[KRIS][ GAMEPLAY FIX][ vol1] :BYE2x 08:

[nugget4life1500]

i like ur work kris but i dont liek this roster
players lose dribbles too easily i feel that some are very underrated or overrated
subs are still messed up brian scalabrine played more than kg

[Angelo]

dont worry roster is now fixed dunk ratings and overall ratings for all players are now fixed ill release this when im satisfied with it..

[muschio11]

i had tha most fun juz now playin live 08. thanx to flip v2 sliders set for 12 min. although i played kinda bad. had too many turnovers cuz of 3 sec violations and tryin a few alley oops. i dont see any cons in tha stats. i played real basketball and didnt dunk too much juz mostly inside out game when i have tha dunk available is when i dunk. didnt use player lock. yes ckal i'll stick to playin 12 min so its realistic that way reason why kobe played 48 min cuz i turn on auto sub on too late. heres tha results:

Hi gucci!! Are you italian?

[CKal]

Please keep the posts on topic.

dont worry roster is now fixed dunk ratings and overall ratings for all players are now fixed ill release this when im satisfied with it..

Great news - I'm pissed enough when Gasol failed to catch and dunk, as well as Sheed, and the ball flew to the stands...

[Que_Cero]

@Que _Cero

bro, you said you're using fliplow's webberf1 updated rosters..
have u tried simulating a whole dynasty and resign a player's contract?
i tried using Kris' roster and wf1 updated by flip but my game crashed on the resigning of contracts' screen..tsktsk..

I am now using the NLSC roster by Andrew and it gives me the best results. Also i went through the ratings for about 20 teams and compared season stats from the last two years and they seem to be spot on. Andrew does a good job at his roster. Its more a reflection of actual statistics and talent, than a reflection of his own opinion and favor. This has been the problem with other rosters i think. I felt that some other roster makers made it to much to their liking instead of more realism. If I had to rate the 4 rosters I have used they'd go in this order

1. NLSC08 by Andrew
2. Webberf1 updated roster by Webberf1/Flip
3. Albys realistic roster
4. Kris roster

Lol sorry kris but your ratings killed it for me =P

On to stats I got. I'll post some pics later but typing is good enough.

I play 9 minute quarters on Superstar level using the last slider settings posted here by Flip. I may be moving up to 12 Minutes because of the low scoring in some games. I avg about 89 ppg =D. Thats a lil less than the league avg this year. The league high in ppg i think was the Mavs with 105ppg. I may be wrong, or that may be from 2007 season.

Last game I played was Rockets (me) vs. Jazz (cpu). Final score was 97 to 85, I won. My fg percentage was 44% with me taking about 85 shots I believe and i went 2 for 5 from 3pt Land. The cpu shot about 38% from the field and went about 3 for 7 from 3pt land. There were a decent number of foul shots. Not many turnovers, only about 11 or 12 combined for both teams.

Only problem is that i still have the biug where the cpu does not sub out players in foul trouble. Thats with any roster i use. Can someone tell me what to download for this. I believe I have the sub fix but would reinstalling it help? And was the sub fix even for fouls or just for fatigue subbing.

Anyways Pics a lil later.

[fliplaurel]

@kris,

bro! you really out did yourself this time! d@mn bro, in the seven games i played vs cpu teams in dynasty i lost 4 games and the rest were wins by a hairline!

here are my initial notes for the test aiact and settings using your rosters for 12mins Superstar(adjusted time to 12 mins bro, hope you don't mind).

Good points:
1. CPU now does crossovers!
2. Both defense and offense are now running back very quickly
3. Defense is S-T-I-C-K-Y. its really hard to get open unless you make good offensive plays.
4. CPU has improved Offensive plays and playmaking meaning, if there is an opening the'll drive but if there isn't they'll pass and look for the open players.
5. Has improved low post plays
6. It's very difficult to win this time, which is good!

Things to look upon for the included sliders:

1. With your slider settings, CPU almost makes 90% of shots in-the-paint even when duble or triple teamed but this could easily be fixed by slider tweaking.
2. Sub frequency is also a bit innacurate, which can also be remedied by slider tweaking.
3. Related to this, foul trouble players don't get sudbed immediately. (pssst...pareng Maek any new updates on sub fixes? )
4. Overall fg shot % was good / realistic: range 42 % to 48% for both user and cpu teams
4. I'll try to tweak the sliders and give feedback again ok.

Things to look upon for the aiact:
1. .... umm, none. it's perfect!

