Franchise mode is a mess (PC)

[LarBrd33]

They fixed a few things, but damn... they need to fix about 100 other things. As a whole, i'd say the franchise mode is a complete freakin mess... And man, would it kill them to add drop down menus and sliders ? It's a freakin PC game for gawd sakes. Very disappointed in this garbage. Ive been disappointed in this series since 2001

[Donatello]

wow......how insightful.....and no, this isn't really a pc game, it's a port of a console game. and i haven't a complaint about 2005's dyasty mode, i think you are the first person i've heard anything negative from. prepare for flames

[Wormy10]

They fixed a few things, but damn... they need to fix about 100 other things. As a whole, i'd say the franchise mode is a complete freakin mess... And man, would it kill them to add drop down menus and sliders ? It's a freakin PC game for gawd sakes. Very disappointed in this garbage. Ive been disappointed in this series since 2001

This is the best dynasty mode i've played out of all of them
So shut the hell up
You ignorant bastard
Wow, actually I may be wrong, but this is the first time I have said anything negative to anyone on this forum, except for Homer

[Donatello]

yeah i think i'll join in....

bloody moron. oh, and it's called DYNASTY mode.

[LarBrd33]

Alright, Alright. I'll admit i'm spoiled, because I'm use to playing games like Fast Break Basketball which get the statistic engine down perfect and are easy to navigate through. Also PC versions of Madden 2005, which still can be a pain in the ass, but are far superior to this mess of an attempt.

For a port i imagine it's alright, but for a PC game it's crap. It's just a lot of little things that have compounded it irritate the crap out of me.

The whole "scouting" thing is a waste of time. I've just resorted to writing down on sheets of paper who is young and who has a potential of "excellent" or "good". The idea of scouting out a player and bringing him in for a workout was nice on paper, but it basically ends up pointless. The PDA is a nice idea in theory, but it its the most annoying thing in the game thus far...

Trading: Holy crap If I was new, I'd be completely lost. First of all, having no idea what the other team is interested in is a huge hindrince. In games like madden when you set up a trade at least it gives you a bit of an inclination if the other team is interested prior to the trade. Also, it gives you no warning if it can't be performed due to salary reasons. For a beginner who doesn't understand salary cap, you telling me they have to wait 2 days to get a PDA message saying "sorry, but this doesn't work due to cap reasons". Come on... it's irritating.

Offering contracts: i've come to find out there is no negotiating if you don't wanna spend 45 minutes trying to sign someone. You just sign them to whatever they want... No ability to negotiate a bit.

Stats: What's with the fact that when I look at a player's history, it doesn't even show me what they averaged... just shows me how many points they scored and how many rebounds they pulled down... etc. That's a pretty idiot thing to do... who actually cares how many points a player scored... I want to know what they averaged.

All in all the navigation is a mess and the dynasty mode is a brutal mess.

[LarBrd33]

oh yeah, what about little no brainer things like the ability to have a different buzz for each different kind of PDA message. If I'm waiting for a team to offer me a trade, I just hear that freakin buzzer going off every second whether its just to tell me one of my bench players stubbed his toe or so and so on some other team is opting out of his contract (or some nonsense of that sort). Who gives a crap. I wanna break that stupid pager.

[HuskiesCeltics]

I agree the PDA is the most annoying thing.

I would like something like the e-mail system in MVP 04

[Wormy10]

Yea it gets very annoying
How did the email thing work? I never heard of that

[HuskiesCeltics]

There wasn't any noise.

It is basically the same thing

In the top left corner it would have a picture of a envelope and next to it it says how many new e-mails you have.

[Donatello]

when it's a medical issue, the noise is different, just FYI

but, yes, i wish it could be turned off. i expressed that wish when i first rented it for gamecube...annoying little bugger.

[LarBrd33]

ah the other thing that is nerving me. In previous versions when I wanted to find a guy to trade for, i'd go to ... Player Statistics I think. I'd sort them by overall rating (to see who I could possibly trade for). And check players out. It's just helpful down the line when half the league is computer generated and the former superstars of the league are old and gray.

