Sugar: The Bitter Truth

[puttincomputers]

I think this is very good message for those of us who are sports and fitness minded
the video is an hour and a half long!

Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Series: UCSF Mini Medical School for the Public [7/2009] [Health and Medicine] [Show ID: 16717]

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[benji]

What is it with loons and hour long videos of speeches they think everyone should watch?

Thankfully someone summarized it!
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/2 ... -alarmism/
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/02/1 ... sm-debate/

[puttincomputers]

What is it with loons and hour long videos of speeches they think everyone should watch?

Thankfully someone summarized it!
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/2 ... -alarmism/
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/02/1 ... sm-debate/

um that guy is very selective in what he attacks and misquotes him like crazy. just watch the video in its entirety. I too thought it would be boring. But i put down my mark twain Humor book to watch it.

[benji]

How about you just summarize it?

[puttincomputers]

its hard to summarize drawings of chemical interactions into words. if you dont want to watch its up to you.

[benji]

So what's the point?

[Lamrock]

Wait, Sugar's BAD for you?!

[shadowgrin]

Steve Nash approves of this thread.

its hard to summarize drawings of chemical interactions into words.

No it's not. Just think of analogies to it.

[puttincomputers]

how about this. he proves by chemical interaction diagrams that High Fructose Corn Syrup is just as bad for you as Alcohol.

[benji]

So moderate doses are beneficial but overconsumption can lead to health issues?

SHOCKING DISCOVERY!

[koberulz]

The other thing that should be pointed out here is that the obesity epidemic isn't as bad as everyone says. BMI doesn't account for health, or body type, or even the amount of fat present in the body.

[Laxation]

just watch the video in its entirety.

At least try to put a decent argument forward... its a fucking 90min video, people cant be bothered with that kind of commitment these days

[J@3]

LOL @ "just watch the video in its entirety". Are you going to give me that hour and a half back?

[puttincomputers]

So moderate doses are beneficial but overconsumption can lead to health issues?

SHOCKING DISCOVERY!

he actually shows that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you in any amount unless you are highly active.

[Oznogrd]

So moderate doses are beneficial but overconsumption can lead to health issues?

SHOCKING DISCOVERY!

he actually shows that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you in any amount unless you are highly active.

Hmm...so as long as i work out i dont have to worry about it. Surprise, exercise is still healthy...do i really need a 90 minute vid to tell me that?

[NovU]

So what does the video say in general? That sugar is bad so you better work out regularly?

[shadowgrin]

It doesn't matter what the video contains...

I shall not respond any further, as I have satisfied your criteria for objectivity and experimental and mechanistic rigor, and I have better things to do than engage in this continued puerile one-upsmanship. I’ll let the public decide who they wish to believe. And thus far, based on the 230,000 (510,000 as of now) YouTube hits and numerous blogs extolling this line of reasoning, I’ll take my chances.

Robert Lustig, M.D.

The more YouTube hits you have the more credible you are.

[Its_asdf]

Wait, Sugar's BAD for you?!

In other shocking news, scientists discover that exercise can actually HELP you lead a healthy lifestyle.

More on these shocking relevations after this commercial break.

[benji]

he actually shows that high fructose corn syrup is bad for you in any amount unless you are highly active.

So then who was lying when you said HFCS was as bad for you as alcohol, you or him?

You do realize that there is no possible way HFCS is literally "bad for you in any amount" considering I'm aware of zero cases of anyone dropping dead from having well, any amount. It's not fucking strychnine.

But hey, you can't get famous saying, "yeah, this stuff is fine to consume, moderately, don't panic, like everything though overconsumption can potentially lead to problems down the road." You have to scream "THEY ARE KILLING YOU WITH THIS! AND YOU ARE ADDICTED! WE NEED TO BAN EVERYTHING THAT COULD CAUSE YOU LAZIES TO GET FAT DOWN THE ROAD! DA CORPORATTIONNNSSSSSS!!!!!!!"[/Paul23] to get any attention.

Oh, and I thought this thread was about sugar, not HFCS. Or are you nuts finally accepting there's minuscule difference between the two in fructose content, and the primary difference between them is that one gets subsidized out the wazoo because we hate trading with brown people and other foreigners as that might cause food prices to drop?

All the food scare crap lets people blame the latest bogeyman rather than figuring out how to construct a proper diet on their own. And the government doesn't help with its absurd food pyramid and supporting all those irrational scares.

[Andrew]

The more YouTube hits you have the more credible you are.

And you're being complimented on blogs as well. That plus YouTube hits equals definitive proof.

[puttincomputers]

[Andrew]

Good rebuttal.

[benji]

More like yet another concession.

[shadowgrin]

Sugar: The Bitter Truth

The music definitely fits.

[Paul23]

At least someone is telling the truth, high fructose corn syrup is part of the plot to destroy the American diet and force everyone into slavery by insurance companies. We need to ban this and regulate diets to make sure these crimes cannot be perpetrated on the American people. These corporations should not be allowed to kill the American people for profits. Instead we need to make sure people are consuming healthy diets full of grains and dairy and low in fats and other meats. If we need to levy massive taxes on these horrific foods then so be it. If the government is not working to save the American people what is the point?