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Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:41 pm

Who here smokes? It can be cigarettes or weed.... just be specific if you're going to say "I smoke".

I gave up cigarettes 2 weeks ago. I didn't smoke a lot but it was enough to notice a change in my health. I would only buy cigarettes when I had been drinking which amounted to once or twice a week. Nevertheless, the cigarettes which I only really craved when I was drunk would be around when I wasn't, which had me smoking at least a little all week long which was more than I liked. So I quit. I have to say, even as a casual smoker, it is very difficult. I'm drinking a few cocktails right now, which has me wanting to buy some cigarettes and I keep telling myself its "OK" if I buy clove cigarettes, or some variance on the regular kind. This past July I was smoking pot at a clip of an ounce every 3 weeks, and I quit 100% cold turkey without cravings at all. At present I only smoke pot if someone offers it to me (which is very infrequent) and I haven't bought any since July with no strong desires to do so. I think it really shows just how much worse and more addictive cigarettes are. I was a heavy pot smoker and only an occasional cigarette smoker, and yet I am finding that cigarettes are so much harder to give up even though I found exponentially more pleasure in the herb.

Anyone care to share their experiences?

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:51 pm

I've never liked cigarettes but I used to smoke quite a lot of weed, and now that I'm older I've been smoking and learning a lot about hand-made cigars. Collecting various cigars has become somewhat of a hobby for me actually, and learning to enjoy a good cigar and appreciate its origins is very much similar to getting to know about wine, which is also of high interest for me.

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:01 pm

I smoke weed sometimes but not too often, hate cigarettes. Cigars are ok but seem largely pointless to me because I'm not sure what their purpose is.

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:25 pm

I smoke cigarettes , one package a day , so that's 20 of them , damn how much money I spend on them :oops:

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:58 pm

Used ta puff duh ganja, mane. Replaced it with cigarettes when I quit. Started to smoke almost half a pack a day, and started getting cravings right after having one. Then someone suggested to smoke cloves if I am going to smoke. Love them. There isn't much craving in cloves, if any. When I am at home I take a quick smoke on the porch but rarely finish more than half of it. Stupid FDA/Obama had to ban them in cigarette form, but they came back as "filtered cigars." Same shit with a tobacco paper. Not horrible, but not the same. So yeah, like 7-8 half-cloves per day.

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:05 pm

Jae wrote:I smoke weed sometimes but not too often, hate cigarettes. Cigars are ok but seem largely pointless to me because I'm not sure what their purpose is.

Vice versa here. I smoke cigarettes but hate weed. And I find cigars pointless as well... unless you are an old man who wants to look cool, like Larry Bird in sauru's avaTard.

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:34 pm

I smoke rolled cigarettes, but not that much, like one a day or something in that range. I only do it because I like it, but don't really feel like I "need" it. For example I can totally stop smoking for a week or something and it won't really bother me. I also smoke weed, I've been doing it for about 3 years now. Smoke basically every week-end with friends (wether it be parties or just chilling out), and about once a week alone (Even though I live alone, I try to control myself or I know I'll get nothing done :) ). I smoke a whole lot on vacation as well.

BTW, I figured I love posting on forums while high, it just becomes so easy to post totally random things I love it :lol:

Re: Smoking

Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:44 pm

i smoke both, really bad habit to get into. started off as a casual smoker - at the bars and what not, then became a full blown smoker. i'm probably up to around 12-13 cigarettes a day. i quit for two weeks so i decided to reward myself with a cigarette, and then it just snowballed from there. dumbest logic ever. setting another quit day after new years, hopefully this one sticks. i'll be graduating university in a couple weeks, so i won't be able to use stress as a scapegoat anymore.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:39 am

Had cigs 3 times (hammered every single time). First time somebody had left an almost full pack at the bar. Bartender asked if it was ours. We said no but we'd take him. Was a few years ago when my grandpa was dying (from lung problems ironically enough, still stress makes us do stupid things). After a few drinks, i decided to see what the fuss was about. Kinda a mistake because i now sorta understand the appeal. Other 2 times were at parties. Now in times of extreme stress, i think about getting a pack of cigs. Then i remember how they're killing my dad and i stop.

