Survey reveals disturbing results

Disturbing attitudes to violence against women uncovered in White Ribbon Foundation survey

Key points:

The unprecedented survey of violence and attitudes shows one third of boys believe "it's not a big deal to hit a girl". One in seven thought "it's OK to make a girl have sex with you if she was flirting".

The survey also shows one in four teenagers lives with violence at home, prompting calls for domestic violence education programs in schools.

The study, which reviewed data from the past seven years, including a survey of 5000 12 to 20-year-olds, found up to 350,000 girls aged between 12 and 20 – one in seven – had experienced sexual assault or rape.

Almost one third of girls in Year 10 had experienced unwanted sex.

The attitude towards violence against women is a bit surprising given how they've been running the "Australia Says No" campaigns for the last couple of years. I guess they've been going over the heads of a lot of teenage boys which is unfortunate. One in four teenages living with violence at home is a disturbing high amount as well, that figure might not reflect all parts of Australia but in any case it's a rather worrying result.

The number of women found to have been sexually assaulted or raped is truly disturbing though, frankly one in a hundred is despeciable enough but one in seven is sickening. As for the survey of Year 10 girls, one third being subjected to unwanted sex is astounding, though I guess it depends on what they mean by unwanted sex, ie whether they're simply talking rape or they're including sex that was reluctantly consented to but still unwanted.

Obviously it's something that needs to be stressed a little more in sex ed. It's all very well and good to preach abstinence or teach kids to use condoms and the dangers of unwanted pregnancy and STDs and all that, but it sounds like a lot of kids need to learn "no means no" and that violence against women isn't on.

Interesting read. I would've replied sooner, but I don't like the forum looks as of now, hence the lack of posting. (Maybe a blessing?)

Anyways, on to the topic...

What I find interesting is womens behaviour regarding sex and violence these days. I know this girl, she's 19 now, but I met her around two years ago, she was 17 and I was 19. Anyways...she was "dating" this guy, but she wasn't in love with him, she didn't even like him. So naturally I asked, why were you with him? Her response was that everyone else had someone, so she had to have someone too. All right.

One night we're having a conversation and she tells me she was raped. So I'm all inquisitive as to who did it and that she should report it and blah blah blah. She's very nonchalant about it, laughs it off..."yeah, they were holding my arms, how was I supposed to do anything?" "It's no big deal and I don't remember much of it anyways." O.kay.

Anyways, I am a guy and this chick is fucking hot...so I continue talking to her. She breaks up with guy A and starts dating guy B. She claims to be totally in love with guy B by the way. He's her "one". Then I get pictures of her in lingerie and what not. But she's still with "the one". Okay. This chicks been naked on webcam so many times, it's unbelievable. Not that I'm complaining, she's got a great figure and a rack I'd love to be buried in. But that's me talking as a sexually oriented male. If you just take a break and think...she's in love with this guy, he's the one and all that shit...but she's getting all hot and naked for me? The fuck is wrong with that picture?

Okay, time moves on and she finds out he's cheating on her with like three different girls. She's hurt. Okay? Not like you're not being a damn skank yourself.

To top it all off, I was watching this semi-documentary about youth & sex. This 13 year old girl admits to having sex with an 18 year old guy, the parents of the girl know this. The reporter asks what the mom's reaction was and the mom goes it's no big deal, we're very open about sex in the house so I took her and got her on the pill. The reporter is like...she's 13, she's underage, the guy could go to jail, weren't you mad? No...weren't you shocked? The mom says no, she said she loved the boy, so I don't see any problem with it.

Now excuse me for being maybe old or just plain dumb, but what the fuck...? When did the world become all right with stuff like this, which a few years ago would've been met with shocked reactions? It's okay to hold a girls arms behind her back while your friend fucks her while being intoxicated? It's okay that they did it because you don't remember much of it? It's okay to let your daughter have sex with an 18 year old because she said she loved him? She's 13, the fuck does she know about love?

One side of me feels this way though, the other side, the more guy and asshole side (which usually prevails) would just have sex with the 19 year old girl solely based on her rack. But anyways, when a girls own mindset is at such a low level, that just stops being attractive anymore.

I'm sure I was going to make a point when I started this post...but it became more of a post full of gibberish. But good article, nice to see the world is going to shit in every conceivable aspect. Always a good reminder.

Okay, time moves on and she finds out he's cheating on her with like three different girls. She's hurt. Okay? Not like you're not being a damn skank yourself.

Her boyfriend must've been Beau_boy

Anyway, I think this is really unacceptable. Girls here have sex at 14 'cause they think they're "cool" and brag about it. But parents still freak out. Litteraly FREAK OUT.
That guy who had sex with the 13yo should be found and arrested for pedofiliy. Pedofilies are the worst, can't get a girl their age, so they have to pick on the younger. What's wrong with'em? Why do they prefer that flat-chest over a nice rack of C's? Man, they are sick.

Well no, the girl in question didn't really look 13, and no, the parents didnt freak out.

I'm going to look for that interview...which is in dutch but maybe I get lucky with subs.

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DEN HAAG - Minister Rouvoet (Youth and Family) wants a public debate on in his eyes' rampage sex morals of youth. " That, he said Monday in an interview with the AD.

"A girl is seen as an article and use sex as a bargaining chip. The concept of love plays in these young people no longer. "Rouvoet stressed no legal measures to require, but want a broad debate. "This is more than an education problem, it is a social problem."

The minister made the statements following the documentary Sex Sells, who last week on the television show was. It tell young people include sex as a bargaining chip.

"If the mentality among young people is that you go to a garage and arrested a girl as you want in sex, then it disappears every normal sight on relationships? Many children have a skewed perception of sex, friendships and relationships. And that can not have healthy influence on society ", the minister.

"With 85 percent of the children is good, but if you look at the remaining 15 percent, you still have a lot of children with behavior problems."

According Rouvoet is there a generation at stake. " "This is not about minutiae, it's really a very serious concern. And not only in the Bijlmer. Many parents often do not even know what their children are all involved. "

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The attitude towards violence against women is a bit surprising given how they've been running the "Australia Says No" campaigns for the last couple of years.

Is it really?

The attitude towards violence against women is a bit surprising given how they've been running the "Australia Says No" campaigns for the last couple of years.

Is it really?

Well, I find it surprising anyway. I would have thought with the campaign plus what's being taught in schools on the subject (which I'd say is the same stuff that was taught to me when I was at school), the youth of Australia is better educated than that when it comes to violence against women. Those figures suggest otherwise.

The attitude towards violence against women is a bit surprising given how they've been running the "Australia Says No" campaigns for the last couple of years.

Is it really?

Well, I find it surprising anyway. I would have thought with the campaign plus what's being taught in schools on the subject (which I'd say is the same stuff that was taught to me when I was at school), the youth of Australia is better educated than that when it comes to violence against women. Those figures suggest otherwise.

Really? I'm about the same age as you, and i dont remember any of that stuff being taught in school. And the Australia says no campaign has been dormant for a couple of years now, at least it has in Melbourne. It is a frightening stat though. I blame Wayne Carey.

Well, it's definitely not taught as its own module in PE/PD/Health class but I seem to remember it being touched upon, certainly the whole "No means no" thing. I still see ads for the "Australia Says No campaign", though probably not as many in the last twelve months come to think of it.