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Postby benji on Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:09 pm

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Postby Kevin on Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:19 pm

Screw you DJ. Even Howard won't try to do that.
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Postby mp3 on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:11 pm

Love that tweet by Clyde !

I won't believe that Jordan is with he Clippers till I see him playing in a regular season game.
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Postby ThePointForward on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:14 pm

Andrew wrote:But it does reinforce the old saying that - right or wrong - a verbal or handshake agreement is only worth the paper it's written on.


On my vacation in Turkey I was told that when haggling for price when either party verbally agrees with the price the contract is considered valid and backing out is socially unacceptable. It's a different culture and haggling is completely new level, but I think that it's very comparable with player contract negotiations.
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Postby iamSamke on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:40 pm



This guy is hilarious
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 pm




It felt like some wrestling promo. WWE watch this guy, he has charisma
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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:04 am

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Andrew wrote:But it does reinforce the old saying that - right or wrong - a verbal or handshake agreement is only worth the paper it's written on.


On my vacation in Turkey I was told that when haggling for price when either party verbally agrees with the price the contract is considered valid and backing out is socially unacceptable. It's a different culture and haggling is completely new level, but I think that it's very comparable with player contract negotiations.


I think in most cultures, going back on your word is unacceptable, or at the very least, a major faux pas. There are always extenuating circumstances, but it's never a good look, and doesn't do much to build trust.

I'd say that Jordan made his decision without actually completely making up his mind and being comfortable with that choice. His mistake was giving the Mavericks a verbal agreement to the terms they were offering, when he should've indicated that he was interested in their offer and leaning towards accepting, but he'd still be hearing the Clippers out before making up his mind. If he does that, then there's still disappointment in his decision, but he's at least handled his business professionally. Instead, he jumped the gun, and ended up making a mess of things.
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Postby Kenny on Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:59 am

Broussard :lol:
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Postby Kevin on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:04 am

Seriously wondering when Cuban will go bankrupt because of the fine he's been getting.
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Postby deihatein on Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:07 am

:( :( :(

At least wes matthews is willing to stay.
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Postby stereoxide on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:08 am

Kevin wrote:Seriously wondering when Cuban will go bankrupt because of the fine he's been getting.

The money he has allotted to free agents that didn't come to Dallas is more than enough for these fines. :lol:
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Postby Kenny on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:46 am

I bet Cuban was really looking forward to that Ivory Back Scratcher too.
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Postby mp3 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:18 am

Did anyone read that open letter he posted to Mavs fans?
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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs...or not...

Postby Kevin on Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:17 am

stereoxide wrote:
Kevin wrote:Seriously wondering when Cuban will go bankrupt because of the fine he's been getting.

The money he has allotted to free agents that didn't come to Dallas is more than enough for these fines. :lol:

True, true.

mp3 wrote:Did anyone read that open letter he posted to Mavs fans?

Not sure if he did post an open letter, though. All I see are open letters from journalists saying he is a big baby that needs to grow up.
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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs...or not...

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:43 am

Judging the winners and losers in the DeAndre Jordan fiasco

Aghast at the unwritten rules that Jordan and the Clippers broke? Get over yourselves. The more unwritten rules sports leagues ignore the better off they become. Unwritten rules for years have ranged to from the innocuous (like headband placement) to the socially damning (like limiting the number of African-American players on your team).

So the Mavericks hate the Clippers now. So they probably won’t ever trade with each other ever again (have they ever?), and the NBA’s two most blustery owners (in Cuban and Clipper boss Steve Ballmer) will have an uneasy time at league meetings. Again, so what? Just because you want to get haughty and make a point?

DeAndre Jordan’s move is somewhat unprecedented, but that doesn’t mean it will to spark a trend. It was obvious even when he agreed with the Mavs that this was easily the most regrettable move of the offseason so far, and in the end he made the right move and ticked off just one basketball team in 30. The league-wide transaction (and failed transaction) ramifications that emanated from Jordan agreeing with the Mavs ripple out further, but we’re pretty sure Roy Hibbert is going to like it in Los Angeles.

In the end, a grown man decided he wasn’t comfortable with a career and life-altering decision he made, and he decided to renege on a non-binding agreement in order to make what he (and most others) felt was the right choice for his career. Whether your career stretches until your late 60s or (as with NBA players’ cases, if they’re extremely lucky) your late 30s, this is freedom and flexibility that needs to be sustained.


It's still fair to criticise the way the situation was handled, but I can see Freeman's point there.
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Postby Jackal on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:02 am

Parsons: “He wasn’t ready for being a franchise player. He was scared. He was scared to take the next step in his career. There was no other reason other than that he was comfortable and he has friendships there. How you make a business decision like that is beyond me. How you ignore an owner like Mark who is in your hometown just waiting for a chance to talk to you is beyond me.


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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:04 am

Mind you, if the Mavericks were expecting him to be a franchise player...
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Postby Jackal on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:07 am

Haha I read a comment from some guy that basically said maybe that scared Deandre. He should come out with a statement like; if I'm your franchise player then we've got bigger problems. :lol:
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Postby Stress Fracture on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:05 pm

Jackal wrote:
Parsons: “He wasn’t ready for being a franchise player. He was scared. He was scared to take the next step in his career. There was no other reason other than that he was comfortable and he has friendships there. How you make a business decision like that is beyond me. How you ignore an owner like Mark who is in your hometown just waiting for a chance to talk to you is beyond me.


Parsons spitting fire!

espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4705530/chandler-parsons-qa-we-did-everything-that-we-can


Did Parsons just assumed DJ is their next franchise player? Damn.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:37 pm

The NBPA comments:

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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs...or not...

Postby Kevin on Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:40 pm

"I’m shocked, very disappointed, frustrated, disrespected. This is something that I’ve never seen in my career, and I know that it doesn’t happen very often."

DeAndre just ended Dirk's career and disrespected the whole Mavs franchise.
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Postby atlwarrior on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:25 pm

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BE LIKE THAT SOMETIMES BRUH
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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs...or not...

Postby NovU on Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:41 pm

Ok. I could have overlooked DJ's immaturity as a mistake in this ordeal and probably let bygones be bygones in the future. But how things were handled by Clippers was nothing I could respect. Ofc the Mav players and fans are righteously upset. They were mocked. embarrassed, and disrespected.

Clippers knew the Mavs and DJ set up a meeting, they stripped them off their chance aggressively while their players making mockery of the situation. I'd be pissed too if same happened to my team.

But I will admit it was extremely funny because it's just between Clips and Mavs.
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Re: DeAndre Jordan to join Mavs...or not...

Postby Maverick on Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:45 pm

Stress Fracture wrote:
Jackal wrote:
Parsons: “He wasn’t ready for being a franchise player. He was scared. He was scared to take the next step in his career. There was no other reason other than that he was comfortable and he has friendships there. How you make a business decision like that is beyond me. How you ignore an owner like Mark who is in your hometown just waiting for a chance to talk to you is beyond me.


Parsons spitting fire!

espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4705530/chandler-parsons-qa-we-did-everything-that-we-can


Did Parsons just assumed DJ is their next franchise player? Damn.

At this point, every player the Mavs sign will be titled a 'Franchise Player' :lol:
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