Paul Pierce: Kobe has nothing on me!

[beau_boy04]

Well to each their own, BUT if you're going to argue that Kobe > Pierce, then you have to agree that Iverson is better than Kobe, because AI has the same weaknesses in his game but got better results:

AI: 30.7 ppg 4.59 TOs 42.4% FG 7.9 APG
Kobe: 27.6 ppg 4.09 TOs 43.3% FG 6.0 APG

since they both play the same position (guard) its fair to compare them. AI had an amazing year last season, he indeed got better numbers than Kobe, however 1-on-1 Kobe is superior player.

[Drex]

Why don't we bring T-Mac, too. And every other G on the League

[Balla69]

paul pierce just isn't my type of player.

but he did play thru some stabbing a while ago, remeber that?

tho he bitches and looks soft, i think he's one of those truly misunderstood players.

he's got guts, i give him that. but how often has he shone in the playoffs?

kobe has won plenty of playoff games on his own merit, while being a young un.

until pierce starts stepping up, getting considered for first team like kobe, and winning some playoff ballgames more often on his own merit

he can't say that stuff about kobe. its unwarranted, probably just to raise his own stock

[.]

since they both play the same position (guard) its fair to compare them. AI had an amazing year last season, he indeed got better numbers than Kobe, however 1-on-1 Kobe is superior player.

Iverson plays Point-Guard, thats something else then being the Shooting-Guard. It may sound impossible but Iverson as a PG has the ball more then Kobe as a SG.

[DB]

"The only reason I’m not on the all-defensive team year in and out is that I don’t have a top-five shot-blocker on my team. Kobe (Bryant) fell off the all-defensive team when (Shaquille O’Neal) got traded. Bruce, Ron Artest - if you look at it, every (one of those) teams has an all-defensive wing player and a top shot blocker. I think that’s the only thing that’s holding me back.” ~Paul Pierce

http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics ... eid=111799

STFU paul and play your damn game jeez!
What's with all the dissing? Kobe did nothing
wrong to PP and while PP is busy dissing Kobe,
Kobe's just playing his game...and good.
Kobe is also arguable the hardest working
player in the league! Show some respect fool.

[Fenix]

Get easy with that enter button.

PP is going nuts.

[magius]

nice poem.

and he's right, he's nuts, but he's right.

[Doobie]

poem , where??

Anyways , Kobe is alot better then peirce , but when I think about SG/SF the first five names that pop in my mind are
1-Kobe Bryant
2-T-Mac
3-Lebron James
4-Paul Peirce
5-Vince Carter

I've always thought Paul Peirce was up there with Kobe and T-mac , not better , not that close , but hes up there.

[maes]

Take it easy there Kobe, Pierce was ranting against all defensive players, Artest, Bowen as well as Kobe.

And it's not all just insane ranting...Scottie Pippen (who helped define what a defensive SF should be) said the exact same thing.

[DB]

LOL i overreacted, but everyone seems to be
hating on Kobe. Let him just play his game .
I'm still bitter about PP's first comment

[Its_asdf]

Pierce should not continue to run his mouth like this, it's just making him look even worse than he already is.

[Kbryant8]

I hope that Pierce will eat he`s words soon...

[ShAuN]

Im a Pierce fan alot, but he needs to just shut up and proove it. Instead of bitching and complaining just play the game. If you read the whole article, he said Wade has Shaq Bowen has Duncan and Prince has Wallace, well Wade and Bowen are a better defender than him without a doubt. Tayshaun Im not to familiar with his game but whatever.

The bottom line is Pierce just stfu and proove it on the court.

[Rip32]

Celtics Lakers is gonna be an awesome game.

[Fresh8]

So if he's complaining abou having nobody... who does Kobe have exactly?

Cause when Kobe gets on the Defensive All-NBA Team, I will laugh!

[#12]

what the fuck is pierce thinking? is he stupid are something? he's just jealous that he's not a good defender as kobe, bowen, artest. Pierce needs to shut the fuck up

[j.23]

i agree he should stop running his mouth and let his game speak for itself, but he does have a point. he's also pretty ignorant though, i guess he didn't catch kobe shutting down t-mac two years ago and held him to only two points after half time.

