Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:02 am
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Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:34 pm
Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:53 pm
benji wrote:Not that anyone cares what I have to say, but a major problem that afflicts this forum and all others, and always has afflicted forums, is that a large number of people think of it as a "message board" instead of a "discussion forum."
Not only that, but there's an adverse reaction to real discussion as "message boarders" lament long posts and "arguments" all too often. When someone makes a detailed, if flawed analysis of the team they have a mancrush on, it's guaranteed someone will exclaim "wow, long post" when it's hardly a page long printed.
Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:01 pm
Andrew wrote:benji wrote:Not that anyone cares what I have to say, but a major problem that afflicts this forum and all others, and always has afflicted forums, is that a large number of people think of it as a "message board" instead of a "discussion forum."
Not only that, but there's an adverse reaction to real discussion as "message boarders" lament long posts and "arguments" all too often. When someone makes a detailed, if flawed analysis of the team they have a mancrush on, it's guaranteed someone will exclaim "wow, long post" when it's hardly a page long printed.
Agreed, particularly on the message board/discussion forum comparison. All too often people seem to balk at anything over three or four sentences and "I can't be bothered reading all that" posts are more commonplace these days.
I suppose there's not much we can do about that since at the end of the day it's up to each individual poster to be interested enough to read long posts and feel motivated to discuss something rather than just post a comment.
Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:52 pm
Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:56 am
Zoom_24 wrote:I just got to say that... I am a bit worried that if I reply or try to make a discussion out of something; I may get told that I am perhaps spamming or something. Basically, I think discussion is good as long the manner of it all is civil and calm.
Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:25 am
Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:48 am
Mentally Hilarious wrote:The biggest strength that the NLSC has is that is one of the very, very, very, very few communities (internet or IRL) that breaks the 90-9-1 rule. 90 percent are passive watchers, 9 percent are passive contributors and 1 percent are active contributors. Here, that scale is very "twisted" in a good way. That's a solid foundation to build on.
Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:07 am
Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:08 am
benji wrote:Mentally Hilarious wrote:The biggest strength that the NLSC has is that is one of the very, very, very, very few communities (internet or IRL) that breaks the 90-9-1 rule. 90 percent are passive watchers, 9 percent are passive contributors and 1 percent are active contributors. Here, that scale is very "twisted" in a good way. That's a solid foundation to build on.
I think one should look at the facts before making statements.
Five posters have 10% of all posts, 25 posters have 24.5% of all posts, 69 posters have 2000+ posts or 0.37% of all posters, 143 have 1000+ or 0.77%. You have to lower the "active" threshold to 650 posts just to break 1% of all posters.
Andrew would need to provide the real numbers, but alexa seems to indicate that the NLSC gets roughly 225,000-300,000 users a month. Even on the low end of that scale, only 8.3% of users are also forum members. Assuming 1000+ posts for an "active" member, 0.064% of NLSC users are active.
Other Random Statistics
Per Day Post Growth Rate:
Dec 2, 2003-May 16, 2005: 0.38%
May 16, 2005-Oct 2, 2005: 0.24%
Oct 2, 2005-Feb 4, 2006: 0.20%
Feb 4, 2006-Oct 30, 2006: 0.13%
Dec 2, 2003-Oct 2, 2005: 0.45%
Oct 2, 2005-Oct 30, 2006: 0.17%
Per Day Member Growth Rate:
Jan 2, 2005-Oct 2, 2005: 0.16%
Oct 2, 2005-Oct 30, 2006: 0.22%
If the Dec 2003-May 2005 growth rate had persisted there would be 1.365 million posts today. The May-Oct 2005 rate would have resulted in 854,635 posts, while Oct-Feb rate 766,605.
Members are currently growing faster than posts, on Oct 2, 2005 there were 40.04 posts per member, now there is 36.22.
If the present rates continue, one can forecast 1.477 million posts and 60,719 members in two years, the rate of posts per user falling to 24.3. With Andrew at 33,973 posts, 2.3% of the total. He would need to increase to 37.28 posts per day to keep his present percentage of total posts.
Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:34 am
no matter how good a poster you loose - others will step up.
Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:35 am
Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:58 am
Nick wrote:Who knows how many moron posters we've shut down that could've turned into something decent down the road?
Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:02 am
Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:13 am
Mentally Hilarious wrote:What I would do is invest a lot of time and energy into transforming the forums, new graphics, new mods/hacks for phpBB and new sub-forums and the such. A total reconstruction and maybe even thinking over if you only want to focus on NBA Live. Maybe start building the changes now and going for phpBB3? Or change to vBulletin or any other forum software (as long as it is not YaBB...)
Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:18 am
I could try and help with this stuff (designing, installing) if you guys are going to use new forum software and want me to help. Waiting to go phpBB3 probably isn't the best idea though...vBulletin or Invision Board would be the best choices for the new software IMO. I don't know where we're going to get the money for them though...
Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:29 am
Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:02 pm
Zoom_24 wrote:I could try and help with this stuff (designing, installing) if you guys are going to use new forum software and want me to help. Waiting to go phpBB3 probably isn't the best idea though...vBulletin or Invision Board would be the best choices for the new software IMO. I don't know where we're going to get the money for them though...
Do you guys think that NLSC would ever start charging for memberships?
Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:29 pm
Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:04 pm
Nick wrote:Who knows how many moron posters we've shut down that could've turned into something decent down the road?
Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:56 pm
Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:26 pm