NBA live 08 PC

[airarch_23]

as long as this community stays strong PC basketball fans will never be screwed.

I agree Jao,... As long as NLSC is alright, PC versions are going to be alive..

[joejam999]

What ever happened to the days when Live on PC owned all like in 2000? Live 2000 on PC was way better then 2000 on 64 or PS. I think the 64 version only had MJ in 1 on 1 and that was it. Not to mention the face import for the PC version.

[Andrew]

Those days ended when the console market became the focus of the series.

[fjccommish]

"Good chance it'll be only a slight step ahead of Live 07 for the PC. To have Live 08 with next-gen graphics would require users to have the latest hardware for the PC just to probably even run it steadily, it'd definitely alienate most of the PC users who haven't bothered updating their PC's"

When will the myth of next gen stop? Top end PC's from last year were ahead of an XBOX 360. Top end PC's now, a year later, are even further ahead of XBOX 360.

[1311176]

The rest of the day was dedicated to capturing the guys' signature moves for "NBA Live '08" in the EA gym. Durant was pumped that his trademark chest bump (fist to chest after big buckets) was going to make it into the game. Keep an eye out for that when you're at home with your joysticks.
"NBA Live" project manager David Pekush explained to the boys why they had to wear the special suits to create some gamelike moments. "We want all your moves in the game," Pekush said. "Julian's dunks, Brandan's hook, Corey's defensive stance, Joakim's jumper …" -- but Pekush was cut off before he could finish that sentence, since Brewer and Horford burst out laughing at the idea anybody would want Noah's "unique" jumper in the game. Noah was quick to shoot them a look of antipathy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=buckheit/070618

I think this would be awesome, but not sure about it will be on PC version or not. And the video in the link is cool haha

[OldFoolStyle]

When will the myth of next gen stop? Top end PC's from last year were ahead of an XBOX 360. Top end PC's now, a year later, are even further ahead of XBOX 360.

How so?, have you read the technical specs for the 360?. Last I read Intel's triple core processors were still a 360 exclusive, and won't be hitting the PC market 'till november at the earliest. The closest thing on PC's are the Quad, two duo cores connected seperetly. I do give the nod to the Quad though, but only slightly not the major adavncement you give it credit for.
Similarly, many of the functions of the ATI video card included in the 360 are also exclusives and won't hit the PC market untill Q4 of this year or Q1 or Q2 of the next.
Also keep in mind the soft economy and slow PC sales. The highest end available PCs aren't realy reflective of the current average PC in the home. Sports games, and basketball in particular, just aren't enough of a draw to push the hardware specs.

P.S. Thank Jah you didn't try to compare the PC to the PS3, that thing has a nine-freakin'-core CPU. Nine Buddah-damned core, no one even knows how to program for that. Multiply your current CPU by 8, and it still eats you alive and poops you out.

[Tony11]

Who cares about PC. Get a job and buy an next gen system and thats it. I have both PC and a Xbox 360 and Im 17 years old with a part time job that has to pay rent too. So stop crying because it is possible to have a next gen system and a computer. Buy any next gen systems and your problems will be solved. You wont have to worry about "Will their be a PC NBA Live." EA is not lazy its you guys for not wanting to work to pay extra money on something. The End.

[el badman]

Who cares about PC. Get a job and buy an next gen system and thats it. I have both PC and a Xbox 360 and Im 17 years old with a part time job that has to pay rent too. So stop crying because it is possible to have a next gen system and a computer. Buy any next gen systems and your problems will be solved. You wont have to worry about "Will their be a PC NBA Live." EA is not lazy its you guys for not wanting to work to pay extra money on something. The End.

That's such a diplometic way to put it on a forum where the majority of members plays Live on PC...
So you're a badass because you have a job and pay rent at only 17? Good for you kiddo.
As mentioned above, maybe some people aren't interested in buying a stupid console just for one game...

[Tony11]

Who cares about PC. Get a job and buy an next gen system and thats it. I have both PC and a Xbox 360 and Im 17 years old with a part time job that has to pay rent too. So stop crying because it is possible to have a next gen system and a computer. Buy any next gen systems and your problems will be solved. You wont have to worry about "Will their be a PC NBA Live." EA is not lazy its you guys for not wanting to work to pay extra money on something. The End.

That's such a diplometic way to put it on a forum where the majority of members plays Live on PC...
So you're a badass because you have a job and pay rent at only 17? Good for you kiddo.
As mentioned above, maybe some people aren't interested in buying a stupid console just for one game...

So if they aren't going to buy the console for 1 game then they should just shut up and play the game EA gives them or not buy the game at all. Save up all that money from the basketball game you complain about and buy yourself a next gen console and you will be happy.

