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Bush Letting Aliens into US

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:42 am

Riot I agree with you on alot of stuff, but man I gotta draw the line. Bush really is one of the worst presidents. Hes letting Illegal Immagrants in the US. He just said this was his exact words, "If your willing to do jobs that other Americas wont, then you can stay here."

Whos to say that Americans wont do the jobs? Its because illegal immagrants are getting welfare and jobs and its people like me right now that have a hard time getting a job. Bush sucks so much. Even my parents said they feel like asswholes now that they voted for him. I dont know a 100% about this issue, so bring some more stuff up

EDIT:

Also, did you hear the illegal imagrants chanting "We Are America! We Are America!" Are YOU F*CKING Serious???? WOW thats F*CKING RIDICULOUS thats embarrasing!
Last edited by ShAuN on Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:49 am

Hes letting Illegal Immagrants in the US. He just said this was his exact words, "If your willing to do jobs that other Americas wont, then you can stay here."

What's wrong about that? How is it his fault your lazy ass doesn't find mowing the lawn a suitable job? A lawn mower? Nah, the hispanics can do that.

its people like me right now that have a hard time getting a job.

You're not not getting a job because of President Bush or because of the immigrants, you're not getting a job because you're a dumbass.

Even my parents said they feel like asswholes

First off, they should feel like "asswholes", they gave birth to you. Secondly, the word is asshole, asshole.

I dont know a 100% about this issue, so bring some more stuff up

Se llamo el "Google", pendejo.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:50 am

Jackal wrote:
I dont know a 100% about this issue, so bring some more stuff up

Se llamo el "Google", pendejo.

:lol:

ShAuN, you can't even make a sensible discussion involving basketball, so please, PLEASE, don't even try politics.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:53 am

Hes letting Illegal Immagrants in the US. He just said this was his exact words, "If your willing to do jobs that other Americas wont, then you can stay here."

What's wrong about that? How is it his fault your lazy ass doesn't find mowing the lawn a suitable job? A lawn mower? Nah, the hispanics can do that.


Whats wrong about that??? WOW Hes letting illegal immagrants in the US hes letting border jumpers in the fucking United States

I didn mean to say I cant get a job, i said its harder because of all the illegal aliens in the country now

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:54 am

If lazy bums such as yourself had done the fucking work that was available, he wouldn't have to get border jumpers to come mow the Whitehouse lawn.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:55 am

I cant? No its just because I see things differantly.

And clearly as a Republican presidant letting Illegal Aliens in the US is awful hes a piece of shit

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:56 am

Yea ok Jackal, the American work ethic is soooo poor, Bush needs to get fucking BORDER jumpers to mow his lawn yea that made alot of sence didnt it?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:57 am

Ohh and BTW he doesnt get border jumpers. They illegally come to the country and hes too fucking lazy to do shit about it

Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:58 am

Is it fucking possible for you to make one post in 3 minutes rather than 3 in 3 minutes?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:02 am

ShAuN wrote:Yea ok Jackal, the American work ethic is soooo poor, Bush needs to get fucking BORDER jumpers to mow his lawn yea that made alot of sence didnt it?


Jesus fucking christ. Shut the hell up. You could be contagious.

You're obviously a illiterate useless fuck who couldn't possible grasp what politics are about and why certain actions are taken. What is it with you? Do you think the immigrants snuck across the border and forcibly stole the jobs? No, no they didn't.

Lazy fucks who found busting tables and mowing lawns below them are now complaining because the people who WOULD do, and does those jobs are getting their voices heard through sheer numbers.

Gah!

Why don't we let a "border jumper" take your place instead. He would have a better grasp of the language than you and would definetly make a better poster.

Now shut the hell up. For your own sake. Be quiet. Now.

Oh, and Bush does infact prove the point that useless people, much like you, easily can get in places of power. The man is a walking, talking blooper.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:05 am

I cant? No its just because I see things differantly.

Let me rephrase that for you. I can't. No, it's because I see things from a retards view.

And clearly as a Republican presidant letting Illegal Aliens in the US is awful hes a piece of shit

You make one more discriminatory post & you'll find yourself playing with yourself a lot more than posting on this forum. This time around that bullshit of "it was my cat that walked over the keyboard" bullshit won't fly.

Yea ok Jackal, the American work ethic is soooo poor, Bush needs to get fucking BORDER jumpers to mow his lawn yea that made alot of sence didnt it?

It made more sense than that phrase of yours. Really, you're whining & complaining about these so called non US "aliens" yet you spell like a fucking douchebag. It should be an unwritten rule that you should be able to actually be capable of spelling/using the language of the country you reside in before you're allowed to sit & whine about the foreigners stealing your jobs.