Overall, i can say that this truly has the best gameplay i've played among all your aiact fixes. even bested sgpf 1.0 aiact in my opinion. I believe its a go for release bro.

oh, i forgot to post screens as my computer is a little buggy as of the moment but will try to post when i can. oki.

PEACE

[shamanis]

-fliplaurel-

Thats the newest aiact, who aren't realesed, yea?

[atlwarrior]

hey kris to get lebron to get more assists start him on pg and put delonte on sg and wally on sf.

in defensive matchups switch lebron to guard the sg and go to the cpu and switch the cpu sg to guard lebron

cleveland has a wierd offense but this is the way to get close to how they run in real life

[Angelo]

But it is hard bro atlawarya because you still need to pause the game and edit some matchups for the team..

@Que Cero

Dont worry bro rosters is now fixed 100% with good ratings (both overall and dunk ratings ) so no need to have a prob

@Flip

yah i definitely see some good plays with this damn aiact its really hard for me to win games cuz the defense is so sticky..

btw ive also edited it a bit more to really get that good passing from inside and outside players..

My roster or Andrews roster + this latest aiact that i made = BEST NBALIVE GAMEPLAY EVER

[easy_hoop]

Kris, hey does your fix fixes bad alley oops, easy inbounds steals and bad passes in example my player above the free throw line, teammate is about 1 meter far from me and when i pass cpu picks this pass... does your fix fixes these things?

[Modifly]

After I had tried the latest aiact, I must say that I've only got open like 10 times... the defense is so damn sticky.

I've had the best ever experience playing LIVE with this new aiact

Only thing that bothers me is, I cant hit threes because I dont get open

Kris, expect another feedback from me via PM tomorrow Today I cant take anymore... Kobe's got me done tonight with his ebo

[GuCcI08]

does anyone uses player lock?i tried to use it but i get pissed when my teammates makes a bad play. and in dynasty mode u have to pause to enable player lock. but i think using player lock makes tha game realistic. ima try using it again when kris released his latest aiact and roster. keep it goin kris. really appreciate ur work.

[muschio11]

Hey Kris!

when will u release new aiact?

[Que_Cero]

@kris,

bro! you really out did yourself this time! d@mn bro, in the seven games i played vs cpu teams in dynasty i lost 4 games and the rest were wins by a hairline!

here are my initial notes for the test aiact and settings using your rosters for 12mins Superstar(adjusted time to 12 mins bro, hope you don't mind).

Good points:
1. CPU now does crossovers!
2. Both defense and offense are now running back very quickly
3. Defense is S-T-I-C-K-Y. its really hard to get open unless you make good offensive plays.
4. CPU has improved Offensive plays and playmaking meaning, if there is an opening the'll drive but if there isn't they'll pass and look for the open players.
5. Has improved low post plays
6. It's very difficult to win this time, which is good!

Things to look upon for the included sliders:

1. With your slider settings, CPU almost makes 90% of shots in-the-paint even when duble or triple teamed but this could easily be fixed by slider tweaking.
2. Sub frequency is also a bit innacurate, which can also be remedied by slider tweaking.
3. Related to this, foul trouble players don't get sudbed immediately. (pssst...pareng Maek any new updates on sub fixes? )
4. Overall fg shot % was good / realistic: range 42 % to 48% for both user and cpu teams
4. I'll try to tweak the sliders and give feedback again ok.

Things to look upon for the aiact:
1. .... umm, none. it's perfect!

Overall, i can say that this truly has the best gameplay i've played among all your aiact fixes. even bested sgpf 1.0 aiact in my opinion. I believe its a go for release bro.

oh, i forgot to post screens as my computer is a little buggy as of the moment but will try to post when i can. oki.

PEACE

Flip, Are there a few sliders that i can move to fix this foul sub problem. I'm using the latest sliders you provided and have given my detailed game results, as per above. However, just like you, the cpu does not sub out players in foul trouble.

I just hope theres a way to fix, because i restart games sometimes because the stars of other teams get 3 or 4 fouls by the 2nd quarter and are still in the game. Which means if they foul out, then the rest of the game is easier because they aren't there.

=(

[shamanis]

I'm the only one who hasn't any sub problems? E.G. Kobe got 3 fouls (my foul limit is 5) and immediately Kobe was changed by other player

[ddino]

Why didn't you write readme? I don't know where to put some files.