[el badman]

So if they aren't going to buy the console for 1 game then they should just shut up and play the game EA gives them or not buy the game at all.

So basically, any online community like this one that generates, year after year, a large amount of feedback for companies like EA to look into, all of that is useless, right?
As paying customers, I'm pretty sure we have the right to complain about bugs and issues, hoping that they'll be fixed next time, I don't see how that makes us whiny.

Save up all that money from the basketball game you complain about and buy yourself a next gen console and you will be happy.

"all that money" is 40 bucks, I'm not sure that'll be enough for a 360...

[Sauru]

sweet 40 bucks for a xbox 360, sign me up

[Tony11]

I say EA won't do anything because you keep buying the game which you say has bugs and issues. They keep making money while you buy their games and thats why they wont do anything to fix the problems. Look how NBA Live was the past two years not a lot of people bought the game so they got to work as fast as they could working on this years NBA Live 08. So don't buy it this year and maybe next year you will have a better game.

[OldFoolStyle]

Ok, now it's time to switch from next-gen shill mode, and back into PC defender mode.
Tony11, for some of us part of the fun of games is the way we can edit and modify them. This is simply not an option with consoles, regardless of price.
There is also the fact that computers/electronics are always improving, and those of us with an interest in such things will always what to see even more improvements. Hence the need for gripe boards such as this.

[benji]

How so?, have you read the technical specs for the 360?. Last I read Intel's triple core processors were still a 360 exclusive, and won't be hitting the PC market 'till november at the earliest. The closest thing on PC's are the Quad, two duo cores connected seperetly. I do give the nod to the Quad though, but only slightly not the major adavncement you give it credit for.
Similarly, many of the functions of the ATI video card included in the 360 are also exclusives and won't hit the PC market untill Q4 of this year or Q1 or Q2 of the next.
Also keep in mind the soft economy and slow PC sales. The highest end available PCs aren't realy reflective of the current average PC in the home. Sports games, and basketball in particular, just aren't enough of a draw to push the hardware specs.

P.S. Thank Jah you didn't try to compare the PC to the PS3, that thing has a nine-freakin'-core CPU. Nine Buddah-damned core, no one even knows how to program for that. Multiply your current CPU by 8, and it still eats you alive and poops you out.

So much of this is wrong...so a few points:

You can't even compare the Xenon to a C2D because they're entirely different beasts. The Xenon is designed to run one type of code and in order only, while OoE has been around for how long in desktop processors. One has Power PC architecture, the other based on the Pentium III. Intel will not be making triple core processors and didn't make the X360 one, IBM did. Intel already has Quad Core processors you can purchase, but few if any people/companies have written code for multi-core processors, on the X360 you automatically write code for one.

The Xenos is a DX9 card, the nVidia 8x00 series are DX10. The Xenos is closer to the X1900 and X1950 than the 8800. Xenos was the first to have unified shaders, and nVidia's 8x00 series does too, and 9x00 and R600 series will be a step even further beyond Xenos.

The PS3 does not have a nine-core CPU. It has a single core processor, and six co-processors. (The seventh SPE is reserved for the OS. And the eighth is deactivated.) Only the main PPE core is comparable to a PC CPU, the others are designed to specifically handle one or two tasks maximum. They are comparable to shader units on a Graphics Card and not "more cores" as you imply. The PS3 also sports the equivalent of a 7800, not even unified shaders.

The reason the X360/PS3 and all consoles can best better specs of computers (why was the Xbox besting PCs for years despite having a 733Mhz Celeron and GeForce3?) is because they are closed, everyone has the same exact console specs, so you can write specifically for them. You don't have to worry about anti-virus, firewalls, p2p programs or even Windows running the background. No worries about what configuration the computer has, even regarding the drivers as all of them are the same.

If everyone had the same C2D, 1GB RAM, 8800 GTS and mobo (I picked mid-range items too!), with a closed operating system with the same drivers installed, then PC games would destroy the consoles, as games would be written specifically for that hardware.

That said, you can't compare the two easily. Different environments completely.

EDIT: I notice earlier in the thread your comments on the original Xbox:

To some degree yes, the original X-Box runs on Windows CE which is an extremely stripped down version of Windows 2000.

However, untill just a year and a half ago the average PC* didn't have the hardware to keep up with the X-Box**. In fact, if you check on any Oblivion message boards(a game where the pc version is a direct port of the x-box game)many people's computers still aren't even up to current-gen horsepower yet. The average PC caught up to the lesser powered PS2 less than a year after it's release.

*note: by average pc i mean the average computer most people had in their homes, not the highest-end overclocked machine available.
**keeping in mind the average PC(read above)uses a lot of it's memory and CPU running the OS, virus protection, messenger, aim, and dozens of other programs in the background. Consoles dedicate nearly all resources to gaming and just gaming.

