NBA Live Bug Fix Petition (Submitted)

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NBA Live Bug Fix Petition (Submitted)

Postby cyanide on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:28 pm

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Attention!
As of 10/02/06 at 5:14pm MST, we currently have 315 signatures!

The petition has now been sent to Andrew to be forwarded to EA Sports. Hopefully we will hear something back from them. I appreciate all of your support and contributions. What we have achieved as a community far outweighs what any individual could have done to make a change. Thank you.

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Thanks to a few inspirational members here, -YoungBuck-, ignatu, and others, I decided to take incentive to create a thread to push EA to actually create a patch. Every year since Live 2000, we see a minor or major issue that really hinders gameplay. It makes no sense to release a product every year that goes backwards on some areas. Also to mention are that several people on the board, including myself, are unwilling to buy the game until the above bugs are fixed. Some who have already purchased the game has either returned it or stated it is their last Live purchase. For the sake of keeping consumers happy and save the reputation of EA Sports among the NBA Live PC community - a loyal and passionate following for many years who doesn't deserve a shoddy product - a bug fix should be released for the following:


Major Issues - Top Priority
  • Teams don't sub normally for both human and CPU. Players only leave if there is foul trouble, and often do not come back for an extended period of time. Fatigue does not affect substitutions, and it was reported that a starter that is exhausted but not in foul trouble will be sent back into the game if an attempt to bench him was made.
  • Add sliders for Fatigue and CPU Substitution Frequency
  • Provide alternative shorter seasons rather than only full 82 game seasons similar to previous years' versions
  • Point guard takes too many shots/scores too often; primacy issue? It was reported that the point guard does not fatigue compared to all the other players.
  • When ending a matchup by clicking on 'Quit Game' rather than returning to the main menu, it literally exits the game. [Both EA Downloader and PC-DVD version]
  • Save stats button (especially for online leagues)

Significant Issues
  • The small square not disappearing when hiding the menu in instant replay mode
  • After calling a play, there's an inability to see where to set up plays
  • Direct pass position assignment not correctly mapped to gamepad. ie: dunk label appears over player, pressing the dunk button will pass to a player with the lay-up label.
  • If locked as a player, the CPU does not auto inbound. Inbounds are only done if one presses the pass button. This is a significant gameplay issue if one is locked as a power forward or center.
  • While using direct pass, player lock or off ball mode is enabled without clicking on the right analog stick (Thrustmaster & Logitech controllers)
  • No option to turn the stamina bar on in direct IP mode
  • Can't access PDA during trade player phase unless you get a new message
  • With two players on the same team using player lock for both, one of the players will frequently lose the ability to play
  • Most often, defense are not aware of the opposing team's SG and SF on the transition. Momentarily, they will be wide open for long jumpers.
  • Pressing the direct pass does not automatically switch to the player closest to the basket. The manual falsely states otherwise.
  • When starting a dynasty, detail settings cannot be changed.

Minor Issues
  • Add missing key players (see list below in thread)
  • Add missing jerseys and replace incorrect courts (Toronto Raptors)
  • Incorrect head textures
  • If one gets blocked, the layup/dunk will count as 0/2 FG
  • A deflected pass counts as a turnover
  • There are no averages at the Team Stats screen
  • Occasionally, the CPU player dribbles until time winds down in non-clutch situations
  • Some settings like preferences are set to default each time you load the game
  • Can't release players during the FA negotiation period
  • Players occasionally warp (disappear then re-appear)
  • Jab steps (and other pivot moves) triggers a freestyle move (ie: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lSpGmbZloPY)
  • Camera zoom levels are never saved, it resets to default after quitting a game
  • Occasionally, when the center or power forward inbounds the ball after opposition scored, switching to an off-ball player other than the PG resulted in the C/PF holding the ball and not passing it to the active player (5-second violation)
  • There are "six" starters on the International team
  • A player retires at age 57 after playing only one year in the league [screenshot]
  • Rasheed Wallace and Pau Gasol cannot dunk, literally.
  • When a player blocks a jumper rather than a dunk or layup, the block will not count.
  • Three pointers either count a feet away from the line in a certain area or on the line in a different area.
  • Sometimes on a score and foul, the basket doesn't count, but the player shoots only one free throw.
  • Notifications for injuries or fouls occasionally does not show up.
  • Player textures are shown significantly different in the game and in the player edit screen.
  • The instant replay cuts off every time a player inbounds the ball, missing the finishing play.
  • Players have jumped 15 feet in the air.
  • Starters are occasionally benched prior to the start of a game.



