Thoughts on Illuminati

[Andrew]

"Now, let's all get drunk and play ping pong!"

Boring folk? Hardly.

As for real secret societies, I doubt they're running the world (well, maybe a secret council of corrupt robot elders). I'm sure they have members who are in the entertainment industry and government and those people are able to pull some strings because their membership allows them to be well-connected. Beyond that, I'd agree with Ben's description of big fancy chairs and cigars. Perhaps I'm not well read enough on the subject, but all of that seems about as ominous as a college fraternity.

[koberulz]

The Illuminati are referenced 100% of the time as being behind everything and controlling the world.

If you're making the claim that some dudes created their own little club and they sit around in big fancy chairs to talk about chicks and smoke cigars. Then who the fuck gives a shit? Why would you want any thoughts about that?

God doesn't control shit, or are you claiming the Bible lies about the concept of free will?

Saw your edit:

Why are the Free Masons so secretive? What are they hiding?

Nothing, they're boring as hell. I've known a number of them. It's a lame ass social club like the zillions of others.

Mark 13:22 "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect."
Ephesians 6:12 states "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." Which means wickedness in high places. That time could be now.

What does the Bible have to do with rational and logical thought?

[atlwarrior]

If you believe in it then it is rational and logical.

[shadowgrin]

I believe that you're an idiot. Does that make my belief of your brain capacity rational and logical?

[atlwarrior]

Ur mother.

[benji]

If you believe in it then it is rational and logical.

No, no it's not.

[Paul23]

It's obvious that secret banker societies probably helmed by Jews are causing events throughout the world. Anyone who denies this is probably part of the Zionist plot as this has been proven in many movies and by multiple agencies. Just don't expect the government or any large organization to agree, as they've already been taken over by the Zionist agenda.

[atlwarrior]

Wtf? Why you gotta go and point the finger at the Jews?

[Paul23]

They are behind everything, they organize and gather to manage the money of normal people into the hands of Zionists which they can use against the innocent Arabs and Muslims in their Holocaust.

They caused the currently recession so that they could gather more cash into one location. Their goal is to acquire all the money in the world and have been doing it for centuries. There are lots of websites where you can find these facts. A simple Google search will prove this.

[shadowgrin]

At least Paul23 makes more sense with his opinions than atlwarya9

[atlwarrior]

Shadowgrin go drink a gallon of battery acid.

[Oznogrd]

It's obvious that secret banker societies probably helmed by Jews are causing events throughout the world. Anyone who denies this is probably part of the Zionist plot as this has been proven in many movies and by multiple agencies.

Yes because movies are so accurate

And i need to get in on this jew society thing...hmm...any hints? I could use some power

[Patr1ck]

What benji said earlier is right on. Humans just aren't that smart. If they were, why would they cause bad things to happen? With their incredible intellect, they could improve everything. Most people have good hearts.

[atlwarrior]

Honestly to worship the Devil and keep it a secret doesnt require that much intellect. People in college do it all the time.

[NovU]

Illuminati come in all angles and from many nations, not just Israel, OPEC, international bankers, USA, so on. They are individuals/families so called "top elites" of the world that have enough monetary/influential power to make almost anything possible. Yes, I do believe they exist, but not sure what their true intentions(or final goal) are, but one of them I think is one world government that has been the on-going long term plan from decades before. It's such a scary thought that most people want to rather not know deeper, and human beings always have been naive enough to be controlled too. It wouldn't be surprising if they did exist and remain hidden all along. After all, once in power, nobody wants to let it go but protect or build up on it. It's in human genes to be wanting more.

Illuminati stuffs are nothing new to me, but it was one of the more intriguing ideas/stuffs for sure. Already many of videos out there have been deleted/banned. Here's a link to one from the youtube. If I am not wrong, the series goes up to more than 80 with quite a few banned by youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdiG4OC48LY

[shadowgrin]

Shadowgrin go drink a gallon of battery acid.

I think you already did.
You haven't exactly given some details or instances to at least give credence to your guess or hypothesis.