P.S. Looking forward to seeing how you twist my words around this time.

The Xbox does not run on Windows CE, it runs on an edited version of the Windows 2000 kernal. CE is not a "stripped down version" of 2000, it was a completely different kernal. The only console to contain CE (of any form) in it was the Dreamcast, and everyone ignored using the CE stuff except homebrewers.

I see you noted that the PC has to do a lot of stuff, while consoles don't. But still think the X360/PS3's advantages are in the components?

Oblivion doesn't even exist on the Xbox, it's only on X360. And the PC version isn't really a "port" as X360 dev kits allow development for both platforms at the same time. That's why Call of Duty 2/Prey/etc. all released at the same time for both. You basically check an option that says "Windows" or "X360" in the dev kit. Besides, the 8800 GTX pretty much eats Oblivion for breakfast, especially in SLI, so true top end PCs do devour the game.

It's silly to be concerned about "the average PC" as people with the average PC don't buy games beyond Bejeweled, The Sims and things like that. Most people, if they want to play a sports game, or most console style games, play them on the console. People who actually want to play games on their PC usually go after gaming rigs, as they know they need some power to do it.

EA should bite the bullet and use the Microsoft dev kits and give us the Current Gen Live, if not this year, then next year for sure. Hell, assign one guy to build a PC frontend, port the rest, bam, done. Sell it. All you have to do is what Valve and others do and add a DX7 mode which turns off all the pretty shaders. If the card the user has cannot support them, switch to it. Also provide the frontend with all the options that are in the code to turn graphical options on and off.

I remember most of the forum having to play Live 2001 and 2003 (hell, even Live 2000!) with the crowd off and no lighting, in order to get a halfway stable framerate. It'd be no different today.

It's worth it just to phase out the old broken Last Gen version of the game.

[Bird123]

Facts.....

Nothing like a can of facts to blow a hole through the dookey that homeboy spilled up there.

[Darko_Milicic]

EA is making a living thanks to us , the fans, so they better read us and make better games, or we won't spend bucks for crap games

[NastyNacho1]

http://www.easports.com/nbalive08/

Looked at the site looks like Brian Ullrich, lead producer for NBA LIVE 08 is quite organized and looks like they are addressing a lot of issues that were pronounced in the NBA Live 07 version One of last year's features that caused the most discussion both inside EA and with you guys, was the separation of dunks and lay-ups onto two buttons. It seems like there was no middle ground on this one- some of you loved it while others really hated it. There are some good arguments on both sides, but this year we decided to put dunks and lay-ups back on one button
"We have taken a unique approach to solving this issue in LIVE 08 with the implementation of what we are calling the “featured scorer.” This logic is based on real player skills and tendencies: a player like Steve Nash is an excellent passer and known for passing first whereas Allen Iverson is a great scorer and known for being a shoot first player. Both players have prominent roles within their team’s offensive philosophy but in very different ways."

[photek]

Frankly, if they are going to release a crappy game, they better not release it at all.

As long as they are no competition I don't think they will ever be a good basketball sim on pc. Just look at soccer, since konami decided to release pro evolution soccer EA has been dramatically improving their product. Fifa 2007 was a not as good as pro but you could see the effort put behind, so if there is a market for fifa they must be one for nba.

the community is as always doing a great job but there is so much they can do, they can improve jerseys, faces, stadiums, make acurate rosters, but if the core gameplay is broken, there will only put a pretty package to an inferior product.

Ea should also put a good online feature as that is the only thing that make pc gamers buy instead of download the game, most people who buy pro evolution do it to play online.


Anyway I'm still nostalgic of nba live 2000 but now that I have a 360 with 2k and the online roster update i will only buy the game if they really put some effort in it.

[pikoy]

Hello guys hehe after few months of not posting heheh newyz


I hope the live 08 will be better compare to 07

[Retrolock]

Regardless, even if the NBA Live 08 suck monkey balls, I will still buy it. I've no choice and I dont wanna buy a console. Id rather spend the console money for pimping mah rig! lolz

[point-guard]

work for 3 weeks.part time. there you go, xbox 360 for you

[Meloforchampion]

Take a look at this..
http://www.pcgames.de/?article_id=604787

I know its german... sry if you can´t understand

So, definitly no next gen graphics on Nba Live 08´s PC version

Hope the rest will be so good i can forget about the graphics

[diddy]

and why doesnt andrew said otherwise in his interview "q&a"?

[xox]

It also says that for the 09 line-up we can expect next-gen graphics!

[CBno4]

Graphics do make a game better, but game play makes the game what it is, either crappy or good, so if they get the game play right I'm happy.