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Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:29 pm
guys. i've got a question: could nonamerican team join the NBA? i mean for example Moscov CSKA - champs of euroleague and clippers bitters this summer! their record for now at euroleague is 11(wins)-1(loss) ?? could they or not?!
Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:46 pm
it's possible, but goddamn the travel bak and forth would be brutal. no way that would work logistically unless they played in Alaska or something
Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:17 pm
I think earlier there was a thread about some euro teams joining the NBA, but most of the ppl didn't like that idea! mostly yeah travel time n stuff, making it so much more complicated
Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:24 pm
I think it is possible but in Moscow? (on my mind right now is Russia snowing and destroyed tanks everywhere and Russian scavengers...weird...)
Wow I am going to be hated by all Russians because of this
Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:34 am
CSKA wont be there for at least 5 years. But it seems Real Madrid likely will join the NBA, along with 3 newly created teams across Europe.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:49 am
It's going to take a lot longer than 5 years, if it happens at all. The NBA should remain just that, the NBA.
If European teams ever get the chance to play in the same league as U.S./Canadian teams, then it would only work in some sort of champions league, with a much, much less brutal schedule.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:02 am
I dont think european teams can ever join the NBA. It would not be good for the league. The travel time and jet lag would totally destroy the players. I think NBA should stay an american (and canadian) league
Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:29 am
no European teams suck.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:38 am
Matt wrote:no European teams suck.
All European teams are good? Punctuation might help

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Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:53 am
Matt wrote:no European teams suck.
Do you watch a lot of European basketball? Cause they certainly don't suck. You might not like their style of basketball, but there's some really skilled guys over here (not speed/hops but true skill).
Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:45 am
It's stupidity, the players would get messed up due to jet lags. Imagine the european teams' road trips
Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:49 am
I still don't understand how we can have a National Basketball Association that has teams in two nations. Either they shouldn't have expanded to Canada (my opinion), or we should be dealing with the IBA at this point.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:30 am
As a Europian(well,partly)I can say that this will suck... I mean,all those people who think that CSKA beat the Clips cuz they're better,are hell wrong... I mean,If CSKA played the Clips right now they'd lose big time... and the Clips ain't even so good this season...
Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:30 am
You can't even spell European. But I don't think European teams have the depth to beat NBA teams. I mean physically the American basketball players are better thean the Europeans. I mean I bet a European would win the 3 point contest though.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:34 am
Matt wrote:no European teams suck.
lmao, i hope you're not serious...Skill-wise CSKA might be somewhere arond 6th-7th place in eastern conference, but traveling will be horrible, flying 11 hours from ny to moscow is really hard
Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:48 am
BigKaboom2 wrote:I still don't understand how we can have a National Basketball Association that has teams in two nations. Either they shouldn't have expanded to Canada (my opinion), or we should be dealing with the IBA at this point.
Or rename the NBA to CBA (Continential Basketball Association) since both countries are in the same continent (North America). Ignoring that sentence, why shouldn't Canada be included? Toronto is a big market city with a bigger fan base bigger than the Phoenix Suns.
hammertime23 wrote:But I don't think European teams have the depth to beat NBA teams. I mean physically the American basketball players are better thean the Europeans. I mean I bet a European would win the 3 point contest though
Why not? Greece beat an All-Star lineup of the American team last summer. Argentina and Spain would've creamed them too. What they lack physically, they will make up with basketball smarts, chemistry and fundamentals.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:33 am
cyanide wrote:BigKaboom2 wrote:I still don't understand how we can have a National Basketball Association that has teams in two nations. Either they shouldn't have expanded to Canada (my opinion), or we should be dealing with the IBA at this point.
Or rename the NBA to CBA (Continential Basketball Association) since both countries are in the same continent (North America). Ignoring that sentence, why shouldn't Canada be included? Toronto is a big market city with a bigger fan base bigger than the Phoenix Suns.
hammertime23 wrote:But I don't think European teams have the depth to beat NBA teams. I mean physically the American basketball players are better thean the Europeans. I mean I bet a European would win the 3 point contest though
Why not? Greece beat an All-Star lineup of the American team last summer. Argentina and Spain would've creamed them too. What they lack physically, they will make up with basketball smarts, chemistry and fundamentals.
well,they beat the guys cause europeans play different defence `location defence` or how do i call that.
