Jimmy's XBOX360 Lighting V10 Prev[19/5]

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Postby Chris_23 on Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:07 pm

Sorry to disappoint you but it's not ambient lighting that makes PC to look like XBOX, not even a little bit. Ambient fakes the effect taking out shadowing from the picture and makes it look like Live 2000 with just alot more detailed models and texture filtering support.

XBOX360 uses ambient occlusion and hdr exposure which gives it that look. You can't even fake it with PC Live 07 no matter what you do, so advertising it as such is, well, cheap. Psychologically some may really believe that this lighting that takes out shadowing looks better, but it's just different waved under the flag of XBOX360.

no shading does NOT mean XBOX 360.

Let me explain it to you another way..

No shading (aka simulated very high ambient settings) result in light being uniform across the shaded 3D model.

NBA Live PC however uses light shading which shades the model depending on polygons normals and gives it lighting information (which is averaged across the vertexes).

Ambient Occlusion or it's simulation is what XBOX360 gives. This is the same thing, with the exception of lightmapped information stored on models which allows for ambient occlusion (average between polygons angles used for light calculation).

What this patch -here- does is that it actually moves further towards the first step from the second one, and not towards the third step. You take out all shading and end up with plain non-shaded or nearly non-shaded models which really looks like, as I said, Live 2000 with more detailed models.

Anyways, yeah, I guess whatever rocks your boat :roll:
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Postby Jimmy on Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:11 pm

thanks for your explanation :D i like it

but which version are you using? have you tried one of it? have you tried the latest Version 6? or just by the screenshots? haha
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Postby bigh0rt on Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:20 pm

Chris_23, that's actually an excellent analysis of the lighting patch. I think you hit the nail on the head perfectly. (Y)
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Postby Jimmy on Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:29 pm

Yes, i think so. the best analysis for the lighting patch! (Y) (Y)
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Postby el badman on Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:44 pm

What this patch -here- does is that it actually moves further towards the first step from the second one, and not towards the third step. You take out all shading and end up with plain non-shaded or nearly non-shaded models which really looks like, as I said, Live 2000 with more detailed models.

Anyways, yeah, I guess whatever rocks your boat :roll:

Chris_23, that's actually an excellent analysis of the lighting patch. I think you hit the nail on the head perfectly.

That's some thorough information indeed, but instead of bashing the patch and pointing out the PC version's flaws against the almighty 360 (gimme a break...), maybe you can try to do something for the community as important as what Jimmy is doing...That type of comment is just not very helpful in a PC-related thread IMO.
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Postby botbot on Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:02 pm

no matter what they say, I still think jimmy's lighting patch is a lot better that EA's.. so keep up the good work jimmy (Y) .... I'm currently using your V6 ..
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Postby Lean on Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:30 pm

This one's the best among your lighting patches!!! I'm gonna download this!!!

(And it's nice to see my jersey patch in your previews :cool: )
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Postby Jimmy on Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:35 pm

Crappy-Stuff wrote:This one's the best among your lighting patches!!! I'm gonna download this!!!

(And it's nice to see my jersey patch in your previews :cool: )


yup, your jersey realli amazing!
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Postby Lean on Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:41 pm

Yay, somebody downloaded my patch! How do you edit the .UBR files?
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Postby Jimmy on Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:06 am

Crappy-Stuff wrote:Yay, somebody downloaded my patch! How do you edit the .UBR files?
you may start on my tutorial in this thread

just use notepad to open that file.....


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Postby el badman on Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:36 am

Hey Jimmy, v6.0 is really sweet, but it made my game crash as I was editing players, so I'm back to v4.0 for now... :(
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Postby Jimmy on Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:08 am

el badman wrote:Hey Jimmy, v6.0 is really sweet, but it made my game crash as I was editing players, so I'm back to v4.0 for now... :(
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i cannot believe that.........................
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Postby el badman on Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:30 am

My bad, I have a problem with one particular player, Delonte West. If I edit him or try to play with him (any mode), my game crashes right ahead... :evil:
I have no idea wtf is wrong with that...
Sorry for alarming you Jimmy :wink:
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Postby Jimmy on Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:33 pm

anymore comment?
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Postby ericisgod on Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:52 pm

i think its too shine too me....you guys think so??
and a lil' bit dark!
i adjusted the brightness to55 but it still looks dark :|
look foward to 7.0 (Y)
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Postby Jimmy on Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:53 am

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Postby Dekiu on Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:29 am

The v6.0 is cool,but shoes are too shiny and face have a lil bit of shine.
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Postby Jimmy on Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:03 pm

the shoe shine is difficult to remove completely, but i will try
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Postby High5 on Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:57 pm

guys where can i find these player indicators and this scoreboard?
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Postby Weiland on Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:32 am

i've tried it and it looks cartoonish...just my opinion
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Postby Jimmy on Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:36 am

High5 wrote:guys where can i find these player indicators and this scoreboard?
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Postby High5 on Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:35 am

i searched and i found this scoreboard. but can someone give me direct link to these player indicators :)
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Postby High5 on Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:04 pm

no need guys i found it :D
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Postby Joker. on Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:41 pm

Amazing V7 lighting (Y)
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Postby yosifun on Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:56 pm

Hey Jimmy,

I know you recommend turning reflections OFF, but this means that the floor won't have reflections too and that really unrealistic in my opinion...

Any chance you could tweak things in your next version so that everything about the faces/jeseys/arms.. will look about the same but with reflections ON?

Thanks :D
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