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Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:32 am

Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:
1. Retro shoes files should go to main game folder. Retro shoes should be decade, if i didnt have model i want i use something similar, there shouldnt be current shoes in 80s or 90s rosters but there can be for sure 90s shoes in 80s rosters. Can you please tell me which player wear current shoes? Generic shoes sounds interesting.
2. Look at 1.
3. I have no idea what are you talking about. Im using this global because its universal for retro and current. Let me know when you will find better universal global and i will test and if it will be good i will put into mod. Im not global modder.
4. Not sure about which EOS you are talking about. 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 are finished. Can you point modern player in any of mentioned rosters. If there are some errors, its probably because of slimm edits.


1. and 2. - For example, i was playing 1985 Celtics vs Sixers and i noticed same type of generic shoes like in late 90s rosters, while missing old school shoes like, for example, Converse and Adidas Superstar shoes that were very common among players. Also, while playing 1996 Suns vs Sonics, most of players (except Kemp i think) had generic shoes in team uniform colors. Yes, i put shoes files into main folder. No problem if this is supposed to be this way, i know modding is not being magician :).

3. Well, global in the mod has some background graphics in it, because when i put, for example, modded default global.iff (with nba logo removed), those graphics dissapear. So my question was if it is possible to remove background graphics from the global.iff file in the mod, so we can use any global we want without loosing those cool graphics URB team made? It seems part of background graphics is in separate files, while other part is put into global.iff and when i change global, that part background graphics is broken.

4. I was trying 1997 EOS, Mavs team has Darington Hobson in staring 11, while Suns have Davis Bertans in the starting lineup (both modern seasons players). Also noticed some starting lineups in other EOS rosters are not end of season based on http://www.basketball-reference.com lineups end of season/playoffs games. That's why my guess was those were still WIP?

1,2. Bruh...can you please point generic shoes here. 1985 sixers vs celtics.
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All players wear old Adidas, Nike, Reebok or Converse.
3. Its not possible to take texture out of global and use them outside of global file.
4. Not sure what went wrong ( all i know its slimms edits ) but your report about 1997EOS is correct. Let me know about any others. 1997 looks ok.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:12 am

skoadam wrote:
1,2. Bruh...can you please point generic shoes here. 1985 sixers vs celtics.
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All players wear old Adidas, Nike, Reebok or Converse.
3. Its not possible to take texture out of global and use them outside of global file.
4. Not sure what went wrong ( all i know its slimms edits ) but your report about 1997EOS is correct. Let me know about any others. 1997 looks ok.


1. and 2. - Now i'm completely puzzled, because that is not how it looks in my game. This is how it looks in my case:

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Every Celtics and Sixers player with same generic team colors shoes. And it's this way with many 80s and 90s teams. Do you use something else? I pasted retro shoes part in main game folder.


EDIT: I managed to fix it - all shoes files without .iff extension should go to "Roaming/2K Sports/shoes" folder. It was not mentioned in instructions. Now all shoes are fine.



2. So does it mean only solution is not using "2k14 art files" part? Could you add alternative global (default 2k global with nba logo removed) as an addon? I won't blame you if you are not willing to do it.

3. Besides those players i mentioned, i noticed only starting lineups are not based on basketball-reference end of season/playoffs starting lineups. For example, in 1999 Warriors, Chris Mills is still starter like in non-EOS roster, while Antawn Jamison was end of season starting SF. Those are kind of things i was thinking about when i wrote not all starting lineups are like they should be based on basketball-reference. I didn't browse team by team in every EOS roster to give you more specific feedback, it was just a notice from my end.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:46 am

Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:
1,2. Bruh...can you please point generic shoes here. 1985 sixers vs celtics.
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All players wear old Adidas, Nike, Reebok or Converse.
3. Its not possible to take texture out of global and use them outside of global file.
4. Not sure what went wrong ( all i know its slimms edits ) but your report about 1997EOS is correct. Let me know about any others. 1997 looks ok.


1. and 2. - Now i'm completely puzzled, because that is not how it looks in my game. This is how it looks in my case:

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Every Celtics and Sixers player with same generic team colors shoes. And it's this way with many 80s and 90s teams. Do you use something else? I pasted retro shoes part in main game folder.


