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Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:07 am

RealGM snippet, original source.

Former NBA great Rick Barry had some pointed comments for LeBron James during an interview with Comcast SportsNet Bay Area that will air on Wednesday night.

"He's got major flaws in his game," Barry said. "He's six years into the NBA. How can a man six years into the NBA with his talent have a major flaw in his shot? How can he not use screens effectively? . . I watch the game very carefully - he doesn't use screens effectively and this is not LeBron's fault. It's the fault of the people who are teaching him. . . . There is no doubt in my mind that LeBron, if shown these things would do them, because he wants to be a great player, he wants to win a championship. As great as he is, he should be better."


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The knee-jerk reaction is that it's another example of a former great being critical of the current generation and giving them too little credit but Rick Barry isn't usually the most outspoken in that regard (at least I don't recall many other examples of him doing that) and he's not making the usual "back in my day" point so the question is, simply, does he have a point with those observations? And if so, how much better "should" LeBron be?

At this point of his career, when he's still explosive and has plenty of time to develop new offensive weapons, his jumpshot is probably adequately effective despite any flaws with his mechanics and for whatever problems he may have using screens effectively, he has the size and athleticism to shoot over opponents and get to the basket at will. At some point it will become a concern as his athleticism will someday decline and he'll lose some of his natural gifts that he's using so well at the moment but that's a while off yet. In the meantime, he can continue to hone and expand his skills, as other greats have done. His six years in the league are a bit misleading too as they don't represent the experience and age of an NBA vet who also spent at least two or three years in college before coming to the NBA.

With that in mind, I'm not sure how much better LeBron can fairly be expected to be. The improvements we'll see are likely going to be these little things: shooting mechanics, effective screen use, clutch reliability, higher shooting percentages. I think there's still that unfair expectation that he's going to do something really attention grabbing like average 40 ppg or a triple double or something truly unbelievable, when he's already playing at a very high level and posting some very nice numbers.

I suppose it's natural to think that given he came into the league at eighteen and played so well from day one, but I think we need to get past the idea that he's nowhere near his prime and when he gets there, astonishing out-of-this-world numbers will follow. I believe that the LeBron we'll see in a few years will be similar to the one we see now, except perhaps with a more overall game, a few of those weaknesses turned into strengths or at least lesser liabilities and who knows, maybe an MVP award or two and a ring. But some of the ridiculous numbers that are thrown about? He's not the only great player to come along in the last couple of decades or so, if it were that easy in the modern game (or even in the early days of the NBA), more players would be achieving those numbers or coming close to it.
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby The X on Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:49 pm

Yes, the older generation can be overly critical....and the fact is, Rick Barry would've had no chance of slowing down Lebron....but maybe, just maybe he's onto a point here....Lebron came straight out of high school, maybe didn't get taught all the fundamentals he might've learnt in college, so he probably hasn't learnt to use screens in the most effective manner....

I would think though that the Cavs would've recognised this previously & be be previously & currently providing him with intensive coaching to improve his fundamentals, including shot mechanics & free throw mechanics (he's at least hitting a better %)....

I must admit I'd like to see Lebron use a screen better than using his infamous crab dribble & taking 3 steps, sliding his pivot foot half way across the court & so on....

in the end, if all that Rick Barry can nitpick on is LBJ's ability to use a screen better, then Lebron is in pretty good stead for his career....
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:42 pm

Well that's the thing, he is compensating for these weaknesses quite well and they are things that he can learn and hone throughout his career. For major flaws, they're not slowing him down too much.
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby erik_twism on Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:55 pm

The only reason he´s not using screens effective is that he doesn´t need to use them. He can get to the basket everytime he wants, he has a nice post game, is effective in the pick and roll ... He´s not in need to be like Rip Hamilton and run around a set of screens and if he wants to be like Rip, I´m sure he can learn it in no time.
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby Sam The Man on Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:59 am

Outside of Utah, nearly all NBA players don't use screens the 'correct way' so i dont think its such a big deal. As for his shooting, i think Rick is having a shot at the Cleveland shooting coaches or whoever helps him to improve. If LeBron isn't being taught the correct way, then of course his shot isnt going to greatly improve. But LeBron is still young, and he could probably improve a lot more when he reaches his prime.
A problem i do have with LeBron is he is too perimeter orientated, he needs to learn how to take guys on the post more often. He isnt going to have the same speed, quickness and athletic ability when he is 30 or older, so might have more trouble scoring, considering right now he just blows by his man.
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:53 am

I think that might develop out of determination to get better and perhaps eventually, necessity. Michael Jordan is a good example of that. His jumpshot was never downright terrible but he made it into an even more effective weapon when he reached the point where his athleticism had started to decline and although he was still very effective at getting to the basket he sometimes had to pick and choose the times he'd take the ball inside because he didn't have the same stamina he had when he was younger. I think LeBron could be similar in his development.
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Re: Ricky Barry on LeBron: "He's got major flaws"

Postby sdot_thadon on Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:23 am

I agree with Barry and to an extent understand where he's coming from. He said he loves watching Lebron, and just wants to help him. With his speed and power he is able to overcome most of his flaws. Imagine though if James had these fundamentals perfected, it would simplify the game for him. It's crazy though that a guy with obvious holes in his game is the best in the league. This is what feeds these outrageous expectations. On the other hand the jumper looked nice at the end of the goldenstate game...... :shock: :bowdown:

@ Andrew, I agree he should get better with time. Just gotta remember he's only 5 years in.
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