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Postby Sauru on Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:45 pm

all i want is for all these 2k8 threads to some how merge into 1. why is it every year on a nba live forum we have to put up with endless threads about 2k8? are the people who play the 2k series to fucking stupid to find a thread and post in it? do they all have to make thier own little thread? wtf is the deal
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Postby Hot_Spitta on Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm

I aint a fanboy...im stating the obvious. I didnt say 2k was the greatest either.

Benji put it best, thanks
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Postby jonthefon on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:16 pm

Time to shut my mouth till both the games actually come out :)
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Postby shobe81 on Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:01 pm

Sauru wrote:all i want is for all these 2k8 threads to some how merge into 1. why is it every year on a nba live forum we have to put up with endless threads about 2k8? are the people who play the 2k series to fucking stupid to find a thread and post in it? do they all have to make thier own little thread? wtf is the deal


They don't read the rules or at least they don't want to follow them. I mean you cannot blame these 14yr old dummies for not following the rules.
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Postby Lamrock on Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:16 pm

shobe81 wrote:They don't read the rules or at least they don't want to follow them. I mean you cannot blame these 14yr old dummies for not following the rules.

Yes you can.
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Postby maceo24 on Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:43 am

2k has better player models, EA has better variety of models,
2k has the cloth physics down pat - EA has turned texturing into a fine art. (Faces Jerseys and Shoes look outstanding)
2k - dunk contest = yawn. Ea dunk contest = implemented better, but still... yawn.

The association was absolutely horrible to me. convoluted and slowed time between games to a crawl. Ea needs to address this too, especially the current gen versions. Its too hard to get anywhere period, let alone quickly.

This may be a return to the 04-05 era when both games were good, and it depended on the style that you liked. I dont see any game dominating the other this year. But my dark horse for this year...




Live 07 for the PC. Updated rosters! Better Textures! Bugs Fixed! And get this... Its already been released!

EA pwns again.
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New 2k8 dunk contest vid. better than the first

Postby king2k on Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:09 pm

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Postby The Other Kevin on Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:52 pm

huddy187 wrote:hammertime23, watch wut u tell me this is a family forum



What are you talking about, no its not. :lol: It's right in the fucking rules that we can curse, so shut up if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Postby king2k on Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:01 am

huddy187 wrote:2k graphics are not good richard hamilton is the same size as lebron james

u see how big prince is. 2k only have 3 body types

live have seven Live has way better presentation than 2k

2k have that ugly menu and horrible music every song

annoys me when i play the assosation mode :evil:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41QgezqqJtI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF9WhW6LHYE

No way is Hamilton and James the same size.

No way is prince bulk up in 2k7

No way are there onlu 3 body types in 2k

No way can the menu designs or the songs, or whether it has songs, matters at all when comparing.

Why annoy when playing association mode?
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Postby king2k on Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:07 am

huddy187 wrote:live wins this year

live have better dribbling this year, better go to moves,


Where is the vid that shows 2k8's dribbling sucks? 08's dribbling are identical to 2k7 dribbling. i assume 2k8 will be one step ahead.

presentation, graphics, sweat mechanics, realistic faces,
miny games, a new and improved post game and they are not even finish


We're only 60% done.

2k have the same dribbling moves, everyone can do a quick stutter step,


Vid?
there signature shots are ok but tmac doesnt shoot like that, the post game suck


Oh, in your opinion Mac's shot is off is enough to debunk the entire system when Live doesn't even have sig shots in 07 and it is not even confirm that there is sig shots in 08, if you can move pass those pre-rendered videos.

main menu is lame and i hate the soundtacks every year .there dunk contest is
a knock off lives (but they might do it better :shock: ). 2k dunks are slow


Live's dunks freezes in mid air.
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Postby Ty-Land on Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:16 pm

king2k, please refrain from double posting. It is against forum rules and it won't be accepted in future.
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Postby hammertime23 on Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:38 pm

Yeah and king2k, mr smarty pants, Live 07 does have sig shots biotch.
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Postby cheater1034 on Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:27 am

king2k wrote:
huddy187 wrote:live wins this year

live have better dribbling this year, better go to moves,


Where is the vid that shows 2k8's dribbling sucks? 08's dribbling are identical to 2k7 dribbling. i assume 2k8 will be one step ahead.


Live 08's dribbling is pretty sweet and quick strike is pretty cool (2k7 already did that but didn't have a fancy name for it though)

presentation, graphics, sweat mechanics, realistic faces,
miny games, a new and improved post game and they are not even finish


We're only 60% done.


That means they're not adding anything to the game, there's only 1.5 months left of development, no way are they going to change that much if it's only 60%. To fill the other 40%, the smallest things have to be counted as a high %, because they aren't going to make 40% of the game in the last 1.5 months of development.

Oh, in your opinion Mac's shot is off is enough to debunk the entire system Then Live doesn't even have sig shots in 07 and it is not even confirm that there is sig shots in 08, if you can move pass those pre-rendered videos.


