Dro wrote:Don't know if it's been posted or not, but did you folks hear the rumor about Marion, the #21, the #27 to the Bulls for BG7 and the #2? What do you guys think of that deal for both teams?
I personally think the Bulls would be better off with that deal. I don't see anybody in this draft become a top 15 player, like Shawn Marion is. And Ben Gordon would be a 20ppg scorer in the Suns' system.
However, I don't see the deal going down. The point of trading Marion would be to get rid of the logjam at PF, and getting the pick to draft Tyrus Thomas would be pointless.
Unrestrict3D wrote:I believe Chicago will trade the #2 pick to either the Lakers (Odom) or elsewhere. I don't think they'll keep the pick.
Silas wrote:I'm not saying he will be the next tyson chandler, but it seems he's coming into the league as an athletic and animated defender with less offensive skills, for some teams thats good but i think you'd agree the Bulls need a big man who can be productive on both ends of the floor, not just one.
They should probably try to still draft the best talent available, look at it this way.
Say you have a solid playoff team, such as the bulls, who landed a top pick via trade, and they have one obvious gaping hole, PF, but the remainder of their lineup is talented.
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Now, say players like Kobe and KG and Tmac are in the draft, just because the obvious filler spot is gone, does that mean you should pass on players like potential kobe or Tmac to fill a hole? I say draft the best player and then perhaps they can arrange a trade involving their player or one of the palyers at a position like C, SG, SF, or PG to get the player they need at PF.
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vank wrote:but I'd rather take my chances with Thomas/Aldridge/Bargnani (all PFs), than someone who'll help me win 5 games for the next three years and then retire/become shit.
LSU coach: Bulls will draft Thomas
By Mike McGraw
Daily Herald Sports Writer
Posted Saturday, June 03, 2006
LSU coach John Brady is convinced the Bulls will select former Tigers power forward Tyrus Thomas with the No. 2 selection in the NBA draft June 28.
Speaking at the Southeastern Conference Spring Meeting in Destin, Fla., Brady told the Baton Rouge Advocate that he hasn’t heard from Toronto, which owns the top pick, in regard to Thomas. But Brady believes the Bulls have strong interest.
“If he’s sitting at No. 2, I think Chicago will take him,” Brady said, echoing the sentiment of many NBA observers.
The LSU coach was also happy that Thomas might have the chance to join a team that made the playoffs last season. The Bulls finished 41-41, but they acquired the No. 2 pick from New York in the Eddy Curry trade.
“He’s coming out of maybe the closest college basketball team in the country,” Brady said. “He’s known those guys since he was 6 or 7 years old.
“With the Knicks, the players don’t like the coach (Larry Brown), the coach doesn’t like the players and the players don’t like each other. Tyrus doesn’t need that.
“I like that (the Bulls) are a young team, and (coach) Scott Skiles challenges his guys. Tyrus’ personality fits all of that. I think he’ll be an NBA all-star in four years.”
The 6-foot-9 Thomas, a redshirt freshman from Baton Rouge, averaged 12.3 points, 9.2 rebounds and 3.1 blocks while helping lead LSU to the Final Four.
Bulls get a breather: The Bulls will take a break from working out draft prospects at the Berto Center as NBA teams attend the Orlando predraft camp beginning Tuesday.
This is the event that was held in Chicago at the Moody Bible Institute for years before being switched to Disney’s Wide World of Sports Complex. Disney is the parent company of NBA broadcast partners ABC and ESPN.
As usual, most of the players who are convinced they’ll be first-round selections will not participate in the Orlando camp. Illinois guard Dee Brown is not expected to play, while forward James Augustine may pull out. Both players are projected as possible late first-round picks.
Ex-Bull tries comeback: Former Bulls guard Jay Williams may finally be ready to launch his NBA comeback, nearly three years after a devastating motorcycle accident caused severe injuries to his left leg. Williams worked out for the Toronto Raptors on Thursday.
