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Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

LeBron James
11
42%
Dwyane Wade
2
8%
Chris Bosh
1
4%
Eric Spoelstra
5
19%
Boston Celtics
3
12%
Other
4
15%
 
Total votes : 26

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:55 am

Valor, he should have gone to Chicago, then they'd be the one sucking right now. :lol:

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:08 am

None of the big three are to blame. They're all adjusting (as you've probably seen me type before) and there's no real doubt in my mind that after some time, they will be one of the best trios in NBA history. LeBron is NOT the problem; he is not sucking. He's averaging what most of us expected to see. 20-25 ppg. The bench is underachieving so far because it is missing its top two players, Miller and Haslem, for long periods of time. Wade hasn't been all that healthy either. I don't think anybody expected Bosh to replicate his stats from Toronto, so his 18/7 average isn't surprising me at all.

Regardless of whether or not Jackal calls me a Heat cocksucker, I do believe Miami's big three will produce a couple of NBA titles: not this year, but in the future. They have to adjust to playing with other players of their caliber. None of these players (Wade, Bosh, or LeBron) has really had a really good teammate up to this point.

The injuries and the slow speed of the Big Three's adjusting are to blame equally.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:36 am

z02 wrote:LeBron is NOT the problem; he is not sucking. He's averaging what most of us expected to see. 20-25 ppg.

On the other hand, a lot of his numbers are lower than at any point in his career other than his rookie season, some are lower than even that.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:45 am

Not far below though. As I've said way too many times before, HE IS ADJUSTING.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:56 am

Tracy McGrady's take, for what it's worth:

"That's why when they're on the court together, they're terrible. They're rhythm players that need the ball. I'm like that. I can't stand out there and catch and shoot. I've never been a guy that sits out there waiting for the ball to come to me."

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:02 am

Honestly, a LeBron to New York situation or Chicago would've fit him better. The Heat aren't his team, it's D-Wade's.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:22 pm

Andrew wrote:Tracy McGrady's take, for what it's worth:

"That's why when they're on the court together, they're terrible. They're rhythm players that need the ball. I'm like that. I can't stand out there and catch and shoot. I've never been a guy that sits out there waiting for the ball to come to me."


I'm going to have to agree with T-Mac's on this one. They just don't fit together because they're the same type of players. Boston's big three works because Pierce, Allen and Garnett all have very different roles and playing styles which in the end complements each other. Heat's trio however, doesn't complement each other in a way that will dominate the game. I also have to admit that T-Mac's biggest enemy is the microphone though.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:43 pm

Houndy wrote:Honestly, a LeBron to New York situation or Chicago would've fit him better. The Heat aren't his team, it's D-Wade's.


Or Mavs.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:18 am

Andrew wrote:Wojnarowski's latest column suggests that LeBron's attitude has a lot to answer for and alleges that he's clumsily trying to shift the blame

if it was anyone else wrote this i would say it's just another article to stir the pot. one thing though- i find it hard to believe that all of a sudden Wade has changed his loyalty with spoelstra

i vote blame the media 75%. 25% LJames and his group

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:34 pm

It could be a case of reading too much into the remark, but with the 10-8 start who knows. We all know how coaches may convenient scapegoats, maybe Wade is buying into it.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:58 pm

wade and lebron both need the ball in thier hands, both prefer to attack the basket and tend to be streaky from the perimiter. and bosh isnt a back to the basket low post threat.... he's a mid range shooter. how to solve the problems?
move wade to the point and start running a pick and pop or give and go with bosh. having the ball start in wade's hands instead of both he and lebron having to get open means they can get into thier offence quicker....
also run a high post triangle with bosh at the top of the key and lebron on the wing. get miller to spot up on the weak side to fire up the 3 when a double comes to the strong side...or when anthony or Z get the board. having a shooter on the weak side that you have to respect will mean one less wing player to double lebron on the other side, so he has the other team's point guard trying to double him instead... all bron needs to do is post, spin either way away from the double team, shoot over or drive... lebron has it beat. the coaches need to play to the strengths of the team. look at this line up... very similar to the 90's bulls yes? perhaps not as good, but the peices fit. look at wade and lebron both playing the roles of pippen or jordan within the offence, depending on who brings the rock up the floor. (both brought the ball up the floor, more often than the pointguard did) bosh is a bit like horace grant on offence. i can see this working very well... so long as they move the ball, dont isolate so much and play unselfishly. and save the highwire act for the fastbreaks...

pg wade (jordan/pippen)
sg miller (paxon)
sf bron (jordan/pippen)
pf bosh (grant)
c anthony/Z (cartwright)

get that tool of a point guard out of the starting lineup and let wade run the offense.... and move the fucking ball! pick and roll! triangle! no more pull up 3 pointers from 35 feet (im talking to you lebron) stop gambling on defense, and lock it down!

end rant. carry on!

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:16 am

Houndy wrote:Honestly, a LeBron to New York situation or Chicago would've fit him better. The Heat aren't his team, it's D-Wade's.

It would be awesome if LeBron played at New York as well.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:46 am

It would be awesome if Badger didn't post anymore as well.

dare wrote:As for Spoelstra his should adjust his style I read in some article that he is being very strict to his players.

Strict? Just wait till LeBron gets coached by Riley. He'll have fun with Pat's 4 hour practice sessions.

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:06 pm

*cough cough* the OP spoketh too soon methinks *cough cough*

who is the culprit now???? 12 game win streak....

Re: Who is the main Culprit in Miami?

Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:57 pm

At the time, it was a valid question. Needless to say, it's working out a lot better right now.
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