Noel Gallagher Leaves Oasis

[Lamrock]

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/i ... at-relief/

Even though they haven't done anything relevant in over a decade, I know some people still like Oasis on here. It isn't the first time Noel has quit, but it looks like its for reals. Personally, I hate Oasis. Their first two albums had good singles, but Liam Gallagher is a prick, Blur were far superior, and everything since has been bad or worse. "Heathen Chemistry" might be worse than Weezer's "Make Believe".

Also, Wikipedia already refers to them in the past tense. It sucks for the people who came to the show, only for the band to break up. Discuss?

BTW, DJ AM died.

[benji]

Good riddance, hope they make an album without him. (Of course he'll be back in a couple months. Like usual.)

Scottish singer Amy MacDonald, who also played the event, claimed via Twitter the band "cancelled again with one minute to stage time!!! Liam smashed Noel's guitar, huuuge fight!"

Lulz, pwned.

[J@3]

I hated Blur. That is all.

[benji]

Ravenous is the best thing Albarn's ever done.

[Lamrock]

I wouldn't expect a heavy metal fan to like Blur. Never heard of Ravenous.

[benji]

A top favorite black comedy. Albarn owns it with the soundtrack. The songs are used perfectly in the film. Ever single one he lays down they place just amazingly. It's better done than almost everything I've ever seen.

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You can find the trailer on YouTube, but I don't recommend it as it's spoilerific. Luckily for me I saw it years before I saw the movie and forgot most of it.

[Moz]

I reckon Noel will not be back this time since he's not a cocaine dependent anymore... Oasis is over since Noel is Oasis

[Joe']

Blur were far superior

I have just lost all respect I had for you. Blur were not even in the same league as Oasis, they're just a bunch of upper-middle class, Queen-loving cockney idiots who happened to make three decent pop songs in a time in history not exactly filled with good musicians. They should be burned alive for the sole fact that they tried to revive an utterly useless genre like shoegaze, mixing it with horrible, ear-numbing, ravish electronica, most of the times paired with low-quality music (experiencing the whole lo-fi thing, "going indie" and whatnot.) Shame on them for even calling themselves alternative rock.

Just look at Oasis' lyrics and you'll understand why what you just said is pure idiocy. Forget that, they've created the most beautiful song of the 90s with four of the simplest chords and a few simple words, which is what Blur have never achieved. They were always trying new things and they always came up with mediocre and very complex efforts.

"Heathen Chemistry" might be worse than Weezer's "Make Believe"

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING is worse than Weezer's Make Believe. Hell, few things are worse than ANY of Weezer's albums.

Heathen Chemistry wasn't a good album but it wasn't bad either. Stop Crying Your Heart Out and Little by Little are among the band's most well-known and best songs. And She Is Love is probably one of the best acoustic songs I've ever heard, again achieved with few guitar chords and simple lyrics.

About Noel leaving, I agree with PhatGeezer. Noel is Oasis, always has been. Liam doesn't even has his voice now so it's over for him. I hope Noel and Gem pair up to make some kind of record or at least tour together, their acoustic performance in Paris was just amazing.

[Lamrock]

Weezer's first two albums are better than Oasis' first two. You clearly have not heard Blue Album or Pinkerton. Wonderwall is a great song, perhaps better than any of Blur's. However, Blur had a better album-by-album legacy. Only their throwaway debut had elements of shoegaze, which many people would disagree and say was a fantastic genre. (Have you ever heard My Bloody Valentine's Loveless?)

Rather than try to remake their best album (Parklife, which was better than either of Oasis' first two) over and over, they actually bothered to try something new and have a little artistic credibility. You might not like indie rock, but were it not for godawful production by William Orbit, it would be their best album. Blur's albums remained fresh while Oasis up until yesterday were stuck in the past. its amazing their didn't disband a decade ago. They even brought in Ringo Starr's son.

While Oasis ruined their legacy by turning to dogshit, Blur shed their Britpop tags and managed to make three excellent indie rock albums. I could care less if you hate the genre, but I can't agree that Oasis are out of Blur's league, when that is the other way around.

btw, Pulp was the best of the Britpop bands. Different Class is better than Parklife, Whats the Story or Definitely Maybe.

