2010 U.S. Election: The Most Important in Our Lifetime, Ever

[benji]

Facts
The Aussies had a thread for their little yard brawl that decides who is king of the prison until the next uprising, so America, a real nation (Fact: The Aussies have never won a Super Bowl) deserves to have a thread for the greatest battle for the fate of the planet ever.

The stakes in this election are higher than ever, everything depends on next Tuesday and this is the kind of battle never before seen. As one of the two greatest Presidents of this century Barack Obama put it this war is between hope and fear:

"It's up to you to remember that this election is a choice," Obama said in a recent speech. "It's a choice between the past and the future; a choice between hope and fear; a choice between falling backwards and moving forwards. And I don't know about you, but I want to move forward. I don't want to go backward."

And going backwards is exactly what could happen. Just look at what happened the last time the Republican Party had control of Congress for three straight terms (1995-2000): Taxes were slashed, millions were thrown off welfare, multiple foreign nations were being bombed, terrorists were attacking the U.S. all over the globe, American troops were also deployed all over the globe, national debt was rising exponentially, the government was trying to prop up a bubble economy, silly culture war battles were dominating the media instead of talking about the coming crises. I don't think we want to go back to that. And Bill Clinton told us that's exactly what would happen:

"Ladies and gentlemen, this election, all over America, represents a choice, a choice between hope and fear . . . between whether we're going forward or we're going to go back. I think I know the answer to that. You want to keep going forward."

Predictions
Senate: 50 Hope - 2 Independent - 48 Fear
Chance Harry Reid retains Majority Leader: 45%

House: 238 Fear - 197 Hope
Chance Nancy Pelosi retains Speaker: 0%
Chance John Boehner becomes Speaker: 75%

Governors: 31 Fear - 1 Independent (Chafee probably, Tancredo maybe but he'd count as Fear anyway) - 18 Hope
Chance Barack Obama remains President until the next election: 100%
Chance Rick Snyder is the next overseer of the evacuation from the ruins of Michigan: 99.6%

The Election in Videos

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Don't Forget!
Vote third party in the highest ballot race, in almost all states it determines their ballot status!

[shadowgrin]

"It's up to you to remember that this election is a choice," Obama said in a recent speech. "It's a choice between the past and the future; a choice between hope and fear; a choice between falling backwards and moving forwards. And I don't know about you, but I want to move forward. I don't want to go backward."

"Ladies and gentlemen, this election, all over America, represents a choice, a choice between hope and fear . . . between whether we're going forward or we're going to go back. I think I know the answer to that. You want to keep going forward."

Seems like Obama is taking advice from Clinton.
That forward-backward thing reminds me of a Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episode, the one with the two aliens as Bill Clinton and Bob Dole.

[puttincomputers]

Mr. President we conservatives don't want your keys. We don't want your Brand New Lemon! We want Thomas Jefferson's keys.

its funny in one breath someone can say that conservatives were the problem and then quote the left leaning president that held office over that time. oh and before you say that i am a bush lover i can tell you i am not. in fact i believe bush was no better than clinton.... there i said it.

[benji]

We want Thomas Jefferson's keys.

Slavery? Ignoring the Constitution? Out of wedlock children?

[puttincomputers]

The northerners put black people at the front of the lines in the civil war not the southerners.
out of wedlock children? Clinton anyone?
Ignoring the constitution? what version of history are you reading? he wrote the constitution.

[shadowgrin]

We want Thomas Jefferson's keys.

Out of wedlock children?

It's true what they say, once you go black you never go back. TJ proved that a long time ago.

Ignoring the constitution? what version of history are you reading? he wrote the constitution.

Did it have something to do with Marbury vs. Madison?

[puttincomputers]

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,' if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's gonna be harder and that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2."

can someone tell me who said this?

[benji]

The northerners put black people at the front of the lines in the civil war not the southerners.

Okay? Jefferson still held slaves and profited from slavery.

Ignoring the constitution? what version of history are you reading? he wrote the constitution.

lol, no he didn't.