Live does have sig shots, live 08 will too, and the videos aren't pre-rendered, you are making every excuse, those screenshots aren't pre-rendered either, live just looks better get over it, we all know that so don't argue.

There's a video of the community event and E3 of them playing the actual game live, how is that pre-rendered lol? It looks great except for the shorts (but 2k's cloth physics are over done, so I don't like them either, for example, players look like they have boners when they move, and when moving the jerseys bounce up and down which is unrealistic, they should sway realistically, and only go up when coming down from a jump)

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2k7 is better than live 07, but we don't know anything about 2k8, except the graphics aren't as good as lives, and they have a dunk contest :-p

It's impossible to develop 40% of a game in 1.5 months, so they obviously aren't adding anything big if the game is really only 60% done, it's almost time to polish it up and get ready for release.
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Postby jonthefon on Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:20 am

Damn, this thing better close before everyone goes on a "Who is better?" argument.

Just wait and see, for sakes.
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Postby king2k on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:12 am

cheater1034 wrote:
Live does have sig shots, live 08 will too, and the videos aren't pre-rendered, you are making every excuse, those screenshots aren't pre-rendered either, live just looks better get over it, we all know that so don't argue.

There's a video of the community event and E3 of them playing the actual game live, how is that pre-rendered lol? It looks great except for the shorts (but 2k's cloth physics are over done, so I don't like them either, for example, players look like they have boners when they move, and when moving the jerseys bounce up and down which is unrealistic, they should sway realistically, and only go up when coming down from a jump)

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2k7 is better than live 07, but we don't know anything about 2k8, except the graphics aren't as good as lives, and they have a dunk contest :-p

It's impossible to develop 40% of a game in 1.5 months, so they obviously aren't adding anything big if the game is really only 60% done, it's almost time to polish it up and get ready for release.


Live 07's sig shots have little difference from one superstar to another. 2k7 was miles ahead. The actual game play videos of Live 08 did not show signature shots. Only the pre-rendered ones show that it has sig shots.

You say Live's graphics are better but in fact we only have 5 screens from 2k8 and when compare to Live 08's, this is how it is:

Live 08

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2k8

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Base on those, I'd say 2k8 is again miles ahead of Live 08.

Fact is, facial features are debatable when both have it good, which they do. It is the play models, jersey motion, and animation that define the graphics of a game, which I think they is no debate who has all three key points down.


Live's screens are not pre rendered? Hmm, let's look at history, shall we?

06
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And here's other screenshots of these three previous versions of Live.

06
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08

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See the difference?


Please wait for videos before judging. I base my assumption on the fact that 2k on a year to year basis dominates Live on graphics. you base your assumption on the fact that Live has all these updates and pre rendered screens.

As for the 60% build. When 2k makes a game, it is built upon the previous version. So we already have a 100% game completed in 2k7. If we completed 60% of 2k8, then that is hell of a lot of new features, since 2k7 is the foundation. And you ain't no developer. Then do you know 2 months is not enough to complete the other 40%? And do you think 2k is so dumb that they miscalculate the timing of what can be done in a given time?
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Postby Sauru on Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:33 am

you are an idiot. why are you even on a nba live forum?
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Postby Patr1ck on Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:42 pm

The Dwayne Wade, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Gilbert Arenas pics are pre-rendered. All the other ones are in-game. The 06 D-Wade one isn't even pre-rendered, I think. I believe it's an artist's rendering.
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Postby benji on Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:02 pm

Sauru wrote:you are an idiot. why are you even on a nba live forum?

I think it's great to have a 2K developer here to bring some balance to the forums.
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Postby Ryan on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:43 am

Why would an actual developer for VC/2K come here and stick up for 2k8?
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Postby Point God on Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:51 am

stole live's dunk contest?
there were dunk contests before nba LIVE
and also, this one isnt rediculous like Live's, if you see the videos of it
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Postby Sauru on Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:06 pm

benji wrote:
Sauru wrote:you are an idiot. why are you even on a nba live forum?

I think it's great to have a 2K developer here to bring some balance to the forums.



i see your point, and i should say i am happy that some devs visit this forum and take our ideas, even if its the wrong ones :)
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Leaked NBA 2k8 vid

Postby HtownBallaADL on Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:37 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGXwb352L-E&NR=1

The foot movement is still unrealistic to me, but Lebron threw down a nice slam.
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Postby Fitzy on Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:15 pm

the foot movement looks terrible, like there playing on ice
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Postby Patr1ck on Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:29 pm

Moving screen. Most of the players are just standing around. It's only a few seconds of a drive and dunk, though. I'm not reading too much into it.

The only time it looks close to realistic is when Lebron moving in one direction. Everyone on defense is sliding.
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Postby [Q] on Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:28 pm

hard to judge anything froom a 2 sec clip like that, but honestly that gameplay looks too much like 2k7.
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