[Stevesanity]

Cant all you bandwagon/real Kobe fans put all KB8 related talk in one thread for once?

There's a damn thread everyday on Kobe vs someone or Kobe did that, Kobe is having a child, Kobe got a new car, Kobe prefers crab over lobsters.

You could have at least had some common sense to post it in the Kobe vs Pierce thread, air gordon where are you?

http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic31046.php

[Fresh8]

Then one of the mods can merge this thread with the other PP thread. It's all good!

[Matt]

Pierce needs to cool it. He's not on Kobe's level offensively and he can't play D like Kobe.

As for the big man theory, that probably has relevance but you still have to be a good defensive player....otherwise Camby's game would make Melo onto the Def Team.

I'm thinking Iggy will make the 1st or 2nd team this season, regardless of whether or not Dalembert is there.

[ShAuN]

Well I mean Kobe has Odom and Kwame who are better shotblockers than Blount. But I agree Pierce DOES need to stfu. But the only thing is, WTF is everyone talking about? This is Pierce saying he should be on the All Defensive First Team, why is everyone bringing up Kobe?

[Balla69]

PP is going to lose it.

those baggy eyes speak the TRUTH

too much weed, son, too much.

thats why he loves the boston green, marijuana is the 'erb

shaq called pierce the truth, i call his baggy eyes the real truth

[maes]

Well I mean Kobe has Odom and Kwame who are better shotblockers than Blount. But I agree Pierce DOES need to stfu. But the only thing is, WTF is everyone talking about? This is Pierce saying he should be on the All Defensive First Team, why is everyone bringing up Kobe?

He's not talking about Odom & Kwame...lol.

Pierce is talking about when Kobe made all defensive teams, which is when Shaq was on the Lakers. Now that Shaq is gone, Kobe doesn't even make the 2nd team.

I first read this when Pippen made a statement about who should be DPOY and it's popped up again a few times. The theory is that you can ride your man hard if you have an monster paint defenders like SAS or Detroit.

They've done some research and it seems to be true for some players. For instance Tayshaun Prince has very good defensive ratings until Wallace & Sheed take their break (and he's usually in still), then his defensive ratings go down dramatically...although it's not very good proof because Wallace & Sheed barely took any time off last year so there's not a lot of data to work with. It could have been coincidence.

Delambert and Camby might have good stats, but the reality is, for whatever reason, the Sixers and Nuggets do not protect the paint all that well. The best teams at protecting the paint last year were SAS, Detroit, and the Bulls.

And in case you're wondering, a lot of people are suspicious why Chris Duhon is the #1 rated defensive Point Guard last year and Ben Gordon one of the highest rated SGs. And the Bulls do use that strategy of putting a hand in their guy's face and forcing him to drive to the basket...where he meets with Curry-Chandler-Davis. And while Curry might not be the best guy to defend other big men, he has no problem getting his hand up in front of some 6'1" point guard trying to drive into his area.

[Balla69]

i hate it when guys put hands in front of another playa

i nearly got my eye poked out during this 3on3 comp

refree didn't even call a foul

the stupid fool guarding me should get sued

i'll poke his eyes the next time i see him


sorry, back to point
i think defense like that is just plain underhanded and nasty
not to say anything it ain't legit
but that just isn't how the game is played
poking peoples eyes out...
best defense is a good offense i always say
scottie was a good lockdown man
i don't think he drove many guys to a overpowering center

[1CenT]

you guys really gotta watch pierce play before you say anything that he can't play D like kobe..
I seriously don't see kobe any better than PP on D..
Bowen just sticks to his man, and leads him to TD, this has been said many times..

Prince on the other hand can play D, i see him even lead them to the Wallace brothers or sag off then challenges hard with his 7 footer wing span and his very good vertical leap..

AK47 can play D, big ben can play D.. GP can play D back then!...
Marion is a little softer than Prince but maybe b/c he doesnt' haf a big man to back him up if he gets too close.