Tony Parker's Future

[atlwarrior]

Benji he has been playing through knee and thigh injuries and still somehow managed to be the second leading scorer on the team probably not at a efficient rate but he still did it. Beasley has never been known as a stopper or defender. Hes always been a scorer in hs and college. It even took Andrew Bogut a couple yrs to adjust

[benji]

He jacked shots at a rate that would have led 11 teams. Grievously injured or not, he managed to play 78 games.

The rate wasn't just inefficient, it was terrible. Sure it wasn't Jonny Flynn, Chris Kaman, Monta Ellis team-killing terrible, but it was Stephen Jackson, Brandon Jennings, Andray Blatche and J.R. Smith "hey, somebody on the team has to waste possessions!" terrible.

Beasley has never been known as a stopper or defender.

Oh, so he shouldn't play defense or have it listed as "something he hasn't shown." Makes sense.

It even took Andrew Bogut a couple yrs to adjust

Okay?

At 19, a college freshmen, playing almost the same minutes (Bogut played one less):
Bogut: 12.5ppg 9.9rpg
Beasley: 26.2ppg 12.4rpg

[atlwarrior]

Im not going to argue he and those other players mentioned wastes possessions. He is still a player that could go off any given night like those players mentioned above many teams would love to have them. His issues are also maturity, adjusting to the Heats wierd style along with bad coaching. They dont use him correctly.

[benji]

those players mentioned above many teams would love to have them

Yeah, lots of teams are still run by idiots.

They dont use him correctly.

So how should he be used? And is there any way that "using Beasley correctly" doesn't involve him moving to the second string?

[atlwarrior]

Bro! You make it seem like they suck. But moving him from second string was a mistake on the Heats part. Haslem shouldve started at pf. Beasley should come off the bench as a sf and If not that atleast start him at sf. That is where he should play. Using a pf that should be playing sf doesnt work 4 every team.

[Rip32]

Michael Beasley is going to be a helluva scorer on really bad teams, that's probably his upside at this point. Like benji said, he didn't improve at all. He was the second leading scorer on a team with offensive super stars like Quentin Richardson, Joel Anthony, and Carlos Arroyo. The fact that Beasley, the definition of a tweener, couldn't use his speed advantage against bigs or his size against smaller guys shows his lack of either:

A. Desire.
B. Basketball IQ.

I don't keep up with my Miami heat basketball, so maybe Beeze-Nutz is a smart, hard-working guy who's just having some hard luck scoring on almost a quarter of his team's possessions.

man, if you don't know about heat's money, that they can spend this summer, i can tell you this: Heat has enougth money for 2 Max contracts plus for some fillers.

Yeah, that means they can re-sign Wade and fillers, then offer the Spurs a shit sandwich of Dequan Cook, James Jones, and Michael Beasley for Tony Parker and Malik Hairston.

RC Buford isn't stupid, he's going to get expiring contracts and/or valuable players back.

[NovU]

The problem is if the Heat is willing wait with patience for him to develop into a player that Heat truly needs within next 5 years or so. With Wade to re-sign and free agents to come, the Heat wants to be chasing after a championship if not contend seriously. If he wants to be part of it, it's likely his numbers will take a plunge due to the less ball usage that is to come with more stars on the team. That obviously could affect his development, and he will be even more unhappy. No doubt he has potential, but I don't think Miami is the team that can lead him to where he wants to be. In the best interest of both the team and Beasley, he has to go. Whoever picks him up, they'll be lucky, picking up 21 years old who's had 15-7 season. On the other hand, Parker has hit the wall a few years ago and should be on the downhill within next few years, so... you know where I'm getting.

[benji]

Whoever picks him up, they'll be lucky, picking up 21 years old who's had 15-7 season.

He's a 21 year old who didn't improve, at all, from his 20 year old rookie season. Kevin Durant, who is the same age went from a solid All-Star at 20 to one of the five best players in the league at 21. Carmelo Anthony at 20 was a Glenn Robinson clone who at 21 became one of the leagues dominant scorers and a legit All-Star. Chris Bosh made the same leap.

