Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

[J@3]

Lol @ the phantom microphone. He looked cooler back then... but he'd never get away with a promo like that in the current WWE. It's like he's cutting a promo at an episode of Jerry Springer.

[JaoSming]

that was great

[Andrew]

Agreed, but definitely something that would only really work in an indy promotion. They could simply have him come out as a tweener and let the crowd ultimately decide, it's forcing someone as one thing or another that gets Cena such mixed reactions.

[Joe the Space Marine]

Cena is a reformed wigger. That's why people think he's a flake.

[J@3]

I think he has a bit of Rocky Maivia about him too, pretty much shoved down everyone's throats from day one. Even when he was Prototype in the OVW they were planning on mega-pushing him to god knows where. A bit like Brock Lesnar, only they did that properly.

[shadowgrin]

I love the feud/plots between Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle, not to mention their matches were good too, imo.

[Lean]

That microphone

EDIT: Punk should have just joined Spirit Squad:

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I love the feud/plots between Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle, not to mention their matches were good too, imo.

Me too, especially that Shooting Star Press from Brock in WMXIX where he landed on his neck.

I don't know if the show today on Raw would be like an opener for feuds in Night Of Champions though The (Great American) Bash comes off first. But I pick Orton, Punk, and Dreamer to win it.

[Andrew]

Lesnar's size helped him a lot as far as making a monster push look credible. Cena has a fairly prototypical pro wrestling physique but he's not the biggest guy on the roster and his current character is too corny to succeed as a face with older fans. If he were an arrogant heel, or even an arrogant face with an edge, it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

[Christian.]

Donald Trump is the new owner of RAW. Is this kayfabe?

[buzzy]

Yes, obviously.
I was right with two of three predictions, guess a Cena win would have been way too random.

[J@3]

I picked the Cena win purely because it would've made absolutely no sense at all. The Donald Trump thing is stupid and random, when are they going to stop acting like the fans believe the two "brands" are literally different companies.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's taking the idea of "anything can happen in the WWF/E" way too far, a bit too out of left field for my tastes.

[Joe the Space Marine]

Great slammiversary btw. Sting is done though. He needs to only cut promo's and not wrestle. Manager maybe.

[Lean]

Raw was on crack. Seems like the "Trump Takeover" was just randomly placed there to cut a promo on ticket refunds.

[J@3]

I read that the WWE stock prices took a hit after the "Trump buys RAW" thing because the shareholders were confused, maybe that's why they killed it early.

[Andrew]

I'd say so, apparently the SEC is getting involved which has turned the whole thing into a disaster for the WWE. The sooner they completely wash their hands of that blown angle, the better.

[shadowgrin]

I read that the WWE stock prices took a hit after the "Trump buys RAW" thing because the shareholders were confused, maybe that's why they killed it early.

I'd say so, apparently the SEC is getting involved which has turned the whole thing into a disaster for the WWE. The sooner they completely wash their hands of that blown angle, the better.

Guess they didn't think that Trump storyline properly.
Just like the WWE doesn't do storylines properly these days. Nothing new there, I guess.

[Andrew]

I don't know, HHH/Orton has been OK and Taker/HBK was great albeit short but had a great blowoff match. Celebrity angles are a bit too corny these days though so the Trump stuff was doomed from the start. He's not really a celebrity I'm interested in seeing on WWE's programming either.

[shadowgrin]

There are exceptions like the ones you mentioned but the WWE rarely gets it right, like 1/10 or 2/10 that are only interesting storylines.

[Andrew]

I don't really watch TNA but they don't seem to be doing much better with some classic Russo booking and rehashed WWF/WWE and even WCW angles.

[JaoSming]

Do you guys think the WWE could act like ECW was in the past? Have crappy storyline angles but make up for it by playing each match to the crowd and having stories where the wrestlers actually fight each night rather than run (like Orton)

[Andrew]

Possibly, though the PG approach is really hurting matches in heated feuds.

[shadowgrin]

I don't really watch TNA but they don't seem to be doing much better with some classic Russo booking and rehashed WWF/WWE and even WCW angles.

Same here. I barely watch watch any wrestling anymore.

[Lean]

Possibly, though the PG approach is really hurting matches in heated feuds.

That HHH-Orton match at Wrestlemania is a perfect example. That match was too weak after a long exchange in the feud.

[Andrew]

I don't really watch TNA but they don't seem to be doing much better with some classic Russo booking and rehashed WWF/WWE and even WCW angles.

Same here. I barely watch watch any wrestling anymore.

With Taker out, I've been watching very casually. I don't care for what they've done with the announce teams either.

Possibly, though the PG approach is really hurting matches in heated feuds.

That HHH-Orton match at Wrestlemania is a perfect example. That match was too weak after a long exchange in the feud.

And pretty much all of Extreme Rules, from what I heard.