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by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Tue May 06, 2003 7:47 pm

Which of these guys would you draft? (if the lottery goes with the odds)
#1 Denver
#2 Cleveland
#3 Toronto
#4 Miami
#5 L.A. Clippers

Lebron James

Carmelo Anthony

Darko Milicic

T.J. Ford

Chris Bosh

Dwayne Wade

Michael Sweetney

Someone else perhaps....

by **Nel** on Tue May 06, 2003 8:12 pm

i would pick carmelo anthony. why? coz he brought syracuse to the national championship. and this means he's a winner. :cool:

by **Scary Hedo** on Tue May 06, 2003 8:21 pm

LeBron James... no explaining needed i think

by **Rens** on Tue May 06, 2003 8:25 pm

I can only speak from various scouting reports and other articles I've read, haven't seen these players actually play, but everything on the Internet it true, right?

If the order remains like this, I think the order will be like this:
Denver - LeBron James
Cleveland - Darko Milicic
Toronto - Carmelo Anthony
Miami - Chris Bosh
LA Clippers - T.J. Ford

and probably Lampe being #6, Wade and Harvis will probably go top 10 as well. Pavlovic will go top 10 according to ESPN. Maybe Barbosa will sneak into the top 10 as well, one hell of a rise that would be.

Some alternatives I could see, Milicic at three and Melo at two, Lampe at 4 or 5. Ford might drop if his injury bothers him too much, and if he drops I think some team will be very lucky to get him at a lower spot. He won't fit everywhere, but from what I've read he's the best real PG out of college since Kidd.

by **Colin** on Wed May 07, 2003 9:38 am

Dan Gadzuric wrote:but from what I've read he's the best real PG out of college since Kidd.

I was lucky enough to be on vacation at a club med in florida during spring break, got to see all the collge games and TJ Ford is an awesome pg.

by **Clinton** on Wed May 07, 2003 1:04 pm

I'd go with LeBron. Too risky passing him up. I think Melo will go at two, especially if it's the Cavs pick.

YouTube · by **mp3** on Thu May 08, 2003 4:46 am

same order as dan said (Y)

James will go first no question, the hardest choice lies with whoever gets the second pick. do they want a star in the making in Carmelo Anthony
or a good young big man in Darko Milicic

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Fri May 09, 2003 2:34 am

Before going to NBA Draft.Net site and respecting everything that dude says, look at some of his comments:

On this page look at what he said about Phoenix's selection of Rookie of the Year Amare Stoudemire, look at Utah, Portland,
http://nbadraft.net/2002draftgrades.htm

Read what this doofis says about Omar Cook over Gilbert Arenas (Denver & Golden State) How Michael Bradley (Toronto) compares to Troy Murphy.
Read how he rips New Jersey for acquiring Richard Jefferson and Jason Collins (Brandon Armstrong) for Eddie Griffin.
He justs hates Elton Brand (20 points and 11 Rebounds)
Cleveland - trading Brendon Haywood for Jeff Trepagnier...
http://nbadraft.net/2001draftgrades.htm

Start here with Charlotte taking Jamaal Magloire..
Read the guy talk about Dallas' picks..
Check out his comments on Portland's pick of Erick Barkley..
See the man behind the site's evalution of Morris Peterson taken by Toronto...
http://nbadraft.net/2000draftgrades.htm

I seriously believe the draft is very hard to predict.
I just think this character is out of touch with real knowledge.

He probably would have taken Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan as well.

No offense to him, the european star or whatever, but passing on Carmelo Anthony for Darko Milicic is not what I would do, nor do I believe anyone holding the second pick would do. He may even be better than LeBron James, depending on what you want. LeBron is something special though, no doubt about it, teams have no choice but to pick him.

by **Rens** on Fri May 09, 2003 7:07 am

Draft is a crapshoot all the time anyway, especially since teams decided to draft for potential instead of players that can step right in.

by **air gordon** on Fri May 09, 2003 8:10 am

i think the clippers should trade their draft pick. they do have enough young guys on the team. maybe they can package another player with the pick to get a proven veteran in there.

but with sterling as the owner and baylor as the GM, i wouldn't be surprised if the team traded for 2 1st round picks so they can grab 2 more pf's

by **Venom** on Fri May 09, 2003 8:30 am

the clippers won't have any young players next year...he he...at least not any good ones :mrgreen:

by **toni kukoc** on Fri May 09, 2003 12:01 pm

reading an article on the nba draft
i have noticed that the scouts are making an argument that
lebron james played with high school players
while darko milicic played professionally.
i think that Darko milicic will be the first round pick
lebron james is overated cause he played with high school students
while darko played with proffesionals.
The only thing is that Lebron is american so thats why he has a chance to go first and darko european.