EDIT: I managed to fix it - all shoes files without .iff extension should go to "Roaming/2K Sports/shoes" folder. It was not mentioned in instructions. Now all shoes are fine.



2. So does it mean only solution is not using "2k14 art files" part? Could you add alternative global (default 2k global with nba logo removed) as an addon? I won't blame you if you are not willing to do it.

3. Besides those players i mentioned, i noticed only starting lineups are not based on basketball-reference end of season/playoffs starting lineups. For example, in 1999 Warriors, Chris Mills is still starter like in non-EOS roster, while Antawn Jamison was end of season starting SF. Those are kind of things i was thinking about when i wrote not all starting lineups are like they should be based on basketball-reference. I didn't browse team by team in every EOS roster to give you more specific feedback, it was just a notice from my end.

Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:46 am

Good work on this skoadam and URB team! truly legendary! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Here's a few errors or mistakes I've counter so far:
1997 EOS Roster: Sedale Threatt is missing on the Houston Rockets (late season addition). I remember vividly he was on the playoffs series when Stockton hit that buzzer beater shot to send them to the 97 NBA Finals.
1998 EOS Roster: Dontae Jones has "Lebron James" portrait (His located in the FA team)
2020 Roster: Stephen Curry 3pt rating is 54...that seems kinda low for him in my opinion.

*Also is there an option to bring back the old menus art (before Kobe..). I kinda dig that better.

Other than that, love all the updates made. Keep up the good work.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:22 am

sevin0seven wrote:Good work on this skoadam and URB team! truly legendary! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Here's a few errors or mistakes I've counter so far:
1997 EOS Roster: Sedale Threatt is missing on the Houston Rockets (late season addition). I remember vividly he was on the playoffs series when Stockton hit that buzzer beater shot to send them to the 97 NBA Finals.
1998 EOS Roster: Dontae Jones has "Lebron James" portrait (His located in the FA team)
2020 Roster: Stephen Curry 3pt rating is 54...that seems kinda low for him in my opinion.

*Also is there an option to bring back the old menus art (before Kobe..). I kinda dig that better.

Other than that, love all the updates made. Keep up the good work.


Curry was 12 of 49 from 3pt land this year for a 24.5% 3pt % which is equal to a rating of 54. Given it was because of his injury, but it is what it is. Raising it higher than that would make him (and GSW) better than they should be in this year's roster.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:29 pm

sevin0seven wrote:Good work on this skoadam and URB team! truly legendary! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Here's a few errors or mistakes I've counter so far:
1997 EOS Roster: Sedale Threatt is missing on the Houston Rockets (late season addition). I remember vividly he was on the playoffs series when Stockton hit that buzzer beater shot to send them to the 97 NBA Finals.
1998 EOS Roster: Dontae Jones has "Lebron James" portrait (His located in the FA team)
2020 Roster: Stephen Curry 3pt rating is 54...that seems kinda low for him in my opinion.

*Also is there an option to bring back the old menus art (before Kobe..). I kinda dig that better.

Other than that, love all the updates made. Keep up the good work.

Thx for your kind words.
Im not a big fan of adding new players. Sedale number of games looks rly low for Houston in 1996/97 season but his minutes looks ok. Maybe i will consider and add him in next releases.
Dontae Jones have LBJ portrait because he was no portrait guy. When i was adding new portraits ID for LBJ i didnt know that Jones whos cf id is the same as new LBJ portrait. You will see a lot of similar situation right now ( less known players).
Why im not worry about this? Because my next BIG project is Quality portraits for ALL players, so even guys like Dontae will get his portrait at some point.
Stephen situation was cleared by slimm. It was turrible shooting season for SC and URB is based on real stats so 54 is where he should be.
I will post old menu, hope i still have it.....

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:51 pm

skoadam wrote:Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.


That is wierd. I know your first guess was "hey he didn't paste retro shoes files at all". But i'm pretty sure i did. Maybe there was some pasting error on my side.

In any case, issue is solved, shoes work perfectly and you and your team did a heck of a job with it! I didn't turn up any modern 2k game after installing this, that tells you everything.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:31 pm

skoadam wrote:
LBL wrote:Is it only for me that Brown from Bulls in 1996 roster don't have a head, but have bright white hands?

