Official Milwaukee Bucks Thread

[maes]

I dont understand Yi, when Yao went to Houston there wasnt many asians at all. So i dont see why they have a problem with Milwaukee.

Houston does have a lot of asians. Outside of Hawaii/California, it's the 2nd highest Asian population after Chicago.

"Among the largest US Cities, New York had the highest number of Asians (787,047) followed by Los Angeles (369,254), San Jose (240,375), San Francisco (239,565), Honolulu (207,588), San Diego (166,968), Chicago (125,974), Houston (103,694), Fremont (75,165) and Seattle (73,910)."

The draft is the only place small market teams can get better, because free agents arent going to flock there. If now draft picks can get traded from small market teams they dont want to play in, then there is something seriously wrong with the NBA.

You've nailed why having high draft picks doesn't automatically make teams better, it's a fallacy. Because the entire Shaq-Orlando thing happens too often.

[[Q]]

hell yeah Cali holdin it down for the azns. 6/10 of the top 10 are in CA. jing how did u wind up in Mass again?

[Dean]

Stupid Question, but what was the Shaq/Orlando thing?

[Sauru]

if i recall shaq was insitant on playing in la to help his music and movie career

[-Young Buck-]

Im at the point where im saying trade Yi to the Gstate Warriors for Brandon Wright. Look, Yi doesnt want to be here, and even if he does play for us, you can expect him not to put 110% into his game playing for a team he doesnt want to play for. So why not trade him now and get Wright who has as much potential as Yi does. Just end all this crap and lets move on with our lives. Besides Yi has had a couple bad games so far against not so tough competition, trade him now before his stock really drops.

[Ty-Land]

Im at the point where im saying trade Yi to the Gstate Warriors for Brandon Wright. Look, Yi doesnt want to be here, and even if he does play for us, you can expect him not to put 110% into his game playing for a team he doesnt want to play for. So why not trade him now and get Wright who has as much potential as Yi does. Just end all this crap and lets move on with our lives. Besides Yi has had a couple bad games so far against not so tough competition, trade him now before his stock really drops.

Totally disagree. We need to make a stand for the sake of the teams reputation. Regardless of his form and trade value, we need to prevent him from being able to manipulate the draft process and undermine the Bucks and every other smaller market teams.

Furthermore, I think the Buck should be throwing Billups a 5yr/$61million contract. This would pull us in an All-Star who is one of the best PG's in the game, a top defender and somebody who can sell the team back to the casual fans. We would have to renounce Mo in this case, but could keep Bell and Ersan.

Possible rotations:

PG: Billups - Bell - Greer - Sessions
SG: Redd - Bell - Noel
SF: Simmons - CV - Ilyasova
PF: CV - Yi - Ilyasova - Markota
C: Bogut - Gadz - Yi

That is a playoff team in the East, with enough development potential to contest in a year or 2. The development of Bogut, CV, Yi, Ilyasova, Noel, Markota and Sessions, plus growing team chemistry if injuries aren't an issue could push this team to the top of the East IMHO.

Please Herb Kohl and Larry Harris, offer this to Billups. If he bites we get and All Star point who can steady this team and lead it to the playoffs, while improving the teams FA reputation and providing a win now feeling to fans and the league. If he doesn't take it, it places pressure on another conference rival.

[Dean]

You have a guy named Sessions? Awesome!

[shadowgrin]

Doobie "Sessions".

Also known as reefer madness or funny cigarretes

[[Q]]

so if Ramon Sessions married Quincy Douby's sister she'd be Douby-Sessions?

[Sauru]

Im at the point where im saying trade Yi to the Gstate Warriors for Brandon Wright. Look, Yi doesnt want to be here, and even if he does play for us, you can expect him not to put 110% into his game playing for a team he doesnt want to play for. So why not trade him now and get Wright who has as much potential as Yi does. Just end all this crap and lets move on with our lives. Besides Yi has had a couple bad games so far against not so tough competition, trade him now before his stock really drops.

Totally disagree. We need to make a stand for the sake of the teams reputation. Regardless of his form and trade value, we need to prevent him from being able to manipulate the draft process and undermine the Bucks and every other smaller market teams.

fully agree with ya here. more teams need to make a stand. besides if teams know you are trading a player cause he refuses to play they will offer you next to nothing for the player anyway.

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I'm watching the China/Memphis Summerleague game, and you can really see how talented he is. I hope for you guys sake he stays and plays for the team that drafted him, just like everyone else.