This is my pick what will happen
1st pick: Darko Milicic
2nd pick: Lebron James
3rd pick: Carmelo Anthony

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Fri May 09, 2003 5:03 pm

This comment about Darko Milicic is just ignorant, sorry to use such harsh words, it just does not make sense.

Does this mean everyone in the NBA is better than LeBron James?
Does this mean everyone in NBDL is better than LeBron James?
Does this mean everyone in European Pro Basketball is better than Lebron James?

Because Darko Milicic played in European Pro Basketball doesn't squat!!

It means he is better than he would be at his age had he not.

LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are better than Milicec for many reasons, none of which have to do with where or whom they played against only.

I am sure Milicic is very good, but he's not going number one, even if the Lakers had the pick or Orlando or Boston or anyone else that has players at his position. This would be like passing on Michael Jordan. I know it's a stretch at this point. But in principle it's the same thing. No one will pass up LeBron James for anyone available.

I don't even know why I addressed this issue, because you prolly don't even believe that statement yourself.

LeBron James would have gone ahead Yao Ming last year as a Junior in High School, I have no doubt about it.

I have never seen Milicic play, nor do I think up in Canada they are showing the European League games..... I have seen James and Anthony and they are excellent players, just as young.

I believe you have the right to believe what you believe, but your reasoning is bankrupt.

by **rUsTy** on Fri May 09, 2003 7:48 pm

I have never seen Milicic play

LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are better than Milicec for many reasons

one being u have never seen darko play so you actualy have no idea how good he is?

Does this mean everyone in the NBA is better than LeBron James?
Does this mean everyone in NBDL is better than LeBron James?
Does this mean everyone in European Pro Basketball is better than Lebron James?

ummm what are u trying to prove with them questions? i can tell u the league Darko is in is a hell of alot better and alot more respected then a little high school comp. Darko also plays against men, he has proved himself against full grown body's, lebron has proven himself against what? some little school boys which the majority are half his size?

dont get me wrong lebron has tallent, but so does darko, if darko played in a high school comp in america im pretty sure he'd rip it up just as much as lebron and get the same coverage as him to. Maybe even more due to his size and lack of decent bigmen in the NBA

Im not saying darko will go first, but kukoc puts up a better arguement then yours

by **scubilete** on Sat May 10, 2003 11:55 am

He probably would have taken Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan as well.

There's a big difference between the old days and now. Back when MJ & Bowie were drafted, teams were looking for what they needed not who was going to get more people to the stadium, something that is happening now.

Right, Bowie was a disappointment but notice that Portland was not going to draft a Shooting Guard a year after they Got Clyde Drexler, another terrific SG and if you know what I'm talking about, you wouldn't make the mistake of getting a shooting guard when you don't need it, especially when you didn't know what MJ was going to do. Houston went to get Yao Ming, terrific player but not the best of the Draft since he was not the one taking the Rookie of the year, however, the Rockets took what they needed and that's good for the franchise. You can't blame those teams for getting what they need when they do it, that's why there's a draft, you don't take the player people think you should but you take player you are really in need to, if you want to win of course.

I believe you have the right to believe what you believe, but your reasoning is bankrupt.

by **toni kukoc** on Sat May 10, 2003 12:29 pm

omg

if you think that lebron james is that good then u might as well say that lebron james is better than jordan
first of all for one

you should visit nbadraft.net and see what the scouts are saying then come here and talking about lebron james like he is the best player ever :roll:

you cant get this thru your mind that LEBRON JAMES PLAYED IN HIGH SCHOOL :lol:

while carmelo anthony in ncaa and darko european league

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sat May 10, 2003 3:30 pm

If history is anything to go by, Milicic is pretty much assured to be a top 3 pick, since talented young players with potential have been popular choices in recent times, especially with players like Kobe and KG entering the league at a young age and establishing themselves among the NBA's elite. Milicic is also 7'0" 245 (according to nbadraft.net), and big men tend to be chosen ahead of guards and swingmen.