Tho I downloaded only retro stuff...

Checked. I have no idea what you did but for sure you forgot to download retro CFs parts. REMEMBER! DOUBLE TRIPLE CHECK, THEN REPORT.
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Then his CF is inside modern stuff, because I just checked with RED MC that his CFID is 41 and in NONE of 7 retro CF parts there is a png0041.iff file...

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:40 pm

Yes it's in CF 1 from the modern files...

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:26 pm

slimm44 wrote:Curry was 12 of 49 from 3pt land this year for a 24.5% 3pt % which is equal to a rating of 54. Given it was because of his injury, but it is what it is. Raising it higher than that would make him (and GSW) better than they should be in this year's roster.

skoadam wrote:[Stephen situation was cleared by slimm. It was turrible shooting season for SC and URB is based on real stats so 54 is where he should be.
I will post old menu, hope i still have it.....


Well since your base ratings are on yearly stats, then I don't have any issue with that :cool: . Back when I was still making roster files for "UBR" that's how I did my calculations (90% stats), other 10% left was for talent. Great job on the ratings! Very realistic. (Y)

skoadam wrote:Im not a big fan of adding new players. Sedale number of games looks rly low for Houston in 1996/97 season but his minutes looks ok. Maybe i will consider and add him in next releases.
Dontae Jones have LBJ portrait because he was no portrait guy. When i was adding new portraits ID for LBJ i didnt know that Jones whos cf id is the same as new LBJ portrait. You will see a lot of similar situation right now ( less known players). Why im not worry about this? Because my next BIG project is Quality portraits for ALL players, so even guys like Dontae will get his portrait at some point.
Stephen situation was cleared by slimm. It was turrible shooting season for SC and URB is based on real stats so 54 is where he should be.
I will post old menu, hope i still have it.....


I do hope you will consider adding Sedale to the 96/97 Rockets team...if not maybe you can put him on the Free agent pool at least (His also not there either for both 1997 EOS and beginning).

*Also I discovered another error:
1997 EOS Roster: Suns have Davis Bertans on the roster. Not only on the roster; but his also on the starting five. His CF is not him as well. He wears #23..I thought it was Tishdale at first, lol (Which should be).
Speaking of Tishdale his later CF png14245 (95 to 97) seems to not look like him...CF seems more light skinned (like Barkley) than his Sac King's CF (This CF is perfect btw...maybe just make it bald for his later years).

Hope you still have the old menu. This MOD rocks! and you have my full support :cool:

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:42 pm

I just fixed the 2015 roster, the Elite roster, the 2019andElite roster, and the 2020andElite roster. The 2015 Warriors are now correct in the Elite rosters and the 2015 roster is correct.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:27 pm

Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.


That is wierd. I know your first guess was "hey he didn't paste retro shoes files at all". But i'm pretty sure i did. Maybe there was some pasting error on my side.

In any case, issue is solved, shoes work perfectly and you and your team did a heck of a job with it! I didn't turn up any modern 2k game after installing this, that tells you everything.

Yes its weird, this is why i must ask all other URB users. How your retro shoes looks? Simply check...load 1985 Roster and check Larry Bird.
Shoes update took me so much time. Its even worst in 2K13 where im tryin to be more accurate with shoes. Shoes part for me its one big indescribable massacre and when i hear that something is wrong or i hear "generic shoes" word im on :fire: :wink:

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:34 pm

slimm44 wrote:I just fixed the 2015 roster, the Elite roster, the 2019andElite roster, and the 2020andElite roster. The 2015 Warriors are now correct in the Elite rosters and the 2015 roster is correct.

2020 and elite :oops: :oops: :oops: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

thanky you!

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:56 am

skoadam wrote:
Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.


That is wierd. I know your first guess was "hey he didn't paste retro shoes files at all". But i'm pretty sure i did. Maybe there was some pasting error on my side.

In any case, issue is solved, shoes work perfectly and you and your team did a heck of a job with it! I didn't turn up any modern 2k game after installing this, that tells you everything.

