Official NBA Live 09 Wishlist Thread

[Andrew]

Welcome to the NBA Live 09 Wishlist!

This year we’re changing the format slightly. In the past, we simply separated a list of wishes for the upcoming game into different sections and compiled a shortlist of the most popular wishes. While this year’s list still aims to be detailed and comprehensive, we’re going with a new format that will hopefully better emphasise the things we feel the game needs, some other important additions or improvements that we’d like to see followed by miscellaneous suggestions for the new game.

Here’s a quick rundown of the new format:

ESSENTIALS: As the name implies, this section is for all the things we feel the game needs to have. In contrast to previous Wishlists that focused on missing elements and additions we’d like to see, this section may also including existing features that we don’t want to lose (such as Player Lock); in other words, all the elements we feel need to make up NBA Live. It will also include all “must fix” items, such as the sim engine and issues related to gameplay AI and Dynasty logic. Items in this section have the highest priority.

THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE: These items need not be essential for most players but will be comprised of much talked about and popular ideas for the series, as well as some. This section could probably best be summed up as things we’d like to see but their absence will not be as big a deal as an item missing from the Essentials section. Items in this section generally have lower priority.

THINGS TO FIX & AVOID: A shortlist of prominent and recurring bugs that get in the way of the game or otherwise bother us.

Before we begin, a couple of notes:

1. As always, we’re trying to do something constructive with the NBA Live 09 Wishlist so please keep the EA Sports bashing to a minimum. We want to be taken seriously here, so we’re after constructive ideas, not insults.
   
2. Please understand that what seems essential to some people may not seem essential to others, so we do have to exercise some editorial rights when compiling the Wishlists. It’s unlikely that everyone will agree with the list point-for-point, so please don’t take it personally if a suggestion does not ultimately make the Essentials list. What we’re trying to do is provide as accurate a cross section of the expectations and wishes of the NBA Live community as possible, so popular opinion counts. In other words, if you’re the only person who feels that adding the “Monstars” team from Space Jam is an essential move, chances are it’s not likely to end up in the Essentials list (and yes, despite being a huge Michael Jordan fan I’m going to veto that one right now).
   
3. EA Sports have indicated that the inclusion of elements such as unsportsmanlike technical fouls and fights is mandated by the NBA and the NBA’s stance is that they do not want them included in any video games with the NBA license. As such, they aren’t included in the Wishlist.
   
4. I myself am not a huge online gamer and as such I probably tend to overlook wishes concerning online play. Therefore, if you’re an online gamer and have ideas about NBA Live, please post them. We certainly do care about those issues and online players but those of us who are mostly offline/Dynasty players tend to think about other things.
   
5. Extra detail is certainly welcome, especially where a brief explanation would be beneficial. As I said before, we’d like to make the list as comprehensive as possible.

I believe that’s about all. So, without further ado, here is the NBA Live 09 Wishlist in progress.

