(1) Lakers Vs. (3) Suns

[Dee.]

They could always (try) to start the D-League dude they signed,he's a pretty good rebounder,he has some strength too.

[Andrew]

Its too bad they dont have Robin Lopez right now. Its better him than either of the two.

It seems they might have him back thanks to the sweep of the Spurs giving them some extra time off in between series, though it's still very much a maybe.

[atlwarrior]

I'm a hater so Suns in 5

I really am a hater Suns in 5.

[Rip32]

Bro the Suns are not going to matchup Channing Frye against Bynum if they know what's good for them. Theyre most likely going to start Jarron Collins like theyve been doing. Its too bad they dont have Robin Lopez right now. Its better him than either of the two.

Are they just not going to play Channing Frye then? Jarron Collins plays at most 10 mins a game so that offensive mismatch of Frye spreading the floor and opening up room down low for Nash and Amare is too good to pass up.

It seems they might have him back thanks to the sweep of the Spurs giving them some extra time off in between series, though it's still very much a maybe.

Totally forgot about him. If he can come in and bang around for a little bit that takes Collins out of the picture (which is a great thing) and really gives the Suns something to help Amare down low. I think if he can give them 15-20 mins a night that would be HUGE for them.

[dare]

Nash-Fisher ... Fisher may have an easier time on offense, but Nash is going to run him ragged I think.

Did you see what Fisher did to Williams, Now I don't think Fisher will draw many offensive fouls on Nash but I also don't think that Nash will ragged Fisher.

Gasol-Amare ... I don't know what to make of this. Pau is a really solid defender, but Amare has such a powerful/diverse game that I don't know if he's going to be slowed down. I don't think Gasol will be slowed on the other side either though.

Gasol stopped a more powerful Dwight in the Finals I'm sure he can handle Amare.

[Rip32]

Did you see what Fisher did to Williams, Now I don't think Fisher will draw many offensive fouls on Nash but I also don't think that Nash will ragged Fisher.

Deron Williams is a totally different player than Steve Nash. Fisher is a liability versus smaller, quicker, PGs but against bigger guys he can body them up with his size. Deron is one of those bigger PGs.

Gasol stopped a more powerful Dwight in the Finals I'm sure he can handle Amare.

Amare is a totally different player than Dwight Howard. Duncan is a better defender than Pau and Amare takes him to lunch. I mean, Howard isn't going to isolate you and take a guy off the dribble from the high post, that's Amare's game.

[atlwarrior]

Yeah I agree Amare offensively has more weapons than Dwight. Gasol may have problems with him. He can pull up for the mid range, beat Gasol off the dribble, and he's quicker. The only way that matchup might hurt the Suns is that Amare doesnt like to play defense.

[dare]

Spurs loss the series because when Amare gets by his defender it is an easy basket, in the case of the Lakers if Amare gets by Gasol he will be face by a shot blocker named Bynum.

[NovU]

The problem is not only Gasol alone can guard Amare but then so can the Bynum. Twin towers. I wonder how Amare will do against the LAL. If LAL loses, I have a feeling they will go after Bosh hard during this off-season.

Anyways, Artest's D will present a lot of trouble for Suns' perimeter players too. I think the LAL's defense will do just enough in the end.

[Rip32]

Spurs loss the series because when Amare gets by his defender it is an easy basket, in the case of the Lakers if Amare gets by Gasol he will be face by a shot blocker named Bynum.

The same Bynum that is standing about 16 feet from the basket because he has to worry about Channing Frye's three-point shooting? That's the whole point of saying this is a mismatch, Gasol/Bynum are going need each other to successfully shut down Amare. If Frye's threes are falling, you probably won't even see Bynum-Gasol as much as you'll see Lamar Odom on the floor.

[atlwarrior]

Bynum is in no way a shot blocker but he will cause problems bc of his size. But the guys overrated. Hes not a good rebounder because at his size he should average ten or more. It pisses me off he gets so much respect.

[NovU]

I didn't really watch too many Lakers game this year, and he was dealing with injuries too, but in games he played, he actually looked AWESOME especially on defensive end. He is a blocker and a great presence under the rim. That's for sure. I don't like the dude, but he does deserve credits he has been getting. If it wasn't his injury prone body, nobody would be doubting his talent.