I Think i use to be able to go to player statistics.. have it show all teams and then sort from there. But now when I go to player statistics, there is no way to "show all teams". You have to go team by team. Another big annoyance for how I play the game.

[LarBrd33]

also... did they do away with the player progression screen? Is there no way to find out how a player has progressed year after year other than just writing it down? Add that with the fact then when you view a player, it doesn't freakin show you what he's averaged year after year (just total points, total rebounds... etc)... really screws me up. I can see taking away certain things to make it more of a challenge (like not showing a player's potential during the actual draft... only prior to the draft), but jeeze... If i'm going to build a dynasty, i'd like to know what a player was capable of. Just a complete brain fart by the developers.

[LarBrd33]

while I'm ranting. I'm a long time fan of this series. I get it year after year. But it just always amazed me how they neglected the Dynasty mode. It's always been my favorite part of games. I remember back in like 2001, High Heat Baseball licenced the baseball mogul engine or something for their franchise mode. Why can't NBA Live do this? Buy out one of those steller text based statistical GM simulators for Live such as Fast Break Basketball or Total Pro Basketball for the Dynasty mode. Then they can focus on perfecting their ... dunk contest, while someone with a brain will perfect the GM aspect of the game. Jesus, why hasn't this happened already?

[Hotshot]

You do know you can edit your posts, right?

[Wormy10]

Yea, instead of making 3 seperate posts

[Metsis]

They really should think about making this game to PC first and then port it to the consoles... Is the porting process so difficult that it's better to do it this way...

If they made the PC version first, we'd get a much higher quality game overall, when the creators would be able to give us PC guys a game that would be what it should be and a port of the better game to the consoles... I would think that even the console players would be happy with it as they would certainly not miss anything and would probably get a better game too.

PC has just so many resources that the consoles can't even start to compare... We deserve a better game and a port from a good PC basketball game would be better as they would have to work out how to get all those sweet things done on the consoles. Some features might not be as good as they would be on the PC, but the game would have more variation, more options and wouldn't have to come out with the crappy 640x480 graphics that it is at the moment.

[SkipToMy_Lou]

Trading: Holy crap If I was new, I'd be completely lost. First of all, having no idea what the other team is interested in is a huge hindrince.

Umm, what do you mean by that?
You can see which player the other team is interested in

[Checco]

I totally agree with LarBrd33. Dynasty mode sucks. Besides the navigation problems through the menus, besides the PDA not having any chanche of being setted in order to decide what you really care and what not, besides the fact that you need 3minutes and 25seconds to add 20 millions dollars cause they decided to add even 10thousand dollars (in a negotiation of an Nba Star they think that the parts involved bargain on a 10 thousand dollar basis?!? Poor idealistic guys..). Besides all these stuff, the players rating hasn't any understandble logic, worst than 2004, maybe before was too easy, but the antagonist of easy isn't without logic.
The creation of rookies it's even worst.... Come on..basically they didn't want to seriously develop a dynasty mode and they just randomly add some stuff copyed by the whislist. I can't recognize any serious work in the dynasty mode. I do not understand how some people don't see all the bugs...bye

[LarBrd33]

what's the deal with the top point guard averaging 6.5 assists in my dynasty mode? And the scoring champ averaging 23... wtf?

[LarBrd33]

how do I find out who won the title in previous years? I mean, does thing keep a record of anything? What a piece of crap

[.]

Maybe you dont have 12 minutes set for simulating?

[-BHZMAFIA-]

what's the deal with the top point guard averaging 6.5 assists in my dynasty mode? And the scoring champ averaging 23... wtf?

thats realistic, because you won't expect tmac to average alot of pts on the rockets and it suppose to be yao's team anyway.

[Mark.]

mmmm I do think the overall scoring is a bit low, the league leader in my dynasty is PP with 26.7 I think I think 28 would be acceptable for a league leader (approx)