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Postby nuno on Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:29 pm

Why doesn´t the NLSC rosters come with the team strategies for each team? I found a set of rosters at nbalive.org that has the strategies for EACH team by default. And it works GREAT, it gives much more rrealism to the game. So, is it possible that the next set of rosters has the strategies too? They are great and would be fantastic with the strategies!
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:02 pm

Moved from General Issues.

If it adds more realism, then I'm all for it. I'll need help compiling a list of each team's plays though. If someone is willing to help out there, I'm willing to implement it.
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strategies for each team

Postby nuno on Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:59 pm

Ok, here they are. I copied them from the sticky on this forum "Sliders for reallistic..."

Credict ***KDRE***

Team Offensive Sets

Motion offense:

New Jersy Nets
Dallas Mavericks
Sacramento Kings
New Orleans Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers

Flex

Atlanta Hawks
Denver Nuggets
San Antonio Spurs
Indiana Pacers

1-4 High

Detroit Pistons
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks
Orlando Magic
Phoenix Suns
Seattle Supersonics
Utah Jazz

Double High

Houston Rockets

Secondary Break

Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
Portland Trailblazers
Miami Heat

Box

Golden State Warriors
NY Knicks
Washington Wizards

Triangle

Chicago Bulls
Los Angeles Lakers

Stagger

Minnesota Timberwolves
Memphis Grizzlies
Los Angeles Clippers

They seem very accurate to me, but we can discuss this and when the new rosters are out we will have a much better (and realistic)gameplay!

Thanks Andrew! I knew that if it means more realism to the game you were in to it!
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:46 am

Thanks nuno! I wasn't aware a listing had been posted already. :oops: But I'll try to put that info to good use. (Y)
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Postby Millennium on Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:01 pm

Credict ***KDRE***

Team Offensive Sets

Motion offense:

New Jersey Nets
Dallas Mavericks
Sacramento Kings
New Orleans Hornets
Cleveland Cavaliers

Flex

Atlanta Hawks
Denver Nuggets
San Antonio Spurs
Indiana Pacers

1-4 High

Detroit Pistons
Boston Celtics
Milwaukee Bucks
Orlando Magic
Phoenix Suns
Seattle Supersonics
Utah Jazz

Double High

Houston Rockets

Secondary Break

Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
Portland Trailblazers
Miami Heat

Box

Golden State Warriors
NY Knicks
Washington Wizards

Triangle

Chicago Bulls
Los Angeles Lakers

Stagger

Minnesota Timberwolves
Memphis Grizzlies
Los Angeles Clippers


I know AT LEAST the Wizard's set being listed wrong in here. Wizards run Eddie Jordan's motion.

Also, Andrew, if you are updating the .dbf files, I would use the play sets with the ID numbers in the 980-990 range, as they are the 'random play' sets, where the CPU picks a random play from the set everytime down the court (in case you didn't know). I did this to a roster update I have, and it works great.

Also, when you edit the .dbf file, start the game and go to Team Strategy, it will still say 'Dynamic'. This is just a cosmetic thing, the teams will still run their plays that you selected.

All of this information is based on if you didn't know this before. If you did, sorry for the repost of info.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:20 pm

No no, it's all helpful. (Y) Thanks, I appreciate the assistance. :)
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Postby Calvenn on Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:47 pm

Andrew, have you been able to incorporate this wonderful plan yet? This would be tremendous on your part :D. I really like what you've done with the latest set, easily the best update yet. I'm sure the other community members will agree that this adjustment will be excellent!
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Postby Calvenn on Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:53 pm

Please disregard previous post. I see that you've made the change already :shock: . Very nice indeed!!
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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:33 am

Thanks! :) I'm glad it worked out as planned. :wink:
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Postby Calvenn on Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:54 pm

On second thought and after playing the game more extensively, I've come to the conclusion that certain teams like the Lakers no longer play to their strengths. Oneil and Bryant are no longer as aggressive as before and D.George launches excessive 3's!!

In essence, the offense is no longer establshed starting with Oneil. Has anyone noticed this? To doublecheck, I purposely played a few games with the old roster patch and the new. The changes were quite evident!

As a suggestion for the time being, Andrew do you feel you can create 2 roster patches in the future? 1 with the new gameplay incorporated and the other without? I like what the new roster presents, however the game no longer presents that much of a challenge not to mention teamplay inaccurasies such as the one described above.

Please try to consider this option. 1000 thanks for all your efforts, I truly commend you for improving the gameplay dramatically :shock:
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Postby Calvenn on Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:08 pm

Correction. I just realized that I was in fact comparing against Ben's roster and not the older nlsc patch. My observation is that the actual teams primary offensive plays shows up within the strategy section during the game using this particular roster. I'm also assuming the same team offensive sets were used for both roster patches, but something tells me that the NLSC roster has this implemented improperly?

I certainly don't see the sets within the game when using this roster. Definately like the NLSC player ratings much better, not to mention it contains the most recent lineup update. For example, it's easier to block shots with Ben's roster and for some odd reason that roster only allows for default shoes, eg I installed a shoe update for Lebron but it only shows up with the NLSC roster. So, the dilemma is quite obvious. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

Andrew, is there a way you can work with Ben to discover how to apply these offensive sets? I truly feel its best if we all work towards a common cause. Doesn't make much sense to have so much division within the community. This would be an excellent collaboration!

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Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:13 pm

I'm a little confused. Are you saying the offensive sets are not working properly in the new version of the NLSC roster, or are you saying that they are? Your last post seems to suggest both, so I'm not exactly sure what you want me to fix.

Although the CPU team's Playbook will be set to Dynamic, they should run the appropriate play. I have set the primary offensive play to select a random set for each play, so the CPU should vary the offense depending on who's on the floor and where they are on the floor.
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Postby Calvenn on Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:55 am

Andrew, kindly disregard my request for now, I'll perform a more exhaustive and conclusive research in the future and let you know of my results. Btw, I was referring to the offensive sets POSSIBLY not working fine with the new roster. The thing here is that I've only noticed this result with select teams such as the Lakers and Rockets. So as not to act prematurely I'll dedicate more time to my observations. If others could help with the testing that would be outstanding :idea:

Anyhow, I appreciate your responsiveness to our various questions and suggestions :D
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Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:25 pm

It's no problem. :) Please keep me informed of the results, and feel free to suggest improvements and report problems.
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