The above list will expand with more legit and confirmed issues provided. Please let me know if you feel any bugs/flaws should be placed higher or lower in the priority sequence.

I know we have a wishlist, but really, nobody's going to be happy waiting a whole year for the next fix, and none of these fixes are guaranteed. This is something small that can be easily accessible to EA Sports staff, and hopefully Andrew will suggest this thread to create a call to action to something we need: a patch.

The more voice we have for change, the greater the chances that EA's going to do something about it, so your contributions are appreciated.
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Postby gobulls on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:29 pm

gl with this (Y)
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:30 pm

sweet, here is a picture of

- The square in the instant replay mode will dissapear when you hide the bottom menu
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- The bench actually sits on the chairs and not air, or other players

usually when you hide the bottom menu it would dissapear also, so you could take screens and video without that square on the court.


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Postby bigh0rt on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:31 pm

When I hid the screen, that square did disappear for me. Weird.
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Postby cam on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:34 pm

I think EA would only consider doing something like this for major flaws, such as the substitution problem. If you were to send an email that contained items like:

- The square in the instant replay mode will dissapear when you hide the bottom menu
- Add Garbajosa to the roster (he was signed before the cut-off date)

and to a lesser extent:

- Add missing jerseys and fix incorrect courts
- The bench actually sits on the chairs and not air, or other players

This proposed 'patch request' would appear more like a wishlist of less significant flaws that people could work around.

So I suggest sticking to major problems only that affect gameplay dramatically or can't be solved through patching.

The only problem so far that largely affects gameplay is the CPU substitution bug.
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Postby cyanide on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:38 pm

^ You're right, I'll stick to the more important things rather than minor bugs. Missing things, like jerseys or players, I'd consider a factor on gameplay one wants to play like the real-life counterparts. Keeping it simpler would be a lot nicer, though.
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Postby Jumpman2315 on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:43 pm

here's something that i think is a major bug: not being able to see where to set up plays that you call. i remember in live 06 that when you call a play, you can press the right stick in and an indicator will show up on the floor where the PG should stand to initiate the play. right now, this feature is NOT in live 07 which boggles my mind.
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:43 pm

well to me the square in the instant replay is a big issue. I like to do movies and screens, and if its there its an eyesoar. It shouldnt be that hard to remove, they removed alot of other things.

Jumpman2315 wrote:here's something that i think is a major bug: not being able to see where to set up plays that you call. i remember in live 06 that when you call a play, you can press the right stick in and an indicator will show up on the floor where the PG should stand to initiate the play. right now, this feature is NOT in live 07 which boggles my mind.


Good call, i miss this too :(
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Postby Cable on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:03 pm

We know EA reads these boards, so let's hope they see this. If the major bugs don't get fixed, I don't know if I'll buy the game or not. Those bugs are pathetic. (N)
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Postby --- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:10 pm

How about the 82 game season problem?

EA, I hope your reading this... Instead of hyping everyone up every year saying this is the best basketball game, make it so you can play basketball first and foremost. Absolutely useless.......
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Postby joejam999 on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:14 pm

cam wrote:I think EA would only consider doing something like this for major flaws, such as the substitution problem. If you were to send an email that contained items like:

- The square in the instant replay mode will dissapear when you hide the bottom menu
- Add Garbajosa to the roster (he was signed before the cut-off date)

and to a lesser extent:

- Add missing jerseys and fix incorrect courts
- The bench actually sits on the chairs and not air, or other players

This proposed 'patch request' would appear more like a wishlist of less significant flaws that people could work around.

So I suggest sticking to major problems only that affect gameplay dramatically or can't be solved through patching.

The only problem so far that largely affects gameplay is the CPU substitution bug.


Good post. I dont think we should flood them with little things but that square is kind of anoying while trying to take screens. Dont put anything about Sig shoots or they might throw it out the window.
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Postby SAMutei on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:22 pm

Cable wrote:We know EA reads these boards, so let's hope they see this. If the major bugs don't get fixed, I don't know if I'll buy the game or not. Those bugs are pathetic. (N)


right Cable! i don't have the game yet and when i see all these bugs i don't think i will buy it!
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Postby Crystallas on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:23 pm

I was adding Thabo and Marty to the Bulls roster. I noticed that I couldnt put Switzerland for Thabo Sefolosha because it was 1 letter to long. I hope they can fix that.
And Martynas Andriuskevicius might be a long name to add. But how many people create their own players, including themselves, then cant use their own names because of it? I remember last year I couldnt make myself because my first name is Christopher. How can Christopher be to long for a created player, its a common name? My own situation isnt bad as other names because I can shorten my name and it remains proffessional but I'd like for them to try to atleast fix these things. If not 07 patch, 08 for sure.