Yes its weird, this is why i must ask all other URB users. How your retro shoes looks? Simply check...load 1985 Roster and check Larry Bird.
Shoes update took me so much time. Its even worst in 2K13 where im tryin to be more accurate with shoes. Shoes part for me its one big indescribable massacre and when i hear that something is wrong or i hear "generic shoes" word im on :fire: :wink:


To take the burden off your chest - i removed all files from "Roaming/2K Sports/shoes" folder and they all seem to be working.

So i have no other guess than bad pasting on my side. So i apologise for eventual wrong report.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:58 am

skoadam wrote:
Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.


That is wierd. I know your first guess was "hey he didn't paste retro shoes files at all". But i'm pretty sure i did. Maybe there was some pasting error on my side.

In any case, issue is solved, shoes work perfectly and you and your team did a heck of a job with it! I didn't turn up any modern 2k game after installing this, that tells you everything.

Yes its weird, this is why i must ask all other URB users. How your retro shoes looks? Simply check...load 1985 Roster and check Larry Bird.
Shoes update took me so much time. Its even worst in 2K13 where im tryin to be more accurate with shoes. Shoes part for me its one big indescribable massacre and when i hear that something is wrong or i hear "generic shoes" word im on :fire: :wink:


I was playing a game of 2K13 1985 season Bulls vs 76ers and I noticed Charles Barkley of the 76ers and Dave Greenwood of the Bulls had custom shoes I think they were wearing Lebron's but I could be wrong.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:56 am

El Chapo wrote:
skoadam wrote:
Mister_No wrote:
skoadam wrote:Well my shoes folder (Roaming/2K Sports/shoes) is empty.


That is wierd. I know your first guess was "hey he didn't paste retro shoes files at all". But i'm pretty sure i did. Maybe there was some pasting error on my side.

In any case, issue is solved, shoes work perfectly and you and your team did a heck of a job with it! I didn't turn up any modern 2k game after installing this, that tells you everything.

Yes its weird, this is why i must ask all other URB users. How your retro shoes looks? Simply check...load 1985 Roster and check Larry Bird.
Shoes update took me so much time. Its even worst in 2K13 where im tryin to be more accurate with shoes. Shoes part for me its one big indescribable massacre and when i hear that something is wrong or i hear "generic shoes" word im on :fire: :wink:


I was playing a game of 2K13 1985 season Bulls vs 76ers and I noticed Charles Barkley of the 76ers and Dave Greenwood of the Bulls had custom shoes I think they were wearing Lebron's but I could be wrong.

cmon, you must be sure. For me it looks like Air Max...dont have correct shoes for Barkley in 2k13...but LBJ shoes? Make a screenshot please.

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Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:45 am

It's weird cause all the other players seem to have the correct shoes.

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Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:54 am

El Chapo wrote:It's weird cause all the other players seem to have the correct shoes.

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can you please check your shoes folder first? Remove all (make a copy). Then check. If its still the same, re-paste my shoes one more time.
Or...in your situation...i think Air Max shoes was original in game. Maybe you overwritten this file with lbj shoes at some point?

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:04 am

I will try to help because this scenario is most possible.
Please re-download 2k13 retro shoes part. I added original air max there.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:52 am

Problem has been solved I downloaded the retro rosters again everything works fine now.

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:25 am

Anyone else getting sent to an error page when trying to download the current roster files?

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:08 pm

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Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:58 am

ramos8414 wrote:Anyone else getting sent to an error page when trying to download the current roster files?

Me too. But I think they are reuploading current rosters

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:12 pm

hi skoadam,the new update is excellent! :D this remind me some idea: 1)can u or your team set a formula that dennis rodman can change his head color for every single game randomly just like 90's basketball video games did? :lol: 2) how can i add 90's playoffs and finals logo on the floor when i play in playoffs mode? thanks

Re: U R Lazy - WHERE SIM HAPPENS ! RETRO Rosters UPDATE! 4TH AUGUST!

Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:51 pm

li8076335 wrote:hi skoadam,the new update is excellent! :D this remind me some idea: 1)can u or your team set a formula that dennis rodman can change his head color for every single game randomly just like 90's basketball video games did? :lol: 2) how can i add 90's playoffs and finals logo on the floor when i play in playoffs mode? thanks

1. Sry no idea how
2. I think its not possible. We choose quality over playoffs logo, but i can be wrong. This is how i remember why playoff logo not show up on higher resolution courts. Correct me if im wrong.
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