Sorry for my bad English

[chris-3-]

ok guy´s first of all you did a really great job! the aiact is almost perfect!

but i got 2 questions:

first one: I just played a dynasty game between NY and Clevland and LeBron attempted only 3 shots in the first half and gave one assist in the end didn´t really play much made only 12 points and 2 dimes. instead of going to lebron and having him drive to the basket the CPU either attemped ja jumper with lebron (the few times he had the ball!) or let "Z" or pavlovic try to score without much success i mus say.
just take it as in info for the next versions or please tell me if you don´t have the problem what i could do to change this. (with dirk against dallas and melo against denver the same thing happend)

ok second is: as we have a almost perfect aiact now i would like to know with simengin you guy´s are using i am currently using the latest version of yeskey1983´s patch but althoug it is good it´s not perfect especially in terms of assits and rebound´s that i have the feeling aren´t really calculated refering to rating´s of players (i tunded Curry down to 40 ORB and 50 DRB and he still grabs 9.8 RPG on dyasty while dwight with both rated 99 grabs 10.3 RPG per game )

just let me know if you have the same problems and witch simengin you use and if it solves these things!


ok than thank´s in advance to all of you and keep up the really great work with thins you make the game a hole lot better with your patches!!!

[showtimelakers]

New here and need help with where to put these files at?

[shamanis]

New here and need help with where to put these files at?

Settings - my documents\NBA LIVE 08\settings
Rosters (but soon will be new better roster) - my documents\NBA LIVE 08\saves
Gameplay Aiact - Program Files\EA SPORTS\NBA LIVE 08\ai\act
Animations - If you are going to use normal aiact, put these files there - Program Files\EA SPORTS\NBA LIVE 08\anim\body, if you are going to use fancy passes and dunks or one of them, don't do that.
1st Database - put OrigDB files in Program Files\EA SPORTS\NBA LIVE 08\database\OrigDB
2st Database - My Documents\NBA LIVE 08\database
E.G. workingdb files in workingdb folder

[showtimelakers]

Thanks for the help Shamanis.

But now I'm having a problem with the shoes i think.

heres a picture of the shoe problem

[Albys]

Great gameplay, Kris.
This last is the best gameplay patch all time!


I've tested in these days also with my RR 5.5 (release today) and the gameplay is almost perfect (just some different sliders)
I include your new patch in my release RR5.5, in substitution of your precedent aiact patch, obviously with credits and a lot of money!

[Gringo1987]

nice patch...thanx!

[Modifly]

showtimelakers, you have a basketball pattern shoes because you did not install the Real Shoes patch. Get that installed and the shoes will be correct.

Kris, I tested your latest aiact more today and I found a bug. Iverson keeps taking threes from 5 feet beyond the three point line. It is very annoying. He take them highly contested too, which always results in a miss. The worst thing is he took it 5 feet behind the arc Hope you can fix that.
The gameplay overall is still very good though, I'm very impressed. Although I would like to insist that three pointers are too hard to make. I rarely get open. Maybe make user control players get open more often and make threes easier to hit and fix some bugs it'll be good to go.


fliplaurel, can you suggest slider for me please? I'm using Kris's latest aiact, the beta one. I play 10 minutes quarter

[shamanis]

Thanks for the help Shamanis.

But now I'm having a problem with the shoes i think.

heres a picture of the shoe problem

Yea, get Real Shoes patch

P.S. What lightning you are using?

[Que_Cero]

showtimelakers, you have a basketball pattern shoes because you did not install the Real Shoes patch. Get that installed and the shoes will be correct.

Kris, I tested your latest aiact more today and I found a bug. Iverson keeps taking threes from 5 feet beyond the three point line. It is very annoying. He take them highly contested too, which always results in a miss. The worst thing is he took it 5 feet behind the arc Hope you can fix that.
The gameplay overall is still very good though, I'm very impressed. Although I would like to insist that three pointers are too hard to make. I rarely get open. Maybe make user control players get open more often and make threes easier to hit and fix some bugs it'll be good to go.


fliplaurel, can you suggest slider for me please? I'm using Kris's latest aiact, the beta one. I play 10 minutes quarter

I think the defense is perfect. It actually forces you to set plays, and to learn your teams plays. I use the knicks and use a double back screen play to get my SF, quintin richardson open on the left wing. Or I use Iso with my Pg and back down the defender towards the hoop, and kick it out to the arch when the double team comes. Same thing with center post up. I get my share of open 3's.

You actually have to try at offense now, it isnt easy anymore. No more running around and randomly passing and hoping the defense drops an assignment.

As for sliders I use Flips latest sliders which were built for 12 minutes, but i play on 9 minutes and average maybe 85 to 90 PPg. Great sliders.

Just wish I could fix the sub problem, other than that I believe this is a perfect release. Btw, i use NLSC roster by Andrew.