[Its_asdf]

To make things fair, I think both Blur, and Oasis are absolute horseshit. Do I win?

I for one am glad that these arrogant twats have finally broken up.

[shadowgrin]

Even now I'm still confused which one of the Gallagher brothers is the douchebag, Liam or Noel?

[Lamrock]

Both. Though it was Liam who smashed Noel's guitar 5 minutes before what was to be a show.

[J@3]

I think Liam is generally more unstable but I can see how Noel would be excessively patronizing and wind up pissing people off.

[Moz]

Liam's a drama queen... I can't blame Noel doin that especially if you're with a Axl Rose-like, gobshite hooligan bandmate like Liam Gallagher. Now let see if he can carry on without Noel's hands onto it.

[Lamrock]

Liam might. They fired the entire band except for the brothers at one point, so he could try. Noel is the songwriter, and Liam's voice is shot, so I doubt the result would be anything noteworthy. Wikipedia refers to the band in the past tense, so they are done.

[el badman]

To make things fair, I think both Blur, and Oasis are absolute horseshit.

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Cheap Britcrap is what they are.

[J@3]

There's not really any other kind of Britpop. It's either highly produced garbage or under produced garbage. You just need a thick accent and to have been born a pretentious wanker to succeed in that genre... well, to have succeeded. That being said, I like roughly 8 Oasis songs (2 more than others) as opposed to the 0 from other bands like that.

[Andrew]

That being said, I like roughly 8 Oasis songs (2 more than others) as opposed to the 0 from other bands like that.

I'm a bit like that with Oasis as well; I'm by no means a fan but I do like a few of their songs, probably around five or six for me.

[Moz]

There's not really any other kind of Britpop. It's either highly produced garbage or under produced garbage. You just need a thick accent and to have been born a pretentious wanker to succeed in that genre... well, to have succeeded.

And you should somewhat look androgynous to be in a Britpop band... It's England's interpretation of glam rock

[Lamrock]

Aside of the band Suede, I don't think thats true. Though Nicky Wire of the Manic Street Preachers wears dresses at gigs for some reason.

[Moz]

I don't know but that's how I saw it back then. It's like every frontman is metrosexual or something. The first time I saw Jarvis Cocker I thought he's gay. It's like glam rock with etiquette.

[Lamrock]

Pssh, however could you come to that conclusion?

[Moz]

D'you know what I mean?

[Joe']

Weezer's first two albums are better than Oasis' first two. You clearly have not heard Blue Album or Pinkerton.

Weezer's first two albums weren't anything special, really. I have listened to Blue Album and Pinkerton several times, and while I found Pinkerton very sad, nerdy and complete emo garbage, I do enjoy most of Blue Album. Though, I consider Undone and Say it Ain't So the only songs that really stand out on the album and on Weezer's entire repertoire (along with Green Album's Island in the Sun,) it's not a bad album and, again, considering all the crap that was released in the 90s, you could even say it was above-average. I just can't stand Pinkerton, though; I think Green Album and Maladroit's power-pop sound is much better than the half hour-long emo rant that is Pinkerton.

Oasis' first two albums are, in my eyes, especially (What's the Story?) Morning Glory, among the top 10 albums of the mid-late 90s (after the death of grunge.) Rock'n'Roll Star, Up in the Sky, Columbia, Live Forever, Supersonic, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Digsy's Diner, Slide Away, Married with Children, Roll With It, Wonderwall, Don't Look Back in Anger, Cast no Shadow, She's Electric, Morning Glory, Champagne Supernova... All of these are very well-written, well-received songs both commercially and critically. I don't care what anyone says: while I agree that, more often than not, commercial success does not equal musical talent or skillfulness, the amount of copies these two albums put together have sold is almost 40 million. That's not something you can just ignore, it means something, and it means that both albums were pretty damn good. So, there's no argument here, what you said, again, is pure idiocy.

Only their throwaway debut had elements of shoegaze, which many people would disagree and say was a fantastic genre. (Have you ever heard My Bloody Valentine's Loveless?)