ESSENTIALS

• Port the PC version from the Xbox 360/Playstation 3 version rather than the Playstation 2 version.
• Balance the shot distribution so that it is realistic (ie no position domination, correct players taking the most amount of shots).
• Ensure that all players (no matter what the position) fatigue and are automatically substituted at the same rate, according to their Fatigue ratings.
• Have each team run the specific plays they do in real life so that each team has its own distinct style and plays the same as their real life counterparts. Allow these players to change according to the players on the roster.
• Have players behave like their real life counterparts with different levels of logic, eg Steve Nash looks to pass but will also look to score if given the opportunity or the team needs it, Kobe Bryant looks to score first but can also find his teammates, etc.
• Adjust the simulation engine so that all players get true to life statistics based on their real counterparts, including bench players who normally play a significant amount of minutes.
• Smooth, realistic player animations/physics that the user can break out of (as with Quick Strike Ballhandling).
• Allow players to reorder their rosters through the traditional method (ie the same Reorder Rosters screen that is accessible from the main menu) in Dynasty Mode, so that players can easily change their starting lineup and bench order.
• Allow players to set their rotations (but make this separate from ability to reorder the rosters).
• Allow players to toggle between interest and contract information (size and length) on the Trade Players screen.
• Include the Free Agent negotiation mini-game and trading/counteroffer system from the Xbox 360/Playstation 3 version of NBA Live 08.
• Include the Mid Level Exception, Veteran Minimum, Bird Rights, 10 Day Contracts, etc in Free Agency.
• Make the offseason less linear, so that rather than progressing in stages, users can sign perform different offseason tasks throughout the offseason calendar.
• Reduce the number of trades involving star players and eliminate wildly unbalanced trades (ie stars for role players) that sometimes occur between CPU teams in Dynasty Mode.
• Bring back the option to make multi-team trades.
• Add a Trading Block feature where you can make players available to offers and see which other players are available.
• Allow users to select multiple teams in Dynasty Mode if desired.
• Make use of the "push" approach to Dynasty Mode, as used in the Xbox 360/PS3 version of NBA Live 08.
• Improved selection of All-Star teams, All-NBA teams and individual award winners in Dynasty Mode.
• East & West Player/Rookie of the Week/Month in Dynasty Mode.
• Adjust generated rookies so there are less undersized players, guards with low dribbling abilities and poor speed/quickness ratings and players whose height and weight is out of proportion (eg 5’11” point guards who weigh around 230 lbs).
• Factor playing time into player progression/development.
• Allow players to save games in progress so that they can finish them at a later time.
• Include Scenario Mode.
• Include Player Lock.
• Include the ability to save statistics screens, boxscores, screenshots and replays in all game modes.
• Allow players to select a 29, 58 or 82 game season in Dynasty Mode.
• Allow the creation of custom teams using a set of generic basketball themed art (or custom art we create ourselves)
• Add the ability to hire and fire head coaches in addition to other team staff.
• Allow player accessories to be modified in Edit Player.
• Include as many sliders as possible so that we can tailor gameplay aspects to suit our needs.
• Allow all gameplay sliders to be modified for online play.
• Discourage cheating in online play by punishing players who intentionally disconnect with a loss. This could perhaps be made fair by calling the result according to the current score when a disconnection occurs since most intentional disconnections happen when a sore loser has fallen behind.
• User profiles with the ability to track individual user stats.
• Display career stats in table format (ie similar to NBA.com and the back of trading cards) complete with career totals.
• Include a database of first and last names so that generated and created players can be assigned commentator/PA audio.
• Include Signature shooting styles and Go To Moves. Allow the user to manually trigger Go To Moves videos in Practice Mode.
• Add an expanded Practice Mode that allows players to practice free throw shooting and other aspects of the game.
• Allow the user to toggle the frequency of automatic replays.
• Utilise a more PC friendly user interface with the PC version that takes advantage of the mouse (drop down and pop-up menus, use of the scroll wheel, etc).
• Add the ability to control more than one team in Dynasty Mode or allow the users to switch teams more readily and easily.
• Place more focus on ratings so there are fewer overrated rookies/underrated players.
• Allow offensive players to dodge defenders to avoid committing a charging foul.
• Allow players to tie up with the ball, leading to a jump ball.
• Allow the user to select which player inbounds the ball, instead of always being the small forward.
• Allow teams to exceed the 15 player limit after a trade, but force the user to waive players as necessary.
• Allow players to effectively use their speed or size to take advantage of their opponents, particularly when there's a mismatch. Allow weight in particular to determine the outcome of collisions (particularly those in midair), ie players like Shaq still being able to get off good shots when bumped.
• Reward users for playing defense, particularly in the paint, rather than allowing the CPU to score at will once they get inside for a dunk or layup. Make it tougher for both the human user and CPU to score inside with better collisions and defensive presence.
• Expectations from the team Owner in Dynasty Mode.
• Increase the speed of passes (or the ball's flight) so that crisp passing can beat the defense if done properly.
• Add a voting system to kick users in Online Team Play who abuse the gameplay or try to spoil the game for everyone else.

THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE

• Single player career mode similar to Madden.
• Owner Mode similar to Madden.
• Expanded Practice Mode similar to NBA2K, including the ability to practice free throw shooting.
• Ability to track career milestones and break NBA records.
• All-Star voting in Dynasty Mode.
• Larger roster of international teams for the FIBA World Championship Mode.
• Team rankings in team selection screens (Scoring, Defense, Rebounding, Ball Control, Overall etc) similar to early NBA Live games.
• The skills challenge and shooting stars contest in the NBA All-Star Weekend
• Include retro jerseys for all teams in all versions of the game.
• Include Legends (including as many from the 90s who have disappeared over the last few years as possible) in all versions of the game.
• Weekly highlight/recap shows & fictional news articles in Dynasty Mode.
• More variation of musical genres in the soundtrack and/or the ability to easily import our own music.
• Realistic lighting and atmosphere in arenas, as well as cheerleaders, mascots etc.
• Have players on the bench wearing warmup gear (or suits if they are on the inactive list)
• Allow the user to edit Dunk Packages in Edit Player.
• Have players assigned to the D-League in Dynasty Mode for additional experience/training.
• Allow more than 15 players on the roster during the offseason, force the user to cut the roster to a maximum of 15 by the time the season begins.
• Display current game leaders in the pause menu.
• Facial animations reacting to the current action.
• Expanded commentary with remarks on a team's record and performance before and during the games.
• Create-a-Jersey Mode
• Signature shooting forms at the free throw line.
• Allow the user to add/remove players from the various All-Star and FIBA teams from within the game.
• Dynamic Player Shadows
• More realistic player intros without the artistic effects; something closer to actual intros as shown on TV.
• Fewer video game references from the commentary (ie in the Dunk Contest or when the wrong button is pressed).
• Add obstacles to leap over in the Dunk Contest.
• The ability to save and edit the default playbooks for all teams.
• Changing venues for the All-Star Weekend in Dynasty Mode.
• Skills Competition and Shooting Stars Contest in All-Star Weekend.