He had a play a moment ago where he swatted a shot back towards half court, ran the floor and got a strong dunk + foul at the other end on two players.

I love Rudy Gay and think he's gonna be a big, big time player, but I gotta say Yi is looking just as impressive. The only place Yi hasn't scored from is from the three, but he hasn't even shot one yet. Fallaways, dunks, spin moves, hook shots... you name it.

[mvpshaq32]

I swear the NBA broadcast is stupid.
I can't get the webcast in my area and I really want to watch Yi play. Anyone got another site to watch the summerleague?

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http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nb ... 051201.asx

Copy that link, open WMP and go File > Open URL. Paste the link and wait for it to buffer.

[-Young Buck-]

Yeah i read he had a monster dunk on Gay. I hope he plays for us.

In other news Billups agreed to a deal with Pistons, so forget that.

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He had some nice dunks, but Gay went baseline, 180 jump hop, 180 dunk right on Yi's face. Rudy had like 5 or 6 crazy dunks in that game.

Seriously though, of all the rookies so far, Yi has been the most impressive. I watched all of todays games and Kevin and Greg struggled. Mike Conley played pretty well but he's still adjusting. No other rookies spring to mind as "impressive".

Yi looks like he can have whatever shot he wants. From this one game I've seen of him, I saw Amare Stoudemire with a better jumpshot and better ballhandling ability. He doesn't have the shotblocking, power or post dominance that Amare has, but they looked pretty similar.

[1CenT]

He had some nice dunks, but Gay went baseline, 180 jump hop, 180 dunk right on Yi's face. Rudy had like 5 or 6 crazy dunks in that game.

Seriously though, of all the rookies so far, Yi has been the most impressive. I watched all of todays games and Kevin and Greg struggled. Mike Conley played pretty well but he's still adjusting. No other rookies spring to mind as "impressive".

Yi looks like he can have whatever shot he wants. From this one game I've seen of him, I saw Amare Stoudemire with a better jumpshot and better ballhandling ability. He doesn't have the shotblocking, power or post dominance that Amare has, but they looked pretty similar.

He was quite impressive in the post... hes really agile.. once he gets comfortable and gain another like 10-20 pounds of upper body strength.. he can be quite a beast offensively....

Reminds me of a raw Garnett offensively... Defensively, he needs a lot of work, he just doesn't know how to defend , i see him try to stay infront of a guy but then he doesn't use his length to bother their shots ... he fouls with his body a lot...

Rebounding wise.. he reminds me a little bit of Yao Ming.. which is not good..

I am sure the 20pounds of muscle will help him out... which he will definitely gain in the next 2-3 years..

I think he'll have a Bargnani like season.. but he doesn't really shoot the 3 pointers.. he likes to work within 20 feet..

[-Young Buck-]

Heat coach Pat Riley made a late-night recruiting pitch Saturday -- wining and dining free agent Mo Williams -- in an attempt to land the most coveted point guard remaining on the market. Williams toured the Heat's facilities at AmericanAirlines Arena and ended his daylong visit by dining with Riley at a South Beach restaurant late Saturday. Miami Herald

Great. What if he ends up signing there? I could see how he would take less money to play for a championship team, even start for it. Then the bucks would have to sign someone like Blake, or Boykins maybe.

[Ty-Land]

Well he is restricted so we can match the offer. They can only offer the MLE, so we can offer much more if we need to.

I'm more concerned that we might lose Bell and Mo, then we would be screwed. Have to go after Brevin Knight perhaps.

Honestly I think Mo will stay with us if the offer is right. We gave him his chance, and he would start here on an up and coming team for years. With Bell, I think somebody like the Lakers or Heat might offer the full MLE to him, then it is costly to keep him but necessary in my view.

Ersan has got some big offers from Euro clubs, so he might play there for a year or 2 while we retain his rights. I hope we keep him though, as he has a lot of potential, is only 20 years old and has put on a lot muscle this off season. I would keep Ersan over Bell. We can get him minutes too, as he could back up Simmons at the 3 and play the 4 behind CV and Yi when needed.

David Stern has apparently got involved in the whole Yi saga, wanting an end to the rookies stand-off (well his representatives stand off) with the Bucks according to Sports Illustrated. Hopefully he will visit the town at the end of the Summer League and will sign shortly after. Either way his reputation and that of his agents is being trashed in china, with several articles being published displaying their disgust towards t what has occurred.