ShAun, really, I find no reason as to why you were let back, you were a moron then & you're a moron now, you'll be a moron in the future, you'll get yourself a moron education, get married to your moron highschool sweetheart, the two of you will be the first moron gay couple to get married, you guys will have little moron babies and then you'll die of moron cancer.

To close it off, you're a moron.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:05 am

Is it fucking possible for you to make one post in 3 minutes rather than 3 in 3 minutes?

My bad, but see you didnt have a responce to that


You're obviously a illiterate useless fuck who couldn't possible grasp what politics are about and why certain actions are taken. What is it with you? Do you think the immigrants snuck across the border and forcibly stole the jobs? No, no they didn't.

Yes they did

Its just that Bush is too lazy to do anything about that

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:12 am

ShAuN wrote:Yes they did

Its just that Bush is too lazy to do anything about that


1. Use quote. It's really easy.

2. No, they didn't. It's really hard to steal a job no-one is doing. Actually... it's impossible to steal a job that someone is doing.

E: Oh, and everything Jackal said.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:19 am

Alot of Hardworking Americans get laid off and are taken over by some border jumper. Maybe they dont all steal jobs, but they all commit crimes and they all collect f*cking welfare. Why should a hardworken american like my Dad for example work 12 hour days 6 days a week and work his ass off and give money to some welfair illegal immigrant fucking border jumper? Why should we have welfare why cant people get jobs especially illegal aliens? Why should hard working Americans pay for their health insurance, and for there food by welfare checks? Fuck them

Everything Jackal just said really didnt relate to this topic so whatever

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:22 am

Don't talk about things you don't know a clue about. Guess what? Why did you even make this topic? If you're not going to talk about politics with a sense of professionalism, then don't even bring it up at all. You shouldn't have made this thread. Of course you have right to state your opinion, but it doesn't have an base and you're an idiot.

And plus, you make crazy ass generalizations about things like 'all commit crimes' and other things. I'm done here.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:24 am

You didnt post ANYTHING to relate with the topic. Whats ur opinion?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:25 am

as crazy as it sounds, hows about you guys attack the issue he is presenting rather than attacking him as a person.

instead of calling shaun a moron and stuff, why not defend your stand on the issue, and if you've got a really good point, then he'll have nothing to say, it really doesn't help to flame the person.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:48 am

Jing wrote:as crazy as it sounds, hows about you guys attack the issue he is presenting rather than attacking him as a person.


Because this right below is kinda hard to debate. He's obviously as dogmatic and closeminded as you can get.

ShAuN wrote:Alot of Hardworking Americans get laid off and are taken over by some border jumper. Maybe they dont all steal jobs, but they all commit crimes and they all collect f*cking welfare. Why should a hardworken american like my Dad for example work 12 hour days 6 days a week and work his ass off and give money to some welfair illegal immigrant fucking border jumper? Why should we have welfare why cant people get jobs especially illegal aliens? Why should hard working Americans pay for their health insurance, and for there food by welfare checks? Fuck them

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:49 am

THANK YOU JING! I really appricaite it

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:00 am

It does when it's Shaun you're talking about.

I can only defend the statment if he presents it in a decent fashion. What's his stance on the subject? That Bush is a moron because he's letting immigrants come into the country? What's he basing this upon? That one line? Does he have evidence that Bush isn't trying to combat illegal immigrants?

He's also generalising all immigrants as being job stealers, criminals and went as far as calling them aliens. How is that posting on topic? How does that help support the fact he thinks Bush is "officialy" sucks? Everyone wants me to go against what he has to say about the issue, fine, I'll try and decipher that bullshit he calls posting.

Bush really is one of the worst presidents.

You're basing this on the fact he's letting immigrants "steal your job"? Great great build up to your point.

Hes letting Illegal Immagrants in the US.

Are you sitting at the border watching as this happens? No? What proof do you have?

He just said this was his exact words, "If your willing to do jobs that other Americas wont, then you can stay here."

How is he referring to illegal immigrants? He could be talking about IT engineers from China & India for all you know, all with permits to reside in the US. How do you know he's talking about illegal immigrants?

Its because illegal immagrants are getting welfare and jobs and its people like me right now that have a hard time getting a job.

Again, why are you sticking illegal immigrants on to what Bush said in that one line? Are you that narrow minded?

Bush sucks so much.

Yet to give me a good reason as to why you think he sucks, besides the illegal immigrants bullshit.

Even my parents said they feel like asswholes now that they voted for him.

What's that got to do with the topic at hand? How does that go to show Bush sucks as a president?

Whats wrong about that??? WOW Hes letting illegal immagrants in the US hes letting border jumpers in the fucking United States

Again, this seems to be the only defense you have for your moronic statements.