Weed twice. Got stoned as shit the first time, thought i was just tired. Another time had a couple hits after a night at the bars, didnt feel anything, the guy loading the pipe was the drunkest ive seen someone be and still be conscious though, there wasnt much in there and i wasnt the first toke.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:13 am

I'm appaled that people on here actually smoke. And I mean the so-called legal toxins, not the illegal drugs that are destroying our inner cities and our children. I'm talking about cigarettes. Maybe you people need to learn some facts.

The highest and most expert scientists of this nation recently determined that smoking a single cigarette could kill you. Read that again, one cigarette could kill you. And yet we keep allowing this to be legal? To be sold in just any store? It's absurd.

And that's not even discussing the fact that when you smoke you're killing everyone around you and the people in their homes when they return home with the smoke soaked into their clothes. Thankfully we have passed some laws to protect the rights of the American people which ban smoking in bars, restaurants and such, but all they do is just smoke outside creating this kind of gateway of toxic fumes that give you lung cancer. You're basically trapped inside due to these criminals who wish to destroy your lives for their own sick pleasure.

There's no benefit to smoking so why do we as a civilized nation allow it? Actually, when you think about it, we have websites where you can look up sex offenders, I say we need this for smokers. Then you can find out if they're anywhere near your children stealing years from their lives and murdering your neighbors. This is a completely sensible reform and only those selfish criminals who want to take everyone down with them would oppose such a common sense modern policy.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:31 am

Your absolutely right. Let's all stop smoking and breathe in clean air. It's not like its polluted or anything. Let's just drink instead, because we all know alcohol is healthy and makes us feel good. Also, we should prosecute people who cough and sneeze when they are sick, because its obvious that the virus is triggering the reaction to export its "offspring" into the air and infect other hosts. People are just incompetent and don't realize that they helping the virus when they can easily decide not to cough and sneeze.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:49 am

Paul23 wrote:There's no benefit to smoking so why do we as a civilized nation allow it?


It treats Parkinsons.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:50 am

That doesn't make sense at all. Alcohol is just as terrible and needs to be eliminated from a proper modern civilized society. No other civilized nation tolerates abuse of alcohol, so why should we?

Prosecuting people for getting sick may be a bit much, but there is no reason we should not have the government innoculate and immunize everyone. People who resist are as you note resisting and therefore harming the health of the rest of us and that's almost as insane as smoking cigarettes. I'm not sure we should make them criminals but we should at least make them get vaccinated and hold them until they are clear and unable to harm anyone else.

If we don't have the ability to eliminate a virus or disease, I don't see how it's not a completely reasonable policy to quarantine those who have any virus or problem of any sort. And we can grossly improve public health by placing alcoholics, smokers and other drug users in this same regime until they are cured. I'm not sure how we've gone on without these completely rational policies in place when so many seem determined to endanger lives of their fellow Americans rather make sure society progresses as it should be designed to.

If we restrict the government in the face of these simple problems it can solve then how can we allow it to address the greater problems we will face in the future?

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:57 am

Paul23 wrote:If we don't have the ability to eliminate a virus or disease, I don't see how it's not a completely reasonable policy to quarantine those who have any virus or problem of any sort


That whole little thing where we said everyone is free to life ,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Should I be quarantined for having no legs? I'm betting you say yes despite my lack of contagion.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:27 am

mandich wrote:I smoke cigarettes , one package a day , so that's 20 of them , damn how much money I spend on them :oops:

I wouldn't be concerned on how money you spent, I would be concerned on your health man. 20 cigarettes a day, that's just too much. :|

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:40 am

And I find cigars pointless as well... unless you are an old man who wants to look cool

That's really not the point at all, but different strokes for different folks I guess.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:56 am

Thierry • wrote:
mandich wrote:I smoke cigarettes , one package a day , so that's 20 of them , damn how much money I spend on them :oops:

I wouldn't be concerned on how money you spent, I would be concerned on your health man. 20 cigarettes a day, that's just too much. :|

1 cigarette a day is too much guys. Never smoked. Never will.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:41 am

z02 wrote:1 cigarette a day is too much guys. Never smoked. Never will.


