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Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Fcuk Orlando on Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:54 am

There are strong indications that the Suns will have a new head coach leading them at Monday's scheduled afternoon practice.

Although no final decision has been made, the apparent plan is for Suns management to fire Terry Porter - who in his first season has led the Suns to a 28-23 record and ninth place in the Western Conference standings - on Monday.
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Because of financial concerns, the replacement probably would come from the staff. Lead assistant Alvin Gentry would be the likely successor, not General Manager Steve Kerr, as has been reported.

Gentry and assistant Bill Cartwright have previous head-coaching experience, but Gentry has been with Phoenix since 2004.

Porter has had two shots at his 100th career coaching victory, but the Suns lost both games by 17 points to finish a 6-10 stretch entering the All-Star break. Their past six losses have come by double digits.

He signed a three-year contract in June to be the Suns' coach, but the third year is not guaranteed. The Suns would eat about $2 million of Porter's salary by firing him. He was the only experienced head coach among the finalists for the job, which was vacated in the off-season by Mike D'Antoni.

The timing seems ideal for a new coach, with the Suns facing the Los Angeles Clippers (13-40) on Tuesday and Wednesday and Oklahoma City (13-40) on Friday.

There has been speculation that a big change would be coming in the form of a trade involving forward Amaré Stoudemire. Chicago, Houston and Cleveland have been considered the likely trading partners, but a deal with Portland for guard Jerryd Bayless, a first-round draft pick and Raef LaFrentz's expiring, insurance-protected contract has been considered.

Any trade also would not happen until Monday, as the NBA does not want the Suns to act during All-Star weekend in its city.

The Suns' decreasing faith in Porter recently became apparent when Managing Partner Robert Sarver and Kerr took unscheduled cross-country flights to Atlanta to hold meetings with players without Porter, a sign that they did not think the coach was reaching the players.

Porter got off to a bad start with many players during training camp, when his no-nonsense approach, basic drills and changes in philosophy ruffled some, especially veterans.

The players had asked for more of a defensive emphasis and accountability after last season's first-round playoff exit under D'Antoni. However, they did not buy in to Porter's program from the beginning. The team is loaded with subpar defensive players and has not improved in that area, and Kerr said that is his biggest disappointment this season.

Porter's attempt to put in a Detroit Pistons-type offense was abandoned after an 11-9 start. Porter allowed point guard Steve Nash to have more control of the ball and push the tempo more, although he still wanted center Shaquille O'Neal to regularly have post-up opportunities. Nash and teammates pitched their cases in public that the team was built to run, and they got their wishes.

The Suns won more in December, but Porter did not win their respect.

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Now hes gone: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3909711
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby Al Ka Pwn on Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:12 am

using shaq to his full potential in a fast running team seems impossible.
will be interesting to see how the suns will play.
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby Alejandrov011 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:53 am

I read this too!

The Suns need an offensive Coach, not a defensive one like Porter...

Bring Iavaroni or somebody with offensive mind! Come on!! The Suns problem is the game system! The players are who win and play, not the coach
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:31 pm

The only offensive coach available right now that i could think off the top of my head is Flip Saunders.
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:40 pm

It's getting ridiculous when the offseason hires are getting canned before the season is through. At least with coaches like Sam Mitchell you've had a few years to grow disenchanted with them and tried making a couple of moves before deciding a coaching change is necessary. The Suns traded two core players and are trying to reshape the team on the fly. Sure, management aren't going to fire themselves but I'd say Porter's definitely taking the fall for them in this situation, rather than being a failure himself.
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby Null17 on Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:07 pm

Sad to see the Suns fucked themselves up so suddenly. They used to be the darling of the NBA. Exciting to watch, great chemistry, good transactions winning a lot. Everyone was hanging on their nuts. Now everything's going down the train, every hates the GM, the coach, the players, people getting traded and fired.
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Re: Suns' Porter likely gone by Monday

Postby bee-boy on Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:41 am

another coach bites the dust
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Alejandrov011 on Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:00 am

IT IS OFFICIAL!!! http://www.nba.com/suns/news/gentry_090216.html

I think it is the best move... Gentry is with the Suns since 2004 and he knows the team...