And clearly as a Republican presidant letting Illegal Aliens in the US is awful hes a piece of shit

Once again, that's like the third time now? You went as far as calling them aliens this time.

Yea ok Jackal, the American work ethic is soooo poor, Bush needs to get fucking BORDER jumpers to mow his lawn yea that made alot of sence didnt it?

How was that in support of the topic?

Ohh and BTW he doesnt get border jumpers. They illegally come to the country and hes too fucking lazy to do shit about it

1) Who says he's talking about illegal immigrants when he said that line.
2) How do you know he isn't combatting illegal immigrants? A moron like you probably won't be able to pick the White House out of a series of pictures including the White House, the Eifel Tower & the Mona Lisa.

Yes they did

(In response to Mentally), again, can you prove this?

Its just that Bush is too lazy to do anything about that

That's the second time you said that, evidence is what I need, not your word/belief.

Maybe they dont all steal jobs, but they all commit crimes and they all collect f*cking welfare.

Generlising now aswell? You fucking Ku Klux Klan bitch.

Why should a hardworken american like my Dad for example work 12 hour days 6 days a week and work his ass off and give money to some welfair illegal immigrant fucking border jumper?

There are people that abuse the system, but there are people that are incapable of working. Without this system your country would be in the dumps.

Why should we have welfare why cant people get jobs especially illegal aliens?

I seemed to have missed that line the first time around, that's the second time you made a discriminatory remark against "border jumpers", two racist remarks after I told you NOT to do it again, that's just asking for a farewell.

Once I let it slide, not twice, if you can't have a discussion without resorting to racist remarks you're no better than Legend is. Now let your dick say hi to your right hand while we say farewell to you.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:01 am

I've said this over and over again, I do not agree with Bush's immigration policy. However, it's not just President Bush who won't take a stand (and even if he did nothing would happen) it's all politics. All the politicians don't want to upset the hispanic community because they need their votes. If they say no to illegal immigrants and that hispanics are ruining the American life, which it really is, then they'll lose out on a lot of votes in the future. It's just not good campaign strategy to attack a "large minority", if that makes sense.

I have a few problems with illegal immigrants. They take our jobs, get their paycheck and then run back to their country (Mexico). So they take our jobs but then don't put the money they get back into the economy. Or if they do stay in America they spend it on drugs and booze and need welfare to support their 8 kids. They just aren't very smart.

Another thing is we have to use our taxes to pay for their education and their welfare. They aren't even citizens and they are here illegally and they are getting our education? That just isn't right. If you want to be here come here the right way. I have no respect for illegal immigrants, no matter how troubling their situation is.

They also have the potential of bringing a lot of (popular) drugs and (rare) disease into the country. I'm not a marijuana expert, but I don't think that stuff grows in America very easily. A lot of the marjuana is imported into this country (like that big bust they had a few weeks ago).

Plus, they really have no movitation to learn English. However, that is more of societies fault rather than their fault. We practically hand feed the spanish speaking minority here because we don't want to offend them.

Bottom line: don't call out President Bush on this one. Even if he wanted to do anything (Which I'm sure he wants to do. The border is more protected now than it was under the Clinton administration.) the other politicians would fight it. This is a democracy, we have the government set up where one man cannot create change. I just wish these politicians had more balls.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:03 am

If your willing to do jobs that other Americas wont, then you can stay here

I'll stress this one last time.

How can one derrive he's talking about illegal immigrants out of this line?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:18 am

Riot wrote:They take our jobs


How does one exactly take a job?

(this is not so much against you Riot, but let's just say I don't have high hopes for a coherent answer from Shaun)

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:20 am

Mentally Hilarious wrote:
Riot wrote:They take our jobs


How does one exactly take a job?

(this is not so much against you Riot, but let's just say I don't have high hopes for a coherent answer from Shaun)


A lot of companies will hire illegal immigrants because they will work for less than the federal minimum wage law. So basically, they get all the work done while paying less money to get it done. This is more of a problem for the lower class Americans who are desperate to find a job to support their family but they cannot because the immigrants are willing to work for $3.50 an hour instead of $6.15 an hour.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:30 am

Riot wrote:
Mentally Hilarious wrote:
Riot wrote:They take our jobs


How does one exactly take a job?

(this is not so much against you Riot, but let's just say I don't have high hopes for a coherent answer from Shaun)


A lot of companies will hire illegal immigrants because they will work for less than the federal minimum wage law. So basically, they get all the work done while paying less money to get it done. This is more of a problem for the lower class Americans who are desperate to find a job to support their family but they cannot because the immigrants are willing to work for $3.50 an hour instead of $6.15 an hour.


So it is infact something that you should blame the employers, not the employees for?
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