“The opportunity here is tremendous,” Williams said in the Toronto Sun. “I feel great. I have no fear of playing basketball.”
Williams, a 6-2 guard, plans to work out for more NBA teams, but it’s unlikely the Bulls have any interest. The Bulls released Williams in 2004 after agreeing to a contract buyout.
http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/bulls.asp
Thomas stands calmly at the free-throw line and swishes shot after shot. He's cool. He's been going for an hour and he's barely sweating. Every free throw is automatic.
Thomas' workout on Friday wasn't what I expected.
There were no post moves. No flying dunks. In fact, Thomas didn't dunk the ball once in his workout....
Thomas decided he would show me that his offensive skills are anything but raw.
Thomas spends the better part of an hour doing ball-handling and shooting drills.
It's clear that he was once a point guard. He handles the ball very well for a big man. He can dribble with his right and left, change directions and bring the ball up the floor. We didn't see much of that at LSU.
The shooting is a mixed bag. His jump-shooting form is very good. He's got a high, consistent release on his jumper with nice rotation. But on the day I saw him, the results were streaky.
He started off the workout missing just about everything, especially from 10 feet in. He did show a nice kiss off the glass from about eight feet in on the right side. Then, 20 minutes into the workout, his shot started to fall.
He stepped out to the college 3-point line and hit 22 of 33 during one catch-and-shoot drill. As he got tired toward the end of the workout, his shot started to come up short.
I didn't come out of the workout thinking Thomas was an amazing shooter. But he was clearly more skilled in that area than advertised. Given his shot mechanics, he looks like he'll be the type of guy who will be able to hit the 15-to-18 foot jumper."
"I've never met a kid so driven," Livingston says. "He's an amazing guy to train. The hard part is keeping him out of the gym. We'll do a hard morning and afternoon session and a weightlifting session in between and Tyrus will call me up late at night and say, 'Randy, we got to go back to the gym tonight to get some shots up.' That's refreshing."
"I thought when I first got him that he'd be somewhere in between Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion," Livingston says. "But after working with him I think he's more a hybrid between Tracy McGrady and Kevin Garnett. He's not as skilled on the perimeter as Tracy, but he can do just about everything and do it with amazing athleticism. As for KG, the thing about that is that Tyrus plays with that energy and passion.
"He plays with a chip on his shoulder. That's what has made KG such an amazing player and I think it's what drives Tyrus. The kid is ultra-competitive. He's mature for his age. He's not obsessed with living the NBA lifestyle. I think all of that is going to make him successful in the league."
"I don't like when people say that I came out of nowhere," says Thomas. "I understand why they think that because the media or the NBA scouts didn't really know about me. But it doesn't reflect the hours I put in the gym trying to get my game to this point. Everything I'm getting right now I've worked hard for. Real hard."
Thomas said after the workout that he sees himself more as a three than a four in the pros.
"I really wasn't allowed to play the three at LSU so people don't understand that I've been either a guard or a small forward my whole life," Thomas explained. "This is the first year I've ever really played the four. I think I'll always be more comfortable on the perimeter."
Andrew wrote:If the Raptors were willing to take #2 and #16 for the #1 giving the Bulls a guaranteed chance to take Aldridge, would you do it? Perhaps I'm placing too much stock in him but he would seem to be closer to the legit big man than Thomas is shaping up to be. Mind you, the latest mock draft at nbadraft.net has Aldridge going 5th with the Raptors taking Morrison. Stating the obvious here but if the Raptors do take Morrison that leaves Alridge on the board to be taken at #2...is it worth taking that risk and just doing the best they can with #2 and #16 if the Raptors do settle on Aldridge?
Indy wrote:Hey gordon and Andrew, I have a trade proposal for you...
Tinsley/Jackson/Foster/#17 pick for Gordon/Duhon/Harrington
What do you think?
I don't know if the salaries match, but that would be the core of the deal.
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