Do you feel sorry for Blake Griffin

[Andrew]

No thanks.

[dopeboy]

I guess that would be the answer from most if not all GM's around the league. Nobody needs that guy, except Clips, at least till now.

[Andrew]

Especially since his bloated contracts runs through 2011. He's a tough sell at the moment.

[MikeMan™]

But the Bulls are lacking low-post players . . .

[shadowgrin]

But Zach Randolph is an offensive blackhole and plays no defense.

[MikeMan™]

Chicago Bulls = Golden State Warriors .

[Oznogrd]

MIke are you on something? 50% of the Bulls players play either forward or center. The Bulls this year took a still quality and deep C's team (KG or no KG) to 7 games. With Rose still improving, Gordon gaining a little consistency, and Luol Deng (probably their best player) coming back? I'm really excited to see how they do next year. Hopefully there wont be a collapse a la a few years ago when they went from like 3 seed to one of the worst in the league.

[MikeMan™]

MIke are you on something? 50% of the Bulls players play either forward or center. The Bulls this year took a still quality and deep C's team (KG or no KG) to 7 games. With Rose still improving, Gordon gaining a little consistency, and Luol Deng (probably their best player) coming back? I'm really excited to see how they do next year. Hopefully there wont be a collapse a la a few years ago when they went from like 3 seed to one of the worst in the league.

I don't get it !?

[Oznogrd]

MIke are you on something? 50% of the Bulls players play either forward or center. The Bulls this year took a still quality and deep C's team (KG or no KG) to 7 games. With Rose still improving, Gordon gaining a little consistency, and Luol Deng (probably their best player) coming back? I'm really excited to see how they do next year. Hopefully there wont be a collapse a la a few years ago when they went from like 3 seed to one of the worst in the league.

I don't get it !?

You said the bulls lack low post players. Take a look at their roster. 8/15 players are Forward or Center...so i ask again. Are you on something? The Bulls are fine if they keep improving due to a nucleus of young talent that's learning to consistently apply their game to a team system that equals winning. Adding a guy like Randolph is the last thing they need to do

As for Blake Griffin: i think he's gonna blow out a knee walking up the stairs to put on his clippers hat.

[shadowgrin]

I smell a bet on Draft night.

[MikeMan™]

You said the bulls lack low post players. Take a look at their roster. 8/15 players are Forward or Center...so i ask again. Are you on something? The Bulls are fine if they keep improving due to a nucleus of young talent that's learning to consistently apply their game to a team system that equals winning. Adding a guy like Randolph is the last thing they need to do

As for Blake Griffin: i think he's gonna blow out a knee walking up the stairs to put on his clippers hat.

Tell me at least one player on the Bulls Roster that play's a low post type of game .
8/15 Players are Forward or Center . . . None of them is a low post player or at least plays a decent inside game .

[shadowgrin]

Brad Miller.

[MikeMan™]

Brad Miller.

Nope ! Brad Miller is jump shooting big man .

[Oznogrd]

ummm no Brad Miller Plays a post game, Noah can play a post game, Tyrus Thomas plays a post game. Just because you dont dunk the ball every time or shove people out of the way ala shaqs ass doesnt mean you dont play a low post game. Is Tim Duncan a jump shooting big man in your eyes too?

[shadowgrin]

Nope ! Brad Miller is jump shooting big man .

So is Zach Randolph.

Brad Miller
Jump Shot Attempts: 54%
Inside Shot Attempts: 46%


Zach Randolph
Jump Shot Attempts: 58%
Inside Shot Attempts: 42%

Randolph attempts more jumpshots than Miller and Miller even attempts more inside shots than Zach, percentage-wise.

[MikeMan™]

ummm no Brad Miller Plays a post game, Noah can play a post game, Tyrus Thomas plays a post game. Just because you dont dunk the ball every time or shove people out of the way ala shaqs ass doesnt mean you dont play a low post game. Is Tim Duncan a jump shooting big man in your eyes too?

