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Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:42 am
vinceair wrote:shadowgrin wrote:But Earl has the strength to play in the NBA even with his height. He can bench 300 lbs.
Maybe with special bench press shirt. If there is no video proof then it's bs.
It's probably a one rep lift. It's on his NBA.com bio
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/earl_boykins/bio.htmlUp to you to believe it or not. But absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence. Sounds familiar?
Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:47 am
dopeboy23 wrote:The fact that they both aren't athletic doesn't mean they are equally talented.
He's a Japanese !
They would rather kill themselves rather than live a shameful life !
Think about what kind of fire he can bring on the court !
With that mindset , I'm sure this guy has a tremendous Work Ethic , Energy and Passion for the Game .
and maybe this guy is better than Barea , well just maybe .
Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:55 am
Don't tell me this guy is Asia's finest PG. There should be better talents out there. Yuta I don't think he ever belonged to NBA anyways.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:58 am
If he was better than Barea, he should be on active roster right now. But there is some point in what you said. Not basketball related, but that still counts: during a hockey match between national teams I've seen a japanese player blocking a shot with his teeth, literally..

He lost 7 of them, but there was no goal..
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:07 am
MikeMan™ wrote:With that mindset , I'm sure this guy has a tremendous Work Ethic , Energy and Passion for the Game.
But those do not necessarily translate to success in the NBA. Case in point I can think of right now is Mark Madsen.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:12 am
What about Kobe and Barea too ?
especially KG and Rodman !
Those guys have tremendous energy and passion for the game ! ( Rodman3x !

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Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:20 am
in mma you'll get to see japanese guys going to sleep because they refure to tap.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:31 am
MikeMan™ wrote:What about Kobe and Barea too ?
especially KG and Rodman !
Those guys have tremendous energy and passion for the game ! ( Rodman3x !

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But the 3 out of 4 guys you mentioned have more physical ability and talent than the average NBA player.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:34 am
That's where Work Ethic steps in .
If he keeps himself better season by season , month by month and day by day he'll be a much better than what he is now .
My tip for him , Just keep practicing .
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:40 am
Work ethic gives you almost nothing without talent. It can help in NCAA, but not in the NBA.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:51 am
Practice Makes Perfect .
Example : Mugsey , ain't got no physical ability and he's really small but still survived the NBA .
Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:57 am
Well put. If you dont have any talent work ethic is not going to help. Coaches do appreciate work ethic but unless you are improving you wont get the playing time anyway.
Example : Mugsey , ain't got no physical ability and he's really small but still survived the NBA .
He's talented. That's what seperates them from each other.
Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:18 am
Mugsy in his prime was ripped. Check out those guns (no homo):
Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:05 am
He also had pretty good leaping ability, great footspeed and quick hands in addition to the skills that he'd honed. He had the skills and a different kind of natural physical advantage to compensate for his lack of height.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:01 am
Well, in response to Tabuse's talent, the guy has tremendous court vision and a great feel for the game. quote from his former ABA coach "He automatically changes the game because of his quickness and distributing the ball. He's the best fundamental player I've been around in a long time," and of course, fundamentals are the one of the most important things that a player needs.
i can see him getting himself a place on the Mavericks' roster if he does well in the camp and chances will be higher if Jason Kidd doesn't resign. Tabuse's speed, quickness, and point guard skills will make up for his lack of size, if he works on improving his jumper, he'll be a decent backup guard that can play 5-10 minutes per game.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:23 am
If Kidd leaves Dallas, they will need a PG who can play more than 5-10 mins, since Barea isn't experienced enough. That's why they might skip Tabuse. And I'm not so sure that he can improve enough to stay, especially at his age. I'm not saying it's impossible though.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:10 am
they will sign a capable player to fill in for Kidd if Kidd leaves, but Tabuse might get in also since as you said, Barea isn't experienced enough, they are not just going to rely on the new guy and/or Barea, they need someone else to fill in also
Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:21 am
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Work ethic has nothing to do when you want to play in NBA.You need talent and some serious luck.There maybe a lot of players who could play ALOT better than James for example.But those talented guys will never make it.They may be poor to go in university, or they live in some shitty country where their country doesn't put much money on basketball or whatever.There may be other reasons too.Sad but true.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:39 am
vinceair wrote:/OFFTOPIC/
There maybe a lot of players who could play ALOT better than James for example.But those talented guys will never make it.They may be poor to go in university, or they live in some shitty country where their country doesn't put much money on basketball or whatever.
No. No. No... Name one guy who could be better than James and stopped playing. Scouting starts from 10-11 years, at least in USA. There's no way that that kind of talent would be left without attention. No way.. About Europe, there are not so many that talented players (all stars, for example), so the chance is even smaller.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:00 am
There maybe a lot of players who could play ALOT better than James for example.
I'd say this is true for many players in the NBA, but saying that they're better than James is quite a stretch, especially if they're playing in a completely different league such as in Europe or overseas. That can make the comparisons a lot more difficult to guage because of the different style of play and talent level.
They may be poor to go in university, or they live in some shitty country where their country doesn't put much money on basketball or whatever.
Actually, "poor" athletes usually have athletic scholarships that can usually pay for almost all of their college expenses. In this day and age it's very easy to scout and develop talent from all areas around the world, so unless you live in some remote part of the jungle in a tiki hut without any technology (which in that case you probably wouldn't be playing basketball to begin with) chances are you're bound to gain some recognition and have NBA teams at least take a look at your skill level.
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:06 am
so unless you live in some remote part of the jungle in a tiki hut without any technology
Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:34 am
To add to what I wrote above, it's almost impossible to play a lot better than James (I mean, a lot better). If you have the talent to be at least compared with him, you'll make to the NBA, not talking about college. I agree that such things could happen, let's say 40 - 50 years ago, but not now.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:59 am
vinceair wrote:Work ethic has nothing to do when you want to play in NBA.You need talent and some serious luck.
I'd agree to a certain extent, simply having a good work ethic alone is not enough. However, we've also seen very talented players have their careers derailed or their draft stock slip by their lousy work ethic and/or attitude, so I'd say it does have an impact on a player's chances of making it in the NBA. The talent definitely has to be there though.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:45 am
If we are speaking about attitude then Darko is not very smart,he seemed bit too cocky.He had some potential to be decent,but... there are but's.
Kwame had potential too,but he couldn't break out.I guess it's easier to get into NBA while you are studying in states.All of those nr 1 # pick busts had potential,but they couldn't open it.They have much media pressure on their shoulders too.Everyone expects superb game from them.If you can't get down with quality stats then your self- confidence goes down and down..And mentally weaker(not mentally ill,lol) players will be weaker and remain weaker.Self-confidence plays crucial role in game of basketball.
Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:33 am
this is the most one-eyed thread ive seen since the last one about dwayne wade
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