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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 am
Kaka's awesome... I take credit for discovering him.
When I was living in England about 3 years ago, I had absolutely nothing to do so I started playing CM 02/03 on Xbox... anyways one day I was playing with AC Milan and I was going through Brazilian teams and found this guy playing for some Brazilian club called Kaka. I paid about 11 million pounds for him and he dominated. Then a couple of years later, Milan sign Kaka

I'd never even heard of him before I found him on CM.
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:18 am
Kaka has the nicest shot I've ever seen.. I saw some video clips on him practicing with the Brazilian nation team.. he was taking shots on Dida and making them all.. these were all outside the 18. Young guy too, promising future
Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:20 pm
Legend, why do you have Giuly so high in your list??
Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:27 pm
i didnt mean to rank the players.. but I definately think he's top 5 in the world.. hes amazing.. many havent heard of him that much but he's on teh rise.. watch out for him in the world cup
Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:34 pm
Well he made a big money move to Barcelona before last season so he's fairly known now. I've only seen him a couple of times, he's a good player but I prefer someone like Pablo Aimar or Andreas D'Alessandro.
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:58 am
It's Andres D'Alessandro.
And Giuly's fast as fuck

I'd like to see a race between he and AI.
Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:01 am
Eh, what's an A when you live nowhere near Argentina.
Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:07 am

Good point, "Je"
Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:02 pm
I used to see Kaka play when he was in Sao Paulo, so I probably saw him before all you guys, hahah! -_-;; Anyhow...I also used to do the same thing Jae did in Championship manager, take him out of Sao Paulo, as well as Marcos. Yea, he was destined to be a star. I used to have a Sao Paulo Uniform with his signature and Marcos' (Brazilian goal keeper sub) signature. I haven't seen Kaka in person though, but I have seen Marcos. But I have seen Pele. In fact, he was right behind me, entering the airport. I actually didn't know it was Pele until much later because he did NOT look 60 in any way. He looked like if he was in his late 20s or early 30s wtf?
Pele is the best soccer player. He had a much more longer consistant career than Maradona for one thing. However, to argue that to an Argentinian is impossible. Not to mention his total goals is almost insurpassable.
The best players, right now:
1. Ronaldinho
2. Henry
3. Roberto Carlos (He is seriously underrated. He can do EVERYTHING. He's like a Scottie Pippen in that he doesn't get much spotlight but he is essential to the team.)
Plus experts say if there was an all time team, this guy would be the only one starting in the team. He is truly unique.
4. Ronaldo...yea he's getting old..but he's not too old..he's sort of one dimensional, but he sure can score for one thing. Maybe I'm a bit biased about this one because I score most of my Winning Eleven/PES goals with him...bleah.
5. Nedved
Best Players of All Time
1. Pele
2. Maradona
3. Yashin (er...if we're counting goalkeepers..)
4. Beckenbauer
5. Eusebio
Zidane is maybe in the 20s in the all the list, or in the 30s. No way is Zidane top 3 all-time.
Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:27 am
Pele is the best soccer player. He had a much more longer consistant career than Maradona for one thing. However, to argue that to an Argentinian is impossible.

So true...
Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:30 am
ZIZU is one of gratest of all time, great to see him back in uniform. France now will be def stronger
Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:14 am
i never said top 3 of all time. I said top 3 of the FIFA list of 2004
EDIT: oops hes actually 5th best in the world according to this
http://www.fifa.com/documents/fifa/even ... er_men.pdf
Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:16 am
Yea but the guy who posted after misinterpreted it.
I still think Roberto Carlos is better. Bleah.
Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:00 am
Best Players of All Time
1. Pele
2. Maradona
3. Yashin (er...if we're counting goalkeepers..)
4. Beckenbauer
5. Eusebio
I'd take Yashin outta there and replace him with Garrincheh (forget how to spell his name)
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:23 pm
Garrincha.
Yea he's also a great player, probably the second best Brazilian player. Yet, being in the same era as Pele, he gets overshadowed by him most of the time.
However, Yashin has so many saves it's crazy though. 270 clean sheets and over 150 penalty saves. Yes, it part luck since it's almost impossible to save a penalty by looking at the shot first, but still, it's quite impressive.
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