That would suggest Darko will be taken ahead of LeBron, but it seems to be a forgone conclusion that LeBron will be something special, and there's almost too much hype for him to be taken with a lower pick. Then again, the best player doesn't always go first (as has already been mentioned), and no one wants a Pervis Ellison/Michael Olowokandi situation.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Sat May 10, 2003 6:28 pm

Andrew makes sense, because I believe the hype has the most influence today. LeBron James will be number one, and now that I read Andrew's post and give it some thought, Milicic could go #2 over Carmelo Anthony.

If you talk about the best players in the NBA, at the top of the list is Duncan 7'0", Kevin Garnett 7'0", Shaquille O'Neal 7'2" after them in my opinion are Kobe 6'7" and McGrady 6'7" (maybe the heights are not exact but you get my point)

The past two Rookie of the Year's were around 7'0" (Gasol and Stoudemire 6'10")

But maybe the greatest player of all-time was a 6'6" 195lbs guard.
Any arguements to that player would be at least 6'9" or taller.
I guess the dream is that LeBron could be the next rare air.

by **Nel** on Sat May 10, 2003 6:44 pm

do you have any stats of Darko Milicic?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sat May 10, 2003 6:56 pm

From his NBADraft.net profile:

http://www.yuba.org.yu/igrac_stat.php?igrac=84

by **Matthew** on Sat May 10, 2003 7:18 pm

Right, Bowie was a disappointment but notice that Portland was not going to draft a Shooting Guard a year after they Got Clyde Drexler, another terrific SG and if you know what I'm talking about, you wouldn't make the mistake of getting a shooting guard when you don't need it, especially when you didn't know what MJ was going to do. Houston went to get Yao Ming, terrific player but not the best of the Draft since he was not the one taking the Rookie of the year, however, the Rockets took what they needed and that's good for the franchise. You can't blame those teams for getting what they need when they do it, that's why there's a draft, you don't take the player people think you should but you take player you are really in need to, if you want to win of course.

If Portland was (really) smart, they would've traded Drexler for a good centre and drafted MJ. But its a bit harsh to pick on them considering they had drexler. But imagine if they took Barkley instead of Bowie. Charles and Clyde wouldve been better than Clyde and Sam Bowie. No matter which way you look at it, they got a huge bust.

As for Milic or however you spell his name, you cant say he is better becuase he plays against higher competetion. If thats the case, Melo is better than Darko, becuase he played in the NCAA tournament. Lebron is supremely talented, and thats why he will be drafted number 1, not becuase of he accomplished as a high school player.

by **toni kukoc** on Sun May 11, 2003 4:23 am

Andrew wrote:If history is anything to go by, Milicic is pretty much assured to be a top 3 pick, since talented young players with potential have been popular choices in recent times, especially with players like Kobe and KG entering the league at a young age and establishing themselves among the NBA's elite. Milicic is also 7'0" 245 (according to nbadraft.net), and big men tend to be chosen ahead of guards and swingmen.

That would suggest Darko will be taken ahead of LeBron, but it seems to be a forgone conclusion that LeBron will be something special, and there's almost too much hype for him to be taken with a lower pick. Then again, the best player doesn't always go first (as has already been mentioned), and no one wants a Pervis Ellison/Michael Olowokandi situation.

i agree with you andrew. I think if milicic was playing in america he would has bigger chance of going first.

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Sun May 11, 2003 4:54 am

If Portland could do it all over again they would trade Drexler and the 2nd pick overall for Jordan.

I think the Charles Barkley thing makes great sense as well, not to mention that right there in their backyard at Gonzaga (Washington)
was John Stockton. I know that they wouldn't have taken him at #2,
but this was truly a huge bust.

by **The Big Racist** on Sun May 11, 2003 5:02 am

[quote="paul_pierce_the_truth"]If Portland could do it all over again they would trade Drexler and the 2nd pick overall for Jordan.

if they could do it all over again then they would draft jordan

by **Rens** on Sun May 11, 2003 5:23 am

A backcourt of Jordan and Drexler would've been one of the greatest ever, or what about a combination of Drexler and Jordan at the wings? Would Drexler have done better, as good or worse than Pippen?

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