Jesus, brainwased much? Look dude, i said that shit at 17 too. Things happen, your view on the world will change, you'll feel differently about things. I know several people who have had close family die from smoking and say "ill never do it." But when the chips are down and you need somewhere to turn to (for the non religious of us who dont have jesus with us every day), any kind of chemical appears helpful. Whether thats a good thing or not well thats your own place but a couple of cigarettes once in a blue moon is not going to kill you

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:49 am

I smoke marijuana. Well I haven't in about 3 months, but it's not like I quit. I just haven't found a drug dealer in my current town and that's not the kind of question you ask random people.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:00 am

Oznogrd wrote:
z02 wrote:1 cigarette a day is too much guys. Never smoked. Never will.


Jesus, brainwased much? Look dude, i said that shit at 17 too. Things happen, your view on the world will change, you'll feel differently about things. I know several people who have had close family die from smoking and say "ill never do it." But when the chips are down and you need somewhere to turn to (for the non religious of us who dont have jesus with us every day), any kind of chemical appears helpful. Whether thats a good thing or not well thats your own place but a couple of cigarettes once in a blue moon is not going to kill you


Thanks but no thanks Oz. :D

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:05 am

z02 wrote:Thanks but no thanks Oz. :D


If you get through college/living away from home without smoking a single cigarette, i will never call you stupid for playing basketball in wet leaves again.

Deal?

This should go in the bet tracker thread :lol:

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:07 am

Oznogrd wrote:
z02 wrote:Thanks but no thanks Oz. :D


If you get through college/living away from home without smoking a single cigarette, i will never call you stupid for playing basketball in wet leaves again.

Deal?

This should go in the bet tracker thread :lol:

Go for it.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:49 am

Paul23 wrote:I'm appaled that people on here actually smoke. And I mean the so-called legal toxins, not the illegal drugs that are destroying our inner cities and our children. I'm talking about cigarettes. Maybe you people need to learn some facts.

The highest and most expert scientists of this nation recently determined that smoking a single cigarette could kill you. Read that again, one cigarette could kill you. And yet we keep allowing this to be legal? To be sold in just any store? It's absurd.

And that's not even discussing the fact that when you smoke you're killing everyone around you and the people in their homes when they return home with the smoke soaked into their clothes. Thankfully we have passed some laws to protect the rights of the American people which ban smoking in bars, restaurants and such, but all they do is just smoke outside creating this kind of gateway of toxic fumes that give you lung cancer. You're basically trapped inside due to these criminals who wish to destroy your lives for their own sick pleasure.

There's no benefit to smoking so why do we as a civilized nation allow it? Actually, when you think about it, we have websites where you can look up sex offenders, I say we need this for smokers. Then you can find out if they're anywhere near your children stealing years from their lives and murdering your neighbors. This is a completely sensible reform and only those selfish criminals who want to take everyone down with them would oppose such a common sense modern policy.


websites for smokers? are you serious?

you're not going to see smoking go away anytime soon. the government makes a killing from taxes through cigarette sales

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:49 am

Pdub wrote:Your absolutely right

*You're. Sorry, it's my #1 pet peeve right now.

Oznogrd wrote:Jesus, brainwased much? Look dude, i said that shit at 17 too. Things happen, your view on the world will change, you'll feel differently about things. I know several people who have had close family die from smoking and say "ill never do it." But when the chips are down and you need somewhere to turn to (for the non religious of us who dont have jesus with us every day), any kind of chemical appears helpful. Whether thats a good thing or not well thats your own place but a couple of cigarettes once in a blue moon is not going to kill you.

It doesn't mean what you or your friends went through will apply to him.

I never understood the concept of giving a corporation lots of money for little chemical sticks that make you stink, hinders running, and turn your teeth nasty. I see absolutely no benefit.

And I'm almost convinced that Paul23 is benji's alter ego.

Re: Smoking

Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:11 pm

Let's say the awareness on Cigarettes has defiantly increased.
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