stuckey and Daye both have reason to dislike Kue (Stuckey's benching in the first month of the season and Daye's up-and-down playing time) but apparently last night those two were the only ones available to the media, where they apologized and manned up for missing most of the shoot-around. What do you get out of that? I don't know, but I give them the benefit of the doubt more than I do Rip, Tay and McGrady who didn't even speak to the media.
The fact that Rip, who is owed $22 million and is obviously hating life in Detroit, turned down a $16 million buy-out from Cleveland has shown me that this is far more personal grudge against the organization than anything. If he's going to verbally berate the coach, whine about not playing and blame everyone but himself, it looks like he wants to hang around and watch the entire organization burn to the ground.
Upcoming lock-out or not, the guys made quite a bit of cash in his career, if he really wanted to try to win another championship he would have taken the buy out and gone to Chicago.
I hate the whole thing. They need to get rid of everyone except Daye, Jerebko and Monroe. Even with that, you've got two small forwards who combined make a really solid starter and a starting power forward. If Dumars gets canned, he gets canned. At this point someone's gotta rebuild this from scratch. If when Gores comes in he wants to clean house completely, I won't really be against it. I think Dumars has gotten a raw deal this year considering how tied his hands have been trade-wise, but he's trying to re-mold the 2004 Pistons in a league where superstars are even more powerful than they were then.
At least picking Greg Monroe looks a helluva lot better than picking Cousins, can you imagine the drama if he was on this team?