Lakers Thread

[Patr1ck]

E.T.

[shadowgrin]

http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/05/ ... e-hot.html

So that's that. My reaction is still the same after reading that and seeing the pics:

The hell?

[Lamrock]

[Dee.]

creepy.

[rise]

So that's that. My reaction is still the same after reading that and seeing the pics:

The hell?

My reaction is is exactly the same. Particularly after THAT picture two posts above me...

[dare]

can this happen?

[Andrew]

Sure, but it would take Bosh accepting a huge paycut when he's at his maximum earning power, or a sign-and-trade.

[NovU]

He was seen in LA's game versus OKC, and it aroused curiosity from many people. Personally, I think Bosh really wouldn't mind playing for Lakers, but then the problem would be if the Lakers want to jeopardize current core of the team. Their success in remaining two series I think will tell, if they'll want a change or not.

[shadowgrin]

He was seen in LA's game versus OKC, and it aroused curiosity from many people. Personally, I think Bosh really wouldn't mind playing for Lakers, but then the problem would be if the Lakers want to jeopardize current core of the team. Their success in remaining two series I think will tell, if they'll want a change or not.

He could be there in support of Oklahoma?
The Thunder have cap space to get Bosh.

[NovU]

I think there's a serious consideration in LA to land Bosh, which would cost Bynum + some scrub(s). With the highest payroll in the NBA, LAL is designed to win now and next couple of years. Possibility could be there that LAL ran out of patience for Bynum's development and injury.

[Andrew]

Considering they went out and acquired Artest after winning it all last year, perhaps they'd see fit to make a change if they don't have confidence in Bynum regardless of what happens the rest of the way this year. I'm not sure it's the likeliest of scenarios though, I'd say the Lakers still have enough confidence in Bynum given what he brings to the table when he's healthy.

[Bruce]

Come off season, the Lakers tends to play it safe. Unless Toronto is willing to take Bynum, Walton and all of the Lakers' draft picks for Bosh and cash. A windfall trade similar to the trade that brought Gasol to the Lakers. I think the most excitement in the Lakers off season is trying to keep Brown from getting picked up by teams who lost out in signing the marquee free agents. And of course, the most fun they will have in the off season, is counting the number of ways they can expel Vujacic back home to Slovenia.

Like what was stated before, it seems more likely to me that if he really is scouting a team, it is OKC. Since Bosh is from Texas, and have played in Toronto, he might be more comfortable playing in a mid-size or small market. but then again, who knows? After watching Bosh's YouTube channel, he might have just caught the acting bug, and dreams of becoming an actor. With LA only a being a spring board to his ultimate dream.

[Fresh8]

I wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh. I think we'd be getting worse if we did that. On paper might look good but I don't think it would work.

Plus, why try to fix something that's not broke?

[Jackal]

I wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh. I think we'd be getting worse if we did that. On paper might look good but I don't think it would work.

Plus, why try to fix something that's not broke?

This. (Well, it might work but you don't give up on a true center for a PF when you all ready have a kickass PF.)

[Bruce]

I wouldn't trade Bynum for Bosh. I think we'd be getting worse if we did that. On paper might look good but I don't think it would work.

Plus, why try to fix something that's not broke?

This. (Well, it might work but you don't give up on a true center for a PF when you all ready have a kickass PF.)

Yeah, I think keeping Bynum gives LA more dynamism as well. Right now they have all the tools to either run or play half court offense against any team, any time. Getting Bosh for Bynum will mean that Lakers will have to convert to mostly transition offense. But then, with this being an if scenario, the only other contract that would match is perhaps Gasol's, and trading Gasol for Bosh would I think would be dumb, since Gasol is highly dependable for production every night. Perhaps another scenario is to trade Odom and Walton for Bosh. But then, Bosh would have to swallow his pride and take the 6th man role. Who would ever want to go from being the man to 6th man.

[Jackal]

I wouldn't trade Lamar Odom for Bosh either.

Bosh is quite dependable in production but he isn't as skilled as Odom is. Odom is a very good facilitator so you'd be giving that up for someone who can't do that. In the triangle offense passing is of utmost importance so no, Odom stays.