[-Young Buck-]

If we can match any offer then let mo sign the contract and we can match it which would be cheaper then if we gave him a deal, no?

[Jing]

hell yeah Cali holdin it down for the azns. 6/10 of the top 10 are in CA. jing how did u wind up in Mass again?

There are a good amount of asians in Boston

I was in Boston this past week and everywhere I looked I saw some asians

[-Young Buck-]

Mo williams is unrestricted free agent, thats what it says at nba.com. If he walks we should just resign Steve Blake. He is more of the point guard we need. Not someone who is going to jack up shots. Or get someone who can dish the ball, cos the other 4 positions will have a player who can score, we just need a steve nash type style of a player to get them the ball. We could maybe even sway Jalen Rose to sign with us and play PG.

[Matthew]

hell yeah Cali holdin it down for the azns. 6/10 of the top 10 are in CA. jing how did u wind up in Mass again?

There are a good amount of asians in Boston

I was in Boston this past week and everyone I looked I saw some asians

Wow interesting.

[Ty-Land]

Mo williams is unrestricted free agent, thats what it says at nba.com. If he walks we should just resign Steve Blake. He is more of the point guard we need. Not someone who is going to jack up shots. Or get someone who can dish the ball, cos the other 4 positions will have a player who can score, we just need a steve nash type style of a player to get them the ball. We could maybe even sway Jalen Rose to sign with us and play PG.

No way Steve Blake comes back. He hated playing in Milwaukee. He would take less money to play anywhere else.

If we lose Mo we must sign Bell, maybe a 4 year deal at $6 million per year. We could also try and sign Brevin Knight, who has played for the Bucks before.

Bell could start and provide a solid defensive presence, then we would have Greer and Sessions on the bench. Not a super strong line-up but it would have to do. Worst case scenario we trade Yi or CV for a point guard. If we don't resign Mo, we could make an offer to Darko, which would give us trade flexibility.

[-Young Buck-]

Here is a nice article that i agree with. This guy needs to stop making the decissions for Yi and let him play for the team he was drafted by. Im sure he might not like the low asian population, but this is a job, not some vacation. From what i hear it doesnt sound like Yi is against it anyway. It would be nice for him to sign and play for us. I would be so excited to see his first home game, might even go see it live.

Chinese fans are urging Yi Jianlian to sign with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Drafted two weeks ago by the Bucks, Yi has declined to talk about the prospect of signing in Milwaukee. His agent, Dan Fegan, has pushed for a trade and wants Yi in a city with a large Asian influence; Yi's handlers did not allow the Bucks to watch him participate in a predraft workout in Los Angeles. But Bucks general manager Larry Harris said before the draft that he planned to take the best player available and told Fegan he would not shy away from Yi, even though Milwaukee has only about 1,200 Chinese residents.

"Fegan will hamper Yi's future," former national team coach Qian Chenghai was quoted as saying in Tuesday's edition of the state-run China Daily newspaper. "I don't think Yi refused to join the Bucks, it is Fegan who doesn't want him to join.

"We don't want to see Yi destroy his reputation in the NBA and return to the Chinese Basketball Association. That's horrible," the coach said.

Results of an online poll published in China Daily showed 68 percent of 9,000 respondents want Yi to play for the Bucks.

"Yi, stand up and speak for yourself," China Daily said, citing an article in the Beijing Evening Post. "Don't hesitate anymore and don't let anybody control your life."

Yi, the sixth player picked overall in the draft, Harris and Bucks coach Larry Krystkowiak met for about an hour at a hotel in Las Vegas, where Yi is playing in the NBA's Summer League, last Thursday to get to know the 6-foot-11 power forward and begin lobbying him to sign with the team.

Yi has not visited Milwaukee. In Dallas, where the Chinese National Team played a series of exhibitions last week, he declined to talk about the draft or even the prospect of playing for the Bucks.

In the meantime, Bucks owner and Sen. Herb Kohl has written a letter to Yi, which was delivered by Harris on Thursday, to establish a dialogue with the star.

"We'll see what happens," Kohl said last week. "We're all in the process of reaching out to try and establish a constructive dialogue with him and his family and representatives."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2931813

[Sauru]

you know is yi signs with the bucks and turns into a great player, constant deserving all star and helps milwaukee get deep into the playoffs i will forever be haunted by the ray allen trade.