I mean there is some evidence but not enough yet to start making accusations

Paul23 gave details on what he thinks about his crackpottery. Even Zanshadow gave one.
All you gave out was a bible verse.



And you still haven't answered my question:

If you believe in it then it is rational and logical.

I believe that you're an idiot. Does that make my belief of your brain capacity rational and logical?

[NovU]

Paul23 gave details on what he thinks about his crackpottery. Even Zanshadow gave one.

Hey, I'm not like asking you to believe it. At least watch/read some related stuff on it as it's never bad to be aware. If you ask me why I care. Because you don't.

[shadowgrin]

My point wasn't whether I believe it or not or the others being crackpots.
It's about atlwarya9 saying things he doesn't even give an explanation to why he thinks so that way, other than to quote the bible.

[benji]

Illuminati come in all angles and from many nations, not just Israel, OPEC, international bankers, USA, so on. They are individuals/families so called "top elites" of the world that have enough monetary/influential power to make almost anything possible. Yes, I do believe they exist, but not sure what their true intentions(or final goal) are, but one of them I think is one world government that has been the on-going long term plan from decades before. It's such a scary thought that most people want to rather not know deeper, and human beings always have been naive enough to be controlled too. It wouldn't be surprising if they did exist and remain hidden all along. After all, once in power, nobody wants to let it go but protect or build up on it. It's in human genes to be wanting more.

To put it shorter: They exist, but you don't know what they're doing or what their goal is, but they must exist and must be secret because they must exist and must be able to do anything.

Already many of videos out there have been deleted/banned. Here's a link to one from the youtube. If I am not wrong, the series goes up to more than 80 with quite a few banned by youtube.

Don't link to YouTube it's part of the secret plot! Oh nooooo, they have my IP now!!!!

Hey, I'm not like asking you to believe it. At least watch/read some related stuff on it as it's never bad to be aware.

But it is bad to waste your time ferreting out a conspiracy that doesn't exist for the express purpose of abrogating any responsibility in your life.

Honestly to worship the Devil and keep it a secret doesnt require that much intellect. People in college do it all the time.

And who cares? Being a Satanist is not the same thing as being an Illuminati pulling all the strings. There's nothing wrong with someone being a Satanist.

[el badman]

It's obvious that secret banker societies probably helmed by Jews are causing events throughout the world.

Mel agrees.

[atlwarrior]

I bet he does. That prick.

[NovU]

Perhaps, benji. Perhaps, the world is a beautiful place without any conspiracy. Like Vietnam war was really Henry Kissinger’s master plan to help out the people at all cost, and invading Iraq was to really free the people and take out the mass destructive weapons while massacres that were going on Africa were all bogus stories to ignore for good. I was suggesting what ifs, or to extent, is it really bad to be questioning. Most people aren’t going to care anyways as they’re always going to be content with what bigger media feeds/brainwashes them with and as long as their lives remain unaffected, no harm done. Would it be too surprising, if there were some who were benefiting from all that.

[benji]

You really beat the hell out of that strawman.

[atlwarrior]

George W. Bush knew of 9/11. He said he saw the first plane crash into the twin towers the day it happened on live televison while speaking to a group of students. Wtf? The first plane crash was not even televised on 9/11. It didnt surface until the day after. And even something about the plane crashes were strange. There's a possibility bombs were planted in the twin towers. There were multiple explosions after the two plane crashes. Wtf? Plane crashes do not cause multiple explosions. There were multiple reports of suspicious devices by the police. Some reported by the fire fighters. What were the cause of those other explosions. Is it coincidental the two towers collapsed the exact same way? These things dont add up. These things could be false but still like Zanshadow said you should read into it. Dont be so quick to reject. Dont be so close minded.

[benji]

Somehow I knew trutherism was going to turn up.

It's not close-minded to not believe in things that aren't true.

It's not close-minded to think that someone misspeaking or lying is somehow proof of your claim.

It's not close-minded to understand physics.

I assume of course that you have no alternative explanation, just questions about the official story.