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Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:19 pm

Punisher.

Andrew wrote:"looking cool"

"And he's in black - always chic" - Joker in Justice League (TV)

Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:24 pm

I'm not really familiar with The Punisher but from what I've read about the character he's more of an anti-hero with his costume reflecting a darker persona.

Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:51 pm

Batman, pre- and post-Adam-We-era-camp, is absolutely an anti-hero. Especially by the traditional definition. He's a vigilante. He operates outside and against the law and its means of enforcement. He's a brooding billionaire who cannot form meaningful relationships with people who aren't his butler, orphens and other people who dress like mammels. He trusts no one and makes plans to kill his "friends." The Superman/Batman series emphasizes the first point in comparison to Supermans' heroic quality of trusting that everyone is good and being disappointed by those like Luthor who aren't.

Especially the modern Batman that has appeared since the death of Jason Todd. Especially in the early stages of "No Man's Land" and in the wake of "Hush" and "War Crimes." That was the remarkable thing about the popular contempt and hatred towards AzBats. All those people came in after Knightfall with really only ties to the films or TV shows. They were completely put off with Jean Paul, when the guy was only slightly more uncompromising than Bruce. (Ignoring his insanity.)
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