Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:55 pm
Schizophrenia is - like Down syndrom and unlike AIDS - a genetic disorder. Does schizophrenia show in a different manner than Down syndrom? Sure, but it's basically the same thing. They both affect you psychically (Down syndrom - your brains and body and schizophrenia - your brains) and therefore also mentally. The same thing could be said for homosexuality.
Another question: would any of you risk a chance of having homosexual children if that could be prevented?
Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:58 pm
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:36 am
IMO, marriage is an institution between a man and a woman and I'm against changing the definition. Allowing men (or women) to marry each other is one of the basic steps to the moral chaos I mentioned before.
If men can marry, than marriage becomes a institution of excess, something people will make fun of it.
I should be able to marry my dog. Hey, who are you to say that we don't love each other?
You can't suddenly change something that was developed through time and is a 'natural' institution, you can't just rewrite the definitions of family, marriage, etc..
Perhaps, but one has the right to squash a fly, but he can't do the same with a dog, because that's what the society says.
But hell, dog or a fly - it's both a fucking animal.
Gay and straight, they are all human and should therefore all be able to marry but the same rules don't apply and shouldn't apply, because in the grand scheme of things, it's not the same fucking thing.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:06 am
iKe7in wrote:Insects aren't animals dumbass.
Matthew wrote:For starters, It's my viewpoint and im not religous. Second of all I couldn't care less about trivial spelling on a message board. And thirdly, the comparison wasnt about whether they were consenting, but rather about the fact that homosexuality, pedophillia and beastiality are all unnatural.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:14 am
Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:19 am
iKe7in wrote:Animals (dogs, humans) are warm blooded mammals. Insects are not.
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:59 am
Fenix wrote:And fags aren't the 'another step in progression of human kind'. They're the abnormality that occured, not something we should include in our future plans or make a solid part of our society.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:08 am
Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:15 am
Fenix wrote:Look at it this way: a couple of centuries ago you would be killed for sleeping with a guy.
Hell, sodomy is still forbidden in some American states and in a lot of countries world-wide.
Do you think that people from the 18th century would find legalization of gay marriages a drastic change?
Don't you think that's a sign that our moral standards have change a bit?
And changes are happening faster and faster. Do you think people from the 18th century were able to imagine that we'll take things this far?
Why isn't this only a intermediate step that leads to legalization of pedophilia and necrophilia.
With delevopment of computers and computer graphics, how can you know that digital experience of having sex with a 3d model of your 10 year old daughter won't become legal forty or fifty years from now?
Sure, you can't imagine it now, but like said before - 18th century folks weren't expecting that gay marriages were going to become legal.
That's why I support the existance of conservative institutions like church and extremist movements. That's the only way to achieve the middle grounds.And fags aren't the 'another step in progression of human kind'.
I really couldn't care less if that's wht you believe, because I know I'm not going to convince you. But realize that being intelligent enought o allow the extension of marriage is a step forward in our own human condition.They're the abnormality that occured, not something we should include in our future plans or make a solid part of our society.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:37 am
Yeah, but they would fins a lot of things drastic. Like allowing women or black people to vote. Are those also signs of moral decay?
We're not living in the 18th century! We live in the 21st century where we are a thousand times smarter and understand how life works.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:40 am
Fenix wrote:Will you decide who can get married and who can't? IMO, marriage is an institution between a man and a woman and I'm against changing the definition.
Fenix wrote:Allowing men (or women) to marry each other is one of the basic steps to the moral chaos I mentioned before. If men can marry, than marriage becomes a institution of excess, something people will make fun of it. I should be able to marry my dog.
Fenix wrote:I'm basically saying this: marriage was created through centuries with straight people in mind. That's the truth. There were no gay people integrated into the whole big picture of things. Is it unfair and illogical? Perhaps, but one has the right to squash a fly, but he can't do the same with a dog, because that's what the society says. But hell, dog or a fly - it's both a fucking animal. Gay and straight, they are all human and should therefore all be able to marry but the same rules don't apply and shouldn't apply, because in the grand scheme of things, it's not the same fucking thing.
Fenix wrote:Women and black people are part of the 'normal' human rase, part of the evolution. Homosexuality is a deviation of the evolution and not an integral part of it. It's a big difference.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:03 am
Fenix wrote:Homosexuality is a deviation of the evolution
Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:07 am
Joey Jojo wrote:Fenix wrote:Homosexuality is a deviation of the evolution
There is solid evidence which shows that not only humans have homosexual tendencies. Animals have "homos" too.
Some of these animals are chimps, monkeys, dolphins, and penguins.
Nothing to offer much to the debate, just a trivia.
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:18 am
iKe7in wrote:Its hard to tell which animals are homosexual because most dogs just hump anything that moves.
Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:38 am