Thoughts on Illuminati

[atlwarrior]

A lot of people have been going crazy over this topic. I dont really get too much into it but my ears are still open to it. Do you think there are Secret Societies within our Entertainment industries and governments. I mean there is some evidence but not enough yet to start making accusations. Post links or videos if thats necessary to get your point across.

[shadowgrin]

Do you think there are Secret Societies within our Entertainment industries and governments.

Of course, they exist.

[benji]

No.

And I won't expound because I prefer to have all the incredulous responses for me to respond to than for me to shut down the topic by vaporizing the stupidity and logic fails from my secret lair on the moon from the very start.

[atlwarrior]

Do you think there are Secret Societies within our Entertainment industries and governments.

Of course, they exist.

Soo... Do you think by any chance these Secret Societies are involved with Satanism?

[shadowgrin]

So what if they did? Is it any different from an organization that's involved in any form of religion?

[benji]

Soo... Do you think by any chance these Secret Societies are involved with Satanism?

No, OPEC is not a "secret society" and aren't motivated by Satanism, they're simply a cartel and they act like a cartel should act.

There are no secret Satanist societies than run the world and make everything bad happen, as much as you may wish to deny it humans just aren't that smart.

[shadowgrin]

No, OPEC is not a "secret society" and aren't motivated by Satanism, they're simply a cartel and they act like a cartel should act.

There are no secret Satanist societies than run the world and make everything bad happen, as much as you may wish to deny it humans just aren't that smart.

How do you know benji? You're acting kinda suspicious. Maybe you're one of them and trying to confuse us and derail the efforts to expose you and your evil cabal.

[benji]

I would never do that. You can trust me.

[atlwarrior]

Soo... Do you think by any chance these Secret Societies are involved with Satanism?

No, OPEC is not a "secret society" and aren't motivated by Satanism, they're simply a cartel and they act like a cartel should act.

There are no secret Satanist societies than run the world and make everything bad happen, as much as you may wish to deny it humans just aren't that smart.

Trust me Id much rather believe this instead of believing that there are.

[shadowgrin]

I would never do that. You can trust me.

Give us proof of your purity.

[benji]

Trust me Id much rather believe this instead of believing that there are.

So why don't you believe the more rational and logical thing over the scary unfalsifiable belief where the only proof is the original claim? It's pretty simple to do.

[atlwarrior]

I actually agreed with you. Im sorry if u misunderstood me but i was responding to when you said "human arent that smart." I still believe we should keep our minds open to things like this tho. We dont have proof to say there arent any out there bcuz thats why theyre called secret societies.

[benji]

Which makes it unfalsifiable, the only proof or evidence is the original claim.

Or even worse, the absence of evidence is becoming the evidence. "There must be secret societies controlling the world because there's no evidence of them!"

[puttincomputers]

to believe there is no secret society you must have your head in the sand.

[benji]

To believe there is some kind of secret society controlling the world and making everything happen you must reject rationality and logic. And it remains as unfalsifiable as the claim that there is a God or Cat Lord doing the same thing.

There is literally zero evidence in favor for the claim, and the very nature of the claim itself prevents any evidence being used against it.

[Gundy]

to believe there is a secret society you must have your head up your.....

[atlwarrior]

To believe there is some kind of secret society controlling the world and making everything happen you must reject rationality and logic. And it remains as unfalsifiable as the claim that there is a God or Cat Lord doing the same thing.

There is literally zero evidence in favor for the claim, and the very nature of the claim itself prevents any evidence being used against it.

how do you know?

[shadowgrin]

to believe there is no secret society you must have your head in the sand.

Proof or ban of a secret society.

[benji]

how do you know?

You're the one making the claim, you'll have to provide evidence there is such a thing. Hell, I'd even settle just for a few things this "secret society" has supposedly done.

But I know there can't be a "secret society that causes everything" for a simple reason. Humans are human.

Now, about SkyNet...

[atlwarrior]

how do you know?

You're the one making the claim, you'll have to provide evidence there is such a thing. Hell, I'd even settle just for a few things this "secret society" has supposedly done.

But I know there can't be a "secret society that causes everything" for a simple reason. Humans are human.

Now, about SkyNet...

There's not enough evidence to prove there's not. We already have murderers, prostitutes, pedophiles (priest that molest young boys) racist, thieves, liars and whole hell of a lot of other things so why not? Can you identify a murderer just by looking at him? No you cant. Sometimes everything is not what it appears to be. And when you actually listen to some of the things these celebrities and politicians say it makes you wonder what they really mean. Like everytime you hear a politic say a "New World Order" what do they mean by that? Why are the Free Masons so secretive? What are they hiding?

[benji]

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[puttincomputers]

did i say the secret society controls the world? NO! Try they might, but only God will control the world.

[atlwarrior]

I never said that either idk where he got that from.

[benji]

The Illuminati are referenced 100% of the time as being behind everything and controlling the world.

If you're making the claim that some dudes created their own little club and they sit around in big fancy chairs to talk about chicks and smoke cigars. Then who the fuck gives a shit? Why would you want any thoughts about that?

God doesn't control shit, or are you claiming the Bible lies about the concept of free will?

Saw your edit:

Why are the Free Masons so secretive? What are they hiding?

Nothing, they're boring as hell. I've known a number of them. It's a lame ass social club like the zillions of others.

[atlwarrior]

The Illuminati are referenced 100% of the time as being behind everything and controlling the world.

If you're making the claim that some dudes created their own little club and they sit around in big fancy chairs to talk about chicks and smoke cigars. Then who the fuck gives a shit? Why would you want any thoughts about that?

God doesn't control shit, or are you claiming the Bible lies about the concept of free will?

Saw your edit:

Why are the Free Masons so secretive? What are they hiding?

Nothing, they're boring as hell. I've known a number of them. It's a lame ass social club like the zillions of others.

Mark 13:22 "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect."
Ephesians 6:12 states "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." Which means wickedness in high places. That time could be now.