Nope ! Tim is clearly a post player ( Don't need to think about that )
Brad Miller - Jump Shooting Big Man ( I always see him at mid-range , Pick-n-Pop Player )
Joakim Noah - Varejao type player ( Defensive minded player )
Tyrus Thomas - A wingman playing at PF position ( Defensive minded player and just good for fastbreaks )
None of those three that you gave is a low-post THREAT
I said LOW-POST THREAT ( T-H-R-E-A-T )

I still see a possible L.A.C. - CHI trade coming .

[Oznogrd]

But the Bulls are lacking low-post players . . .

No you said LOW POST PLAYERS

Nope ! Tim is clearly a post player ( Don't need to think about that )
Brad Miller - Jump Shooting Big Man ( I always see him at mid-range , Pick-n-Pop Player )
Joakim Noah - Varejao type player ( Defensive minded player )
Tyrus Thomas - A wingman playing at PF position ( Defensive minded player and just good for fastbreaks )
None of those three that you gave is a low-post THREAT
I said LOW-POST THREAT ( T-H-R-E-A-T )

I still see a possible L.A.C. - CHI trade coming .

Just because its what you always see doesnt make it true. Check 82games.com buddy. Mr shadowgrin just showed you miller is less of a jump shooter than randolph. Noah=53% of his shots are in close. Defensive minded doesnt mean you're not a post player. *coughcoughGarnetcoughcough*. Tyrus Thomas=inside 45% of the time. Also remember this is a very guard oriented team. When the ball is supposed to be in the hands of your best players and thats your guards: there's going to be less of a lowpost game. The trade wont happen. Paxson's not that stupid.

[MikeMan™]

But the Bulls are lacking low-post players . . .

No you said LOW POST PLAYERS

Can I be banned by arguing !?
Just for my membership safety . . .

[Oznogrd]

lol no: but show me an exact post where you said threat without editing. You hadnt said until that post you just put. I'm going to kindly bow out because no matter what I say or backup with stats you wont listen and i really dont wanna turn into a resident statboy (that's benji's job) so i leave you with this
Zach Randolph is srs bisnezz

[shadowgrin]

I still see a possible L.A.C. - CHI trade coming .

For Zach Randolph? Why would the Bulls bring in a player who attempts more jumpshots and less inside shots (percentage-wise)? I thought they need a low post threat?

Brad Miller
Jump Shot Attempts: 54%
Inside Shot Attempts: 46%


Zach Randolph
Jump Shot Attempts: 58%
Inside Shot Attempts: 42%

No, you can't be banned for arguing, unless you take it overboard and call someone with excessive derogatory remarks.

[MikeMan™]

Duncan : - 57 % of his attempts Jumpshots - - 43 % of his attempts Inside
Z-Bo : - 58 % of his attempts Jumpshots - - 42 % of his attempts Inside

Duncan - Low Post Threat or Not !?

Z-Bo !?

Please don't show me stats , just analyze a players playing style . Z-Bo is a low post player . . .

[shadowgrin]

Not really. The Bulls play better defense.


Bulls
Offensive Rating: 108.4 (14th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 108.7 (18th of 30)

Warriors
Offensive Rating: 109.5 (9th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 113.3 (28th of 30)

[MikeMan™]

Not really. The Bulls play better defense.


Bulls
Offensive Rating: 108.4 (14th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 108.7 (18th of 30)

Warriors
Offensive Rating: 109.5 (9th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 113.3 (28th of 30)

Again , with the stats . . .
Use your eyes for heaven's sake .
They nearly play the same style of game , Run and Gun . . .

[Oznogrd]

Stats are the only objective way to evaluate the NBA players/any sport for that matter...dont make us bring in the big guns...*plays scary intro music*

[MikeMan™]

This is coming way off topic .
The Clipz will draft Griffin ( That's for sure ) and if any team is not interested in acquiring Camby , Kaman and Z-Bo . Why not keep them all !?