[dare]

If it wasn't his injury prone body, nobody would be doubting his talent.

Second that.

[benji]

Bynum is in no way a shot blocker

There's only 13 shot blockers in the NBA?

[shadowgrin]

Bynum is in no way a shot blocker but he will cause problems bc of his size. But the guys overrated. Hes not a good rebounder because at his size he should average ten or more. It pisses me off he gets so much respect.

He's still in the top 10 in total rebound percentage in the playoffs.
Not bad company. Even better than Shaq, Duncan, KG, or Amare.

[dare]

atlwarya9 recently just burn one today so he doesn't really know what he's saying.

[Kenny]

I went for the douchebags option (even though I like Shannon Brown and Luke Walton).

But probably Lakers in 5... unfortunately

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Stern/refs/Lakers in 5

[Jackal]

Hes not a good rebounder because at his size he should average ten or more. It pisses me off he gets so much respect.

At least know what the fuck you're talking about before spewing out incoherent bullshit. You've got another two guys on your team who usually get around 12-13 rebounds + another 10 off the bench.

It only pisses you off how much respect he gets because he doesn't play for your team, the guy is a legitimate 7 footer unlike that 7'1 Ukrainian guy who can't finish a god damn layup on the Jazz. Anyways, you keep getting pissed off at how much respect he gets, who am I to actually try and change your mind. Ignorance is bliss after all.

[atlwarrior]

Hes not a good rebounder because at his size he should average ten or more. It pisses me off he gets so much respect.

At least know what the fuck you're talking about before spewing out incoherent bullshit. You've got another two guys on your team who usually get around 12-13 rebounds + another 10 off the bench.

It only pisses you off how much respect he gets because he doesn't play for your team, the guy is a legitimate 7 footer unlike that 7'1 Ukrainian guy who can't finish a god damn layup on the Jazz. Anyways, you keep getting pissed off at how much respect he gets, who am I to actually try and change your mind. Ignorance is bliss after all.

First of all Im not a Jazz fan. Second hell no I would not want a big bitch on my team but I'll take Pau Gasol anyday. Bynum has also been known to choke against bigger tougher centers his size. As bad as Dwight Howard played in the 2009 finals he still outplayed Andrew Big Bitch Bynum. Gm1 Dwight 12 pts 15 rebs to Bynum's pathetic 9 pts 9 rebs and I remind you he has a good 25 lbs on Dwight. Gm2 Dwight Howard 17 pts 16 rebs to Bynum's 5 pts 1 REB. Im doing this all for you Jackal, Gm3 Dwight Howard 21 pts 14 rebs to Bynum's pathetic 4 pts 4 rebs. Gm4 Dwight Howard 16 pts 21 rebs to Bynum's no excuse 6 pts 2 rebs.Gm 5 Dwight Howard 11 pts 10 rebs to Bynum's 6 pts 5 rebs. Not to mention all of the fouls Bynum had in that series. If it werent for Gasol the Lakers probably wouldve been in trouble. Andrew Bogut, Al Horford, Greg Oden, David Lee, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Nene are all better than Bynum. Dnt get me wrong he has gotten better but still has a long ways to go Oh yeah i bolded just like you did.

[shadowgrin]

Centers assorted by PER, win shares, and win shares per 48 mins. (or you could all just click the column tabs in that table to sort it out)
Hot damn Nazr Mohammed.

In comparison with the Forwards in atlwarya9's list.
Didn't know Nene's primary was listed as Forward.



Jackal always posts in bold. You can even search his entire posts in the forums. What has that got to do with the discussion?

[atlwarrior]

I know he bolds in every post. but why? Thats all i wanna know. Not tryin to be funny.

[Dee.]

maybe because he likes to?

[atlwarrior]

Shadowgrin Pf or C whatever he is listed as he is still better than Bynum. A power forward and center are not really much different than the other. All I know is he starts at Center and K-Mart starts at Power Forward. Nothing will change my opinion of Bynum. Hes garbage to me.

[shadowgrin]

In comparison of Bynum and Nene:

Bynum is more efficient, better rebounder, and shot blocker.
Nene shoots the ball better, assists more, ends up with more steals, and contributes more wins.
But since Nene played more minutes than Bynum, if we base it on win shares per 48 mins. they both contribute the same amount.