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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:22 am

Haha, friend? You're a poster on a forum, I dont know you so no, we're not friends? Moving on since I'm done on the topic.

Good game against the Grizz, they always give LA a hard time and it was good to see them get the win. Ronnie keeping his cool was pretty nice to see too, he was glaring at the younger Gasol there for a bit but walked up to him and accepted the apology after the time out.

Bynum for Anthony going around, I can see the positives in some way I guess, he's a scorer but yeah, I dont think I've ever really been a fan of Anthony. Not to mention giving up a 23 year old big..? I'm eh about it. :(
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby air gordon on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:31 am

Thanks, jack. Good to know everything's cleared up

Imo lakers would be lucky to get that kind of value. Bynum's young but is already having durabikity issues
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:26 am

I'd stay the course if I were in Kupchak's shoes. One of the Lakers' strengths is their size up front and while a Kobe/Melo tandem is intriguing, Melo's not a strong enough defender to play the Pippen role and I don't see Kobe being the one to give up shots.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:36 pm

Andrew wrote:I'd stay the course if I were in Kupchak's shoes. One of the Lakers' strengths is their size up front and while a Kobe/Melo tandem is intriguing, Melo's not a strong enough defender to play the Pippen role and I don't see Kobe being the one to give up shots.


When considering a Bynum/Melo deal, I would look at long term re: Melo rather than short term. The Lakers would need a primary scoring option on the wing as Kobe falls off the map and Melo could give them that.

I reckon that in the short term, it might not be a perfect fit but in the long term, this could be a smart deal - esepcially if we do not need to give away Lamar and/or Artest in the process. I like Bynum and I do think he makes a difference being on the floor but his track record health-wise has not been strong.

I doubt that it will happen but if it did - Gasol is capable of playing centre and Odom has always been a great starter and underrated on the boards. (Y)
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:41 pm

Right now I'd give up Artest before Bynum, though I doubt the Nuggets would be interested in that kind of deal unless everything else falls through. Bynum himself could be that primary scoring option when Kobe starts to take a backseat, though I doubt that's happening anytime soon, certainly not soon enough to be pursuing Melo as a potential replacement.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby koberulz on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:51 pm

Not to mention that he's highly likely to sign with NY in the off-season anyway, at which point you've given away your future for nothing.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby air gordon on Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:10 am

What is the future's value? Bynum's numbers are pretty good but that injury issue is a big concern. Also gasol's numbers are actually worse efficiency wise when he and bynum are on the court
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Houndy on Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:29 am

If the Lakers get 'Melo, I'm really not sure I would do. If the Nuggets do this, call them retarted. Why trade Melo to a rival?
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:25 am

Houndy wrote:If the Lakers get 'Melo, I'm really not sure I would do. If the Nuggets do this, call them retarted. Why trade Melo to a rival?


Risk of losing Melo for nothing and at least having a young centre who could be a preenial All-Star.

The only concern I have with Bynum is that he has been hurt for most of the last 3 seasons.

Andrew wrote:Right now I'd give up Artest before Bynum, though I doubt the Nuggets would be interested in that kind of deal unless everything else falls through. Bynum himself could be that primary scoring option when Kobe starts to take a backseat, though I doubt that's happening anytime soon, certainly not soon enough to be pursuing Melo as a potential replacement.


Well, Bynum being the number 1 option is obviously Plan A. But Melo could provide an intriguing Plan B.

Yes, there is the rationale here - there's more Melos out there than Bynums so why you trading away the rarer asset? Well, after weighing up the intangibles, I think that it's a move worth taking.

Anyways, I'm not barricking for a trade as I am quite content with the current team. I am just saying that there are positives in a Melo deal that is unlikely to happen.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:35 pm

Shannon Brown Story

Hopefully Shannon is ok off-the-court and also glad to see him playing well. He did sort of drop off after that great first month to the season. We need him to be shooting well come playoffs especially if Fish/Blake keep shooting poorly.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:23 pm

Why do the Lakers always lose in Charlotte? :(
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby dare on Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:25 pm

Sit wrote:Why do the Lakers always lose in Charlotte? :(

Same question here...
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby rise on Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:32 pm

Sit wrote:Why do the Lakers always lose in Charlotte? :(

Because we have a history of winning against better teams and losing to the shitty ones. We beat the LeBron-led Cavs all three times last year and now we've won 8 of our last 10 against LA. (Y) Must be something about defense...
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Re: Lakers Thread

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Bruce on Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:08 am

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Sit wrote:Why do the Lakers always lose in Charlotte? :(

Because we have a history of winning against better teams and losing to the shitty ones. We beat the LeBron-led Cavs all three times last year and now we've won 8 of our last 10 against LA. (Y) Must be something about defense...


But I think they should really try to win the next games against San Antonio and Miami just to boost their confidence come playoff time.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:54 am

Charlotte is much too athletic a team for LA, they underestimate their ability to hit outside shots & play off of Wallace who burns them with outside shots, then when they close in on him he drives them to the basket.

Augistin plays the pick & roll & Bynum prefers not to defend it a la Shaq. Henderson just went off on Kobe pretty much trying to prove a point of sorts. Bad loss.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby air gordon on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:55 pm

lakers are under .500 (5-7) against the top teams in each conference
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:43 pm

I can accept a loss against the Magic and I called the loss against the Bobcats. But a loss to the Cavs - are you kidding me?

I'm not panicking but losing to the Cavs is uncalled for. (N)
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby The X on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 pm

Sit wrote:I can accept a loss against the Magic and I called the loss against the Bobcats. But a loss to the Cavs - are you kidding me?

I'm not panicking but losing to the Cavs is uncalled for. (N)

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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:41 am

Uncalled for? Very much so.

Were they thorougly outplayed? Very, very much so.

We know teams with a PG are able to rape LA and that's basically what Cleveland did. They out ran them, they out hustled them and LA never looked older. :shake:

Oh well, on to the All-Star festivities & to the second half of the season.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby rise on Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:28 am

Sit wrote:I'm not panicking but losing to the Cavs is uncalled for. (N)
You should be panicking. If this was earlier in the season, I think people would be calling for Lakers missing the playoffs altogether. They've definitely taken a big down turn over the last couple months. I don't expect them any higher than 4th seed in west.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:32 am

Haha, why would there be a need for panicking when this is basically what LA has done for the past 2-3 seasons?

People are still over reacting, as usual.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Fresh8 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:27 am

Jackal wrote:Haha, why would there be a need for panicking when this is basically what LA has done for the past 2-3 seasons?

People are still over reacting, as usual.


Correct.

The real season starts in June. And the Lakers will be there.

And they will win. Quote me in June. (Y)
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Jackal on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:32 am

The Lakers are basically the opposite of the Mavericks.
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Re: Lakers Thread

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:47 am

Sit wrote:The real season starts in June. And the Lakers will be there.

And they will win. Quote me in June. (Y)


Careful there, you were also pretty adamant they'd win 70 in the early weeks of the season. ;)

It's not time for the Lakers to panic, just time for them to get their act together sooner rather than later.
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