And NBA stars know how to play man on man defence and when they will face the ``location defence`` lol i can`t find a good word for that,anyways,then they don`t know what to do.Thats why the USA dream team didn`t win the gold medal.NBA and Euro basketball has some different things inside them.
Blah,my english suck.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:51 am
Its not good considering what others say that the jet lag will kill the players performance. and besides Euroteams will have a hard time winning because of the type of game play in the NBA is different from the Euroleague.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:58 am
That's why they need a Mexican team, that's nice and close.
Or they could shorten the NBA season and before the NBA finals or after them, or before the season starts, have an International tournament or something where EuroLeague and NBA combine to play for like a month or two.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:01 am
cyanide wrote:BigKaboom2 wrote:I still don't understand how we can have a National Basketball Association that has teams in two nations. Either they shouldn't have expanded to Canada (my opinion), or we should be dealing with the IBA at this point.
Or rename the NBA to CBA (Continential Basketball Association) since both countries are in the same continent (North America). Ignoring that sentence, why shouldn't Canada be included? Toronto is a big market city with a bigger fan base bigger than the Phoenix Suns.
I don't like the NBA expanding because it gives more bad players a chance to play, as well as spreading out all the star players so that some teams end up with only one dominant scorer who they run isolation plays for on 80% of their possessions. Expansion made the league less exciting by bringing the overall talent level down a notch.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:42 am
if Stern wants to avoid Malice @ the Palace then he will not expand to Europe......remember Mark Cuban going to SAS and wearing a T-shirt saying he got a rash from the place? Well, if you did that to a European team you'd get your ass kicked, literally. Europe is not a civilised place for sports events like bball or football.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:05 pm
There's no rule against it since obviously Toronto is in the league, but the travel would make it impossible.
When we get teleporters working, Moscow will be there.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:25 pm
Kbryant8 wrote:cyanide wrote:BigKaboom2 wrote:I still don't understand how we can have a National Basketball Association that has teams in two nations. Either they shouldn't have expanded to Canada (my opinion), or we should be dealing with the IBA at this point.
Or rename the NBA to CBA (Continential Basketball Association) since both countries are in the same continent (North America). Ignoring that sentence, why shouldn't Canada be included? Toronto is a big market city with a bigger fan base bigger than the Phoenix Suns.
hammertime23 wrote:But I don't think European teams have the depth to beat NBA teams. I mean physically the American basketball players are better thean the Europeans. I mean I bet a European would win the 3 point contest though
Why not? Greece beat an All-Star lineup of the American team last summer. Argentina and Spain would've creamed them too. What they lack physically, they will make up with basketball smarts, chemistry and fundamentals.
well,they beat the guys cause europeans play different defence `location defence` or how do i call that.
And NBA stars know how to play man on man defence and when they will face the ``location defence`` lol i can`t find a good word for that,anyways,then they don`t know what to do.Thats why the USA dream team didn`t win the gold medal.NBA and Euro basketball has some different things inside them.
Blah,my english suck.
I think you're talking about position defense, correct? Being at the right place at the right time, and cutting down the angles and options an offensive player has?
Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:30 pm
Europe's market is not that big. All the Euroleagues they hold don't get that much attention, how on earth could they have enough cash to make it worthwhile for the NBA. For christ sakes, what's the need for this anyways, it's an american thing and imo it should stay that way. Hold some tournaments or something but the whole league expanded sounds moronic.
Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:08 pm
Why not? Greece beat an All-Star lineup of the American team last summer. Argentina and Spain would've creamed them too. What they lack physically, they will make up with basketball smarts, chemistry and fundamentals
i think we are forgetting a few things.
1. The Greek team has played together for a few years and each player has a defined role whereas the Americans were just a team patched together
2. International players/teams knew everything about Team USA, whereas the Americans could only refer to the other teams players as "that guy"....lack of scouting hurts
Flip the script and it's a different story. I doubt a Euro team could win 10 games its first season. physically inferior, defensively bad, different rules, longer schedule etc.
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