I guess that with this move Amar'e won't be traded
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Andrew on Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:30 pm

I don't think that automatically makes him a better choice or firing Porter the right move. If this was the best course of action, why not promote him this past offseason? Why bother bringing in Porter in the first place?
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Alejandrov011 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:19 am

Because the media an the entire world pushed for Defense in Phoenix when the team is prepared to be a offensive minded team!

I hope the Suns becomes the Suns of other years... or close
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby TheBigEasy on Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:11 am

Andrew wrote:I don't think that automatically makes him a better choice or firing Porter the right move. If this was the best course of action, why not promote him this past offseason? Why bother bringing in Porter in the first place?


Kerr wanted a defense first team. Porter was with the Pistons before and Kerr thought, he'd bring the same success to the Suns. What he didn't calculate for, was that the players he had didn't suit the defensive minded approach at all. I'd say Porter wasn't so much fired to be a scapegoat or because it was his fault, but because the system didn't fit the players. And rather than changing the whole roster, they fired the coach. If it really went down like this, its actually the first coach firing I understand in this league. Normally I'm with you ... when ever has a midseason coachfiring panned out in that season.

Now of course Kerr looks like an idiot, cause his experiment, which he started with trading Marion for Shaq backfired spectacularly. We'll see how long he will be staying in Phoenix. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and all that ... but he should have stuck with the team he had and especially with D'Antoni, as now its obvious how much of the success of the team in the past years was because of D'Antonis system.

The Suns are in this mess because of the ownership change and the subsequent leaving of the Colangelos. Trading away the core players of D'Antonis System in Marion, Bell and Diaw and gambling on Shaq was a huge mistake. Given, Shaq is rejuvenated ... but looks where the team is now compared to the past four/five seasons. They should have tried to tweak the roster and ride Nash til the end of his contract within D'Antonis system.

If they don't find a way to get back to their winning ways fast, Kerr will get axed too and Nash will leave in 2010. Ok, he might not have much left in the tank by then ... but they totally wasted him last season, this season and next, which is a shame.
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby ThaLiveKing on Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:56 am

All these GMS are fuckin retarded. . .
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby tee-pane on Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:33 am

Yes, back 2 the good old run-n-gun! Hope the Suns move back up to the top of the west! I kno they'll make the playoffs for sure tho.
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Alejandrov011 on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:04 pm

140-100

The Suns are back :mrgreen:
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Patr1ck on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:37 pm

It was against the Clippers, it doesn't count.
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Jackal on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:40 pm

Kerr didn't trade Shaq for Marion with "defensive team" in mind, you'd be absurd to think Shaq is better defensively than Marion. The reason Kerr traded for Shaq is because Phoenix kept getting killed by the best powerforward ever (imo). They figured Shaq's presence might help in stopping him a bit. Guess that didn't really work out.
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Re: Suns' Porter FIRED

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:42 pm

TheBigEasy wrote:Kerr wanted a defense first team. Porter was with the Pistons before and Kerr thought, he'd bring the same success to the Suns. What he didn't calculate for, was that the players he had didn't suit the defensive minded approach at all. I'd say Porter wasn't so much fired to be a scapegoat or because it was his fault, but because the system didn't fit the players. And rather than changing the whole roster, they fired the coach. If it really went down like this, its actually the first coach firing I understand in this league. Normally I'm with you ... when ever has a midseason coachfiring panned out in that season.


But that's still management's fault for assembling the roster. If defense is what they wanted, why trade Boris Diaw and Raja Bell for Jason Richardson? I know that's how it works, that the coach is the easiest element of the team to change but it's a quick change even by NBA standards and now they've got to pay out his contract, plus whoever they bring in next year (or Gentry if he's made the permanent replacement, for however long they're willing to wait). I really think Kerr should've stayed in the booth.
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