And there is pretty much no way he had any Constitutional authority to make the Louisiana Purchase the way he did.

[J@3]

Is Vince McMahon running for president? I haven't been paying attention to that situation

[puttincomputers]

yal may want to brush up on your history of Marbury vs. Madison and the scholarly opinions of the case.

1. It was not Jefferson who lost to the Supreme Court, he actually won from what i could figure out after a brief reading up on the subject.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison
2. Justice Marshall should have recused himself on the grounds that he was still acting Secretary of State at the time the commissions were to be delivered and it was his brother, James Marshall, who was charged with delivering a number of the commissions.

[benji]

From the primaries:

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This is the complete idiot she's going to lose to (despite this and despite that he said he served in Vietnam like twenty times even though he never left the country):

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yal may want to brush up on your history of Marbury vs. Madison and the scholarly opinions of the case.

1. It was not Jefferson who lost to the Supreme Court, he actually won from what i could figure out after a brief reading up on the subject.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison
2. Justice Marshall should have recused himself on the grounds that he was still acting Secretary of State at the time the commissions were to be delivered and it was his brother, James Marshall, who was charged with delivering a number of the commissions.

I don't need to brush up on anything regarding Marbury because, as I already told you above, I wasn't talking about it.

Jefferson didn't lose or win, he wasn't even a party in the case. And it's irrelevant but Jefferson despised the decision because he was correct in that it would create an oligarchical Court that would defacto run the nation.

[shadowgrin]

yal may want to brush up on your history of Marbury vs. Madison and the scholarly opinions of the case.

1. It was not Jefferson who lost to the Supreme Court, he actually won from what i could figure out after a brief reading up on the subject.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison
2. Justice Marshall should have recused himself on the grounds that he was still acting Secretary of State at the time the commissions were to be delivered and it was his brother, James Marshall, who was charged with delivering a number of the commissions.

The hell with your specific history, I'm no Yankee. I only read your shite when I'm bored.

[benji]

Here's some more facts from not-Nobel Prize winning, Enron advising, columnist Paul Krugman:

This is going to be terrible. In fact, future historians will probably look back at the 2010 election as a catastrophe for America, one that condemned the nation to years of political chaos and economic weakness.
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So if the elections go as expected next week, here’s my advice: Be afraid. Be very afraid.

If you don't vote for Democrats it will be a catastrophe, so vote for hope over fear!

[puttincomputers]

A vote for democrats is a vote for a fear-monger in my book.
I should say one more thing.
I am big fan of Glenn beck and Peter Schiff.
neither have been wrong that i know of.

I was listening to Beck when he warned about the housing and stock market collapse. I believed him. I warned my cousin not to go into the stock market. My cousin did not believe me. A few weeks later the crash came. He lost over half of his portfolios worth.

did you know that obama worked for the organization that put a knife to the banks throats and told them they must make risky loans to the "underprivileged"? He not only worked for them but he was actually the main lawyer for them.

Don't believe me? go do some research.

[shadowgrin]

How about giving us some links instead of going into a rant and telling us to do our research just to prove you right?

[benji]

I'll do it after you admit I was reading the correct version of history where Jefferson didn't write the Constitution.

And Obama was never the "main lawyer" (aka Solicitor General) of the federal government.

[koberulz]

"...a choice between falling backwards and moving forwards...move forward."

Oh fuck off with the moving forward already.

A vote for democrats is a vote for a fear-monger in my book.

Please explain how this is only true of the democrats, and not every politician ever.

[benji]

Only after you explain why you're so bad at quotes.

And don't listen to puttin, he's one of those fear mongers which is why he's not going to vote for hope and moving forward and thus vote straight-ticket Democrat. Which is one reason we need to get rid of this stupid voting system, it's a market failure.

[[Q]]

wow election day is tuesday? although i like the idea of having a former ebay ceo as governor, she is republican & rich as fuck so i will not vote for her.

yes on prop 19

[koberulz]

Only after you explain why you're so bad at quotes.

