by hedop on Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:45 pm
I totally agree. Personally I do not get why they have to bring VC into this. You have live training with several challenges. Midrange shooting, Dribbling, Vertical, Strength etc. Why not use that to collect training progress in specific areas, earn the same progress for in game action and then simply level up those stats? Why exactly is VC necessary in a 50 Bucks game? Why does your apparently highly touted player start out at a 55/56 lower worse than the worst free agent? Why not start out with a modest 68/69 like Justice, your partner once your turn pro? That is a decent starting point.
If you'd actually include a full college season with regular practice (which is twice a day) you'd end up with 30 games or so running from November until March and another possible 5 games or so running from March until April. If you include a couple of early season tournaments you might get up to 40 games before March Madness. Share that out over those 4 months and you get about 10 games per month or one game every 3 days. Have two team practices per day when you aren't playing and the possibility of an open gym or weight room like they do now. That's 120 days, if you have no practice on game it leaves you with around 80 days. That is a possible 240 practices. If you say you have to get gold 2 times, silver 4 times or bronze 6 times to get a +1 in any one category you could possibly grind yourself to death and get to be a 99 but more likely you would limit the practice each day with progressive fatigue and set the limit at say 5 exercises per training. That is a possible 1200 exercises. Even if you get gold in all exercises the maximum number of points you could gain is 600 and that is if you really grind it. There are a possible 47 categories in which to improve your player. Even if you start at a 70 on average, meaning in every single stat, you'd need 1.410 points to get 100 in all categories. That would mean more than 2.500 exercises all with gold. Even a dedicated player would need weeks to get there. But you would feel like a stud because no one could buy their way there and if the system is well setup nobody could cheat their way there either. Plus you would start at a decent rating, where you are actually able to do stuff on the court.
If that isn't hard enough for you you could easily keep the archetypes into place but allow for upgrades over your max. It would simply get harder. Say you have a maximum of 20 on your rebounding. To get to 40 you'd need 4 gold exercises. To get to 60 8 gold exercises per point and so on. You would be able to form a complete player but it would take hard work and dedication and immense grinding but you could rightly claim your player to be one of a kind because you yourself made him to your absolute liking and it would also accurately portrait how hard improvement in certain areas is for players who have to struggle against their natural limitations.
Where I would allow VC would be for MyPark. I think you should be able to earn it there, maybe even wager it there to by stuff that is strictly for MyPark or MyTeam. I would completely ban VC from MyGM and every other mode as well. Clothes and stuff for your MyCareer should be bought with ingame currency by which I mean what you earn through your contract. Want a flashy wardrobe? It'll cost you several thousand dollars. Want that fancy car for the cutscenes? Want that fancy flat? Want that fancy remodelling of your court? Want a personal trainer? Sure enough but you pay for it with your contract money or endorsement money. You can donate part of your wage for good causes, build basketball courts for kids or renovate schools etc.
That would be my idea of a good career mode. You earn your skills through practice, which will make you better at the game itself as well and you can buy what you want if you have the money for it but it might effect how fans view you if you piss away your money on clothes, cars and what not and don't give to charity or live paycheck to paycheck even as a millionaire.
I would also strongly recommend that 2k should stop milking us. MLB the Show and even Madden had the possibility to continue playing your career and franchise mode on a new version of the game for ages. I also don't see why we lose the VC we earned in 2k15 and 2k16? How is that VC different? All that does is piss people off because you spend another 6 months grinding away when they have already stopped investing anything into the game. Why do I, as a return customer, not get to enjoy the benefits of being faithful and continuing to support their game? I own every version of the game since 2k11 on PC. Since 2k15 we have had VC and I don't see why, if they won't give return customers a discount, they can't at least transfer our VC over from previous games. Even Fifa always offers a small discount for people who own the previous version or versions.
That is why for me, the concept of VC is ridiculous. It let's people pay 25 Bucks to get several thousand of them and then condemn people who have been playing the game for nearly a decade because we finally have had it with grinding our brains out for hundreds of hours while some other people just pay to be good. I am saddened that 2k has taken enough interest to close one of the nicest loopholes for cheat engine, which let you buy upgrades for 0 VC. I am saddened especially because the grind is unrewarding. Yesterday I played MyCareer with my 65 rated Smallforward. I played on HOF, played very well, managed to get an A+ team grade against the Cavaliers and ended up with 15 points, 7 assists and 8 rebounds in around 16 minutes. With a player like mine, in that time, on that difficulty, against this opponent I thought for sure I would end up with 2000 VC or something akin to that.... well I got around 165 VC for my numbers, 500 VC for my Teamgrade which both was doubled because of HOF so that came to around 1330 VC plus sensational 250 VC for playing against the Cavs. Wow I thought... I played like a maniac with a severely underrated player on HOF and come out with 1580 VC... Just to be clear... at that pace I will have to play at least 200 games to actually earn enough VC to upgrade one career fully (which probably won't be the one I'm currently playing. I won't invest a dime into it because it would be utterly pointless). 200 games of MyCareer on HoF at 12 minutes a quarter... that's around 6000 minutes or 100 hours... 100 hours just to get enough VC to upgrade my player to a possible 90+... that does not include dunk packages, jumpshots, animations (all of which you have to buy again and again and again for each and every career) or some cosmetic makeup in terms of clothes or tattoos... that is just the player because they calculated a full upgrade to around 247.120 VC or more than 50 Bucks in money. Again: that does not include Badges, Animations or anything relevant other than skill upgrades. I'll say it again: 247.120 VC. You gotta be kidding right? Even at 2.000 VC a game... which you will probably only earn by scoring 200 points a game or some shite, you'd need to play 123 games... and not spend any.
So seriously? People say people like me break the game because I don't want to spend that much fucking time to actually enjoy a game I paid 50 Bucks for? Or people saying: Play Myleague with player lock? No... honestly give me an offline MyCareer. I don't need the park. I don't want the park. I don't even need ProAM. I want to enjoy my single player experience I paid for. But I can't. I'd happily play offline and cheat away... but what is the point? I can get clothes or animations. If I could buy the animations and keep them for the next player, like clothes, that might make a difference but I can't. I'd have to buy them again and you can't buy any offline. Why? What reason could there be for that?
Sorry if this post got out of hand. It's just annoying as hell to read people claiming we ruin their gaming experience. Well 2k ruined mine. I want to just play MyCareer in peace with the full experience. I don't want all that connectivity crap and I don't want to grind. I grind on MyGM by rebuilding shitty teams from nothing. On MyCareer I want to be the baddest Mofo out there and the highest touted draft pick in the history of the NBA. So for my sake and all of the other player's sake who are sore from being beaten up for their money every year by the bullies at 2k Sports I do hope Veryan or some other gifted Cracker or MrAntifun or whoever really finds a way to get us cheap upgrades back.