If Odom was consistent in his production, he'd be a fucking rockstar. The guy is amazing, but because he's so subdued it just doesn't register to a lot of people. Lamar Odom is pointguard in a 6'10-6'11 body. The guy can pass & is extremely unselfish (something that drove me nuts when he was being groomed to be the second option) which is a rare trait in players these days. (Players that aren't point guards.)

If you start Odom chances that he gets 20+ points day in & day out isn't big but you know for sure he'll get you a ton of rebounds and will make the correct plays. The Lakers offense isn't a problem, Ron Artest is the only "weak" link, his shooting touch comes & goes. But they are better defensively this year so it's not that big of a deal.

In short: I don't see Bosh coming to LA. Not sure I'd want it either.

[NovU]

I'd like to disagree, in the defense of Bosh, but you have a strong case there due to LAL being already so close to becoming a back to back champion.

[koberulz]

What exactly do you have against versatile players, dude?

[Fresh8]

As Jackal has stated, LA doesn't need Bosh.

If we trade away Bynum, we lose our starting centre. We don't want Pau Gasol trying to play centre, he is better at the power forward spot. Much more effective and can utilise his skills.

If we trade away Odom, we lose one of the most unique players in the league. Sure he may be inconsistent but he can help the team in so many ways and that makes him invaluable to the team. When Odom is on the gun, he is a major factor for the Lakers because of his versatility. Bosh can't give the Lakers what Odom offers. As Jackal alluded to, for any other team he would be a starter... and I am actually deviating a bit from his argument because I think if Odom were a starter he'd be scoring at 18-20 a game. But without taking that into account, Odom is one of the Lakers' best rebounders as well.

All in all, Bosh coming to LA would be bad. He'd ruin the dynamics of the team and it's not just because we are on the verge of repeating.... even if we had been knocked out by the Suns, Jazz, Thunder or get beaten by the Celtics; I just do not think Bosh is a good fit at all.

[NovU]

I just like Bosh's game and what he brings to the game each and every night. I was thinking he might be a good fit in LA, but you guys are right, LA doesn't need Bosh. Also don't get me wrong, I am all for the idea "don't gamble with what's already working" and with LAL playing at highest level in the league, I really can't argue in the defense of Bosh. But in other circumstances, if you have chance to land Bosh for Bynum or Odom, it's a no brainer you go for it...

[Jackal]

Or don't. That's also an option.

Just sayin'.

[air gordon]

We don't want Pau Gasol trying to play centre, he is better at the power forward spot. Much more effective and can utilise his skills.

that's if you consider "effective" being less effective. Gasol was the starting center almost half of last year...was the starting center for almost a 3rd of this season... is the center during crunchtime. in all 3 instances his production is better "trying to play" center

[koberulz]

But in other circumstances, if you have chance to land Bosh for Bynum or Odom, it's a no brainer you go for it...

Please tell me you're not serious.

[Fresh8]

We don't want Pau Gasol trying to play centre, he is better at the power forward spot. Much more effective and can utilise his skills.

that's if you consider "effective" being less effective. Gasol was the starting center almost half of last year...was the starting center for almost a 3rd of this season... is the center during crunchtime. in all 3 instances his production is better "trying to play" center

The reason he's been playing centre in those three instances you speak of is because of Bynum being out. And if you refer to production as numbers, then his numbers are up because Bynum is out. And if you are saying that I implied that Pau can't play centre, I must rephrase myself and say that he is capable of playing there but being on the same team as Bynum, Gasol would be better off playing the power forward spot; allowing him to roam further from the hoop, play anywhere from the high to low posts and just really utilise his skills.

As someone already stated, Gasol has a strong case for being the most valuable player for the Lakers. His multi-faceted game is brilliant and in the past two seasons, his defense and rebounding have really improved too.

[air gordon]

lol it's not a mystery as to why GAsol plays center....

Gasol's fg%, efg% ft%, ability to draw fouls, PER are all higher as center... a huge indicator that GAsol FLOURISHES at the CENTER position

those stats have nothing to do w/Bynum. Gasol is a beast at Center. if anything, Gasol's efficiency should be even higher when Bynum is playing alongside him! Gasol is a nightmare defensive assignment for Centers. almost no center can guard him outside the paint. play him at PF and he'll run into those PF's with size and athleticism

play Gasol at C. trade Bynum and his ability to get injured for Bosh.