Beasley played pretty much exactly the same at age 21 as he did at age 20. (But shot worse.)

If he goes out at age 22 and yet again puts up 17-20 points with 8 rebounds and 1 assist while playing no defense, taking a bunch of crappy jumpers (due to not having an inside game or a three point shot) and continuing to pout I'd definitely not give him an extension and see if I could sucker some teams into draft picks for him.

[NovU]

Yes, benji. I try to overlook that fact since I'm Heat fan. That being downside of Beasley, I wonder how he'd do in other teams' system.

[atlwarrior]

Benji theres something called improvement . It takes some longer than others. Everybody is not quick learner like a Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans. And Beasley is not a very quick learner. So I take that into consideration. I used to know Beasley personally. He was not very smart and very immature for a person his age almost like he was a child and nothing much has changed from what i see. But I doubt Beasley will improve in other areas other than scoring He only put up big numbers like that in Kansas State because it was only him and Bill Walker. Who else was going to do it? And he has always has played lazy and has always gotten by that way. Unfortunately the NBA doesnt work that way but it is what it is. I do wish he'll play with a little more sense of urgency bc it would help him a lot more in the long run. But if it wasnt for him being so immature I wouldnt give him the benfit of the doubt.

[NovU]

It takes some longer than others. Everybody is not quick learner like a Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans.

Hope that's the case with him, or not, if he ends up in another city.

His attitude like you mentioned, isn't the best nor smart. I doubt that he'll turn out to be the player the Heat envisioned. We'll see...

[koberulz]

Benji theres something called improvement . It takes some longer than others. Everybody is not quick learner like a Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans. And Beasley is not a very quick learner. So I take that into consideration. I used to know Beasley personally. He was not very smart and very immature for a person his age almost like he was a child and nothing much has changed from what i see. But I doubt Beasley will improve in other areas other than scoring He only put up big numbers like that in Kansas State because it was only him and Bill Walker. Who else was going to do it? And he has always has played lazy and has always gotten by that way. Unfortunately the NBA doesnt work that way but it is what it is. I do wish he'll play with a little more sense of urgency bc it would help him a lot more in the long run. But if it wasnt for him being so immature I wouldnt give him the benfit of the doubt.

Are you arguing that he will improve, or that he won't? All that seems to say is that he's gone as far as he's going to go, since he's barely changed since high school and has an attitude problem likely to hamper further improvement. 'He's not better than he was in high school' doesn't mean 'he's BOUND to improve', it means 'he's probably as good as he'll ever be'.

[atlwarrior]

koberulz, Im arguing he will but he needs a coach to push him to that point and whos there to do that right now. Erik Spoelstra? Pshhh! And I Never said he had an attitude problem where did i say that? I said immature almost like a child, and hes not a quick learner and still is immature and not a quick learner. Hes always had a great attitude towards any of his coaches as far as i can remember. Especially with Coach Steve Smith at Oak Hill. You must have misinterpreted when I said immature or something.

[NovU]

May not be much, but considering how other PFs have been doing against the Celtics's frontcourt during the playoffs, Beasley didn't do that bad alongside JO the has been.

Switch the supporting cast of Miami with Celtics or Cavaliers, and it could have been a sweep for the Celtics against CLE and ORL. Wade did put up pretty crazy numbers against the Celtics as well. The loss against Celtics feel somewhat endurable now that the Celtics has been dominating ever since.

[koberulz]

koberulz, Im arguing he will but he needs a coach to push him to that point and whos there to do that right now. Erik Spoelstra? Pshhh! And I Never said he had an attitude problem where did i say that? I said immature almost like a child, and hes not a quick learner and still is immature and not a quick learner. Hes always had a great attitude towards any of his coaches as far as i can remember. Especially with Coach Steve Smith at Oak Hill. You must have misinterpreted when I said immature or something.

Being lazy and immature = attitude problem.