Bad at what?

[benji]

she is republican & rich as fuck so i will not vote for her.

Good, only Democrats should ever be voted for. Especially if they're rich. And double especially if they've spent their entire lives sacrificing to run for different levels of office. This proves their commitment to making sure that hope triumphs forever over fear.

What you really need to make sure to vote for are Props 26 and 27 that way the legislature can properly ensure that only the right people vote for them, not some silly "objective" manner that refuses to stop the Asians from ruining the state, and that they can take the money from those who don't deserve it without any foolish limits that prevent perfection of the state though expert guidance. And vote against Prop 23 or else the entire planet will die in a fireball of horror within months. Also, voting for Prop 19 is moving backwards and choosing fear over a hopeful future where we can finally abolish the use of things that provide no health benefits and where states do not act against the will of the nation. We cannot be a proper community if we divide geographically just for some criminals desire to do something illegal.

It's really sad that people don't realize we're on the precipice of the end of the world with this election, and yet a majority of morons out there are going to go the polls and vote for the end of the world just to encourage their masturbatory fantasies from Revelations and screw the Darkies. You'd think a sane society would stop letting these types run the country or from even having a say. One of these days we'll finally drop this anarchist ideal the Christians promote and join the rest of the civilized world where the government just gets things done and the people learn to like it. Hopefully, Paul23 will be of age so he can guide us into the end of scarcity.

wow election day is tuesday?

Yeah, November 9th.

[Oznogrd]

God seriously fuck south carolina. Alvin Greene is dumb as a wall and the other guy wants to punish people for being gay. Senator choices suck

Governor wise i have choice of some crazy republican whore (allegedly) or some dem that is pro-life and pro-guns...

Woot being 40 years behind other parts of the country

Once again, i'm choosing to say fuck voting since i cant stand any choice.

[benji]

Wait, you can vote for Alvin Greene? DO IT FOR MEEEEEE. PLEASE. (If you vote that is. Also, don't forget THIRD PARTIES AT TOP OF THE BALLOT!)

You don't even have to admit you did it to others, but it'll give me pride I was able to finally use my internet contacts to proxy vote for someone worthwhile.

You aren't even throwing your vote away since Greene is going to lose by like 50 points anyway. The fact nobody wants to vote for him just proves voters are morons.

Just look at that website: http://www.alvingreeneforussenator.com/

Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley is sorta hott admittedly, who cares if she has affairs like 80+% of male politicians do, but it's only when the women candidates (or da fags) do it that anyone seems to think it disqualifies them. Not saying that's reason to vote for her, just not a reason to not vote for her. I probably would not vote for her but I might have helped her have an affair.

And when did pro-life and pro-guns become bad.

This post actually got too serious so...vote for science over DURR GOD MADE TEH DINOSAURS THEN THE PURTIANS HUNTED THEM AWAY! (I've ruined this by not being able to find the column I read the other day saying this election was the last stand for science against religion. So you'll have to make do with President John Kerry who served in Vietnam.)

"It's absurd. We've lost our minds," said a clearly exasperated Kerry. "We're in a period of know-nothingism in the country, where truth and science and facts don't weigh in. It's all short-order, lowest common denominator, cheap-seat politics."

[benji]

As an aside if anyone else wants me to discover nutjob candidates they can vote for in my name if they don't care for who they vote for in a race, you know I'll totally do so if the info is available.

This applies to those disgusting foreigners and their elections too.


Going on at least five terms now.

EXPERIENCE COUNTS!

[puttincomputers]

Only after you explain why you're so bad at quotes.

And don't listen to puttin, he's one of those fear mongers which is why he's not going to vote for hope and moving forward and thus vote straight-ticket Democrat. Which is one reason we need to get rid of this stupid voting system, it's a market failure.

where did you get the idea that i would vote straight democrat?

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,' if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's gonna be harder and that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2."



can someone tell me who said this?

come on guys its not that hard to find the audio of the person saying this.