Many people think Kanye West is musically gifted, does that actually make him musically gifted?

Anyway, different opinions, I guess. I just think shoegaze hasn't contributed anything to music. I've heard My Bloody Valentine's earlier stuff, before they went all noise pop and shit, and while it's better than their more recent stuff, I still don't think pushing on an overdrive distortion pedal throughout the whole song is the way to go. Same thing for pitch bending and excessive reverb. I don't dig that.

Rather than try to remake their best album (Parklife, which was better than either of Oasis' first two) over and over, they actually bothered to try something new and have a little artistic credibility. You might not like indie rock, but were it not for godawful production by William Orbit, it would be their best album. Blur's albums remained fresh while Oasis up until yesterday were stuck in the past. its amazing their didn't disband a decade ago. They even brought in Ringo Starr's son.

Blur's albums, and I mean all of them, were emotionless and their message wasn't really meaningful like Oasis'. Parklife was a fine album, fun to listen to, really complex and accomplished when it comes to the music, but the lyrics are just a bunch of words put together that just don't say anything to me. And I understand wanting to change musical direction, but to do it as drastically as Blur did in Parklife, within the same album, is never ideal. Blur's albums were always new and different, true, but they were never as good as Oasis'.

And their anti-americanism, "hooray-Britain!" propaganda is just pure cockney crap. While Blur were busy trying to make a then-pretty horrible country like the UK look good, and making overweight, idiotic, pro-monarchy Londoners feel good about themselves and reassuring them they were the best human specimens on Earth (as if southern Englishmen weren't already the most pretentious people on Earth,) Oasis actually bothered to point out everything that was wrong with it.

Also, I don't know where you got the idea that I don't like indie rock. I do like it, I just don't like Blur.

While Oasis ruined their legacy by turning to dogshit, Blur shed their Britpop tags and managed to make three excellent indie rock albums. I could care less if you hate the genre, but I can't agree that Oasis are out of Blur's league, when that is the other way around.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

btw, Pulp was the best of the Britpop bands. Different Class is better than Parklife, Whats the Story or Definitely Maybe.

I guess there's something we can agree on, then. Although I believe Pulp would've achieved much more if they wouldn't have changed, like 350 drummers and 200 guitarists throughout their history. The Verve's A Northern Soul and Urban Hymns were also pretty good Britpop efforts.

Cheap Britcrap is what they are.

You're just saying that because you're French.

Liam's a drama queen... I can't blame Noel doin that especially if you're with a Axl Rose-like, gobshite hooligan bandmate like Liam Gallagher. Now let see if he can carry on without Noel's hands onto it.

Liam hasn't been at his best for almost ten years, I'm surprised Noel didn't kick him out of the band when his voice started deteriorating back when Standing on the Shoulder of Giants was released. As I said, Noel and Gem's version of pretty much every song is better than the studio version, and while Liam is very replaceable, as Noel's voice is much better than his and always has been, Noel isn't. So I expect Liam to just leave the band.

[Moz]

Parklife was a fine album, fun to listen to, really complex and accomplished when it comes to the music, but the lyrics are just a bunch of words put together that just don't say anything to me.

What's a Wonderwall anyway? The only problem with Blur is that they doesn't have this stable niche unlike that of Oasis. Musically, Blur are a much talented band compared to Oasis it's just that Oasis got a better appeal to the public. Damon is quite an attention whore also back in the day

Liam hasn't been at his best for almost ten years, I'm surprised Noel didn't kick him out of the band when his voice started deteriorating back when Standing on the Shoulder of Giants was released. As I said, Noel and Gem's version of pretty much every song is better than the studio version, and while Liam is very replaceable, as Noel's voice is much better than his and always has been, Noel isn't. So I expect Liam to just leave the band.

Noel can't do that since Oasis is Liam's band (Noel just joined in). I quite like Liam's voice, particularly on Morning Glory and Be Here Now. It's more unique. Noel's style is bland and boring, Acquiesce is quite ace though. The formula of a Noel penned, Liam sung Oasis song did the trick for them.