PLEASE add official support for the xbox360 controller. This is the #1 selling PC controller now. Madden 07 supported it flawlessly, and I think NBAL07 should incorperate it. It takes to long to configure a controller to play just right, and when people play on multiplatforms, it would be nice to have the standard setup ready, so you can transend. Allready its becoming an issue on the official board.
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Postby joejam999 on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:32 pm

Crystallas wrote:PLEASE add official support for the xbox360 controller. This is the #1 selling PC controller now. Madden 07 supported it flawlessly, and I think NBAL07 should incorperate it. It takes to long to configure a controller to play just right, and when people play on multiplatforms, it would be nice to have the standard setup ready, so you can transend. Allready its becoming an issue on the official board.


You dont like setting your own buttons?
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:39 pm

joejam999 wrote:
Crystallas wrote:PLEASE add official support for the xbox360 controller. This is the #1 selling PC controller now. Madden 07 supported it flawlessly, and I think NBAL07 should incorperate it. It takes to long to configure a controller to play just right, and when people play on multiplatforms, it would be nice to have the standard setup ready, so you can transend. Allready its becoming an issue on the official board.


You dont like setting your own buttons?


i did it, took like 2 minutes.
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Postby Crystallas on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:01 pm

Where did you get the default settings for the xbox360 release? I can play with my own configuration, but I cant find the map anywhere online, not even on EAs site.
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Postby Patr1ck on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:10 pm

- The square in the instant replay mode will dissapear when you hide the bottom menu


I think you worded that wrong, but I understand because I saw that bug posted. The square disappearing when you hide the menu is what you want, and the bug is the square not disappearing when you hide the menu. I can always do a patch that gets rid of the square permanently. :D

Hey, even though a patch is sort of a wishlist and we want to concentrate on the more important bugs, how bout getting those xbox jersey textures for pc. :) I'm all for signing a patch petition. Getting to them as quick as possible about the bugs with alot of people copmlaining and asking for a fix should influence them to create a patch.
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:15 pm

Crystallas wrote:Where did you get the default settings for the xbox360 release? I can play with my own configuration, but I cant find the map anywhere online, not even on EAs site.


are you talking to me? I just set the buttons to what i wanted.
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Postby Crystallas on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:19 pm

-Young Buck- wrote:
Crystallas wrote:Where did you get the default settings for the xbox360 release? I can play with my own configuration, but I cant find the map anywhere online, not even on EAs site.


are you talking to me? I just set the buttons to what i wanted.
Yeah, can you set the LT and RT buttons? Because with 3rd party drivers, and the latest official drivers, the LT and RT are useless in 07, aswell as the 2nd analog stick's axis being mapped as 2 buttons for freestyle.
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Postby Donatello on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:21 pm

:arrow: Allow shorter seasons in dynasty mode, instead of just the 82-game season.
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Postby Crystallas on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:26 pm

Allow users to change detail settings while in season and dynasty. Makes it much easier for those who hook up their PCs to their TV.
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:27 pm

Crystallas wrote:
-Young Buck- wrote:
Crystallas wrote:Where did you get the default settings for the xbox360 release? I can play with my own configuration, but I cant find the map anywhere online, not even on EAs site.


are you talking to me? I just set the buttons to what i wanted.
Yeah, can you set the LT and RT buttons? Because with 3rd party drivers, and the latest official drivers, the LT and RT are useless in 07, aswell as the 2nd analog stick's axis being mapped as 2 buttons for freestyle.



http://xbcd360guide.50webs.com/guide.html

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Postby Crystallas on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:31 pm

Nice link. Thanks a lot. I didnt have any issues with other games mapping the buttons, but I might in the future.
I still think it should be officially supported.
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Postby joejam999 on Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:48 pm

Someone said they fixed the 360 controller for 07?
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Postby [L3]1101 on Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:04 pm

I just realized that there's a forum for LIVE 07 on EA's website. We should also go and start complain there
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