THINGS TO FIX & AVOID

• Shot attempts, particularly layups, resulting in the player being taken behind the backboard during the attempt resulting in the out of bounds call.
• Blocked shots counting for two missed field goal attempts instead of one.
• Player indicator disappearing when making a substitution through the pause menu.
• Lengthy loading times for the Xbox 360 version.
• Players stepping out of bounds or committing backcourt violations that aren’t called.
• Various graphical/clipping issues where players pass through one another or appear to be sitting on thin air instead of on the bench and coaches walking through the scorer’s table.
• Three point line in FIBA World Championship court inaccurate.
• Database errors (eg incorrect player bio data, positions, weird ratings).
• Framerate issues in the Playstation 3 version when bringing the ball upcourt.
• Avoid players stockpiling talented players at the same position, ie teams ending up with several highly rated generated point guards. Allow these players to slot in at another position if appropriate or avoid CPU teams creating huge logjams in their rotation.
• Alley-oop logic and physics, eg awkward passes and lobs to the wrong player. Allow players to jump straight up to catch lobs rather than always taking a couple of steps, since this often takes players out of bounds or behind the backboard.
• Remove the delay with the Direct Passing icons. Also, do not make Direct Passing a toggled on/off option but rather the traditional hold/on, release/off control method.
• Win/Loss stats when there's a disconnection during online play. In particular, the player who isn't responsible for the disconnection often gets assigned the loss, meaning sore losers can deliberately cause disconnections by "accidentally" pulling the plug and avoiding losses.
• The inability to switch players or move/box out when the CPU is attempting its final free throw.

Last edited by Andrew on Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:36 am, edited 2 times in total.

[kamiy]

I agree with your wishlist Andrew but I would like to add some more wishes.

ESSENTIALS:
create "custom teams" (It was an option till (I think) 2000)
save the game

THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE:
10 day contracts

THINGS TO FIX & AVOID
more useable go to moves (they are blocked too easily)

Last edited by kamiy on Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:23 am, edited 1 time in total.

[Andrew]

I've got both of those under Essentials, but I forgot about 10 day contracts. Thanks for the heads up.

[Beatboxer]

- ANIMATED JERSEYS WITH DEFORMATIONS & PHYSICS
- REAL 3D CROWD & CROWD ANIMATIONS & SOUNDS
- FILL STADIUMS WITH MASCOTS, CHEERLEADERS, BETTER LIGHTNING & CONTRAST (In old series stadiums look so empty & lifeless)


- ADD MENTAL RATINGS FOR PLAYERS SUCH AS DETERMINATION, AGGRESSION, COMPOSURE, TEAMPLAY, ETC...
- AND ADD DIFFERENT ANIMATIONS&CUT-SCENES RELATED THOSE RATINGS


- TEAM-BY-TEAM SPECIFIED PLAYBOOKS & PLAYS
- BETTER DEFENSIVE AI & DEFENSE ANIMATIONS
- BETTER PASSES WITH BETTER PHYSICS (Well done with Fifa 08 PC - I think it's better than PES 08)
- BETTER SHOOTING, DUNKING, and LAYUP VARIATIONS & ANIMATIONS
- GENERALLY SMOOTHER GAMEPLAY WITH BETTER PHYSICS (Well done with Fifa 08 PC)



NOTE: YOU CAN ADD A MOD LIKE FIFA 08's BE-A-PRO. IT WOULD BE VEEEEEEEERY COOL !

Last edited by Beatboxer on Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.

[agentkaos]

essentials
players cannot move if CPU want to commit offensive foul, allow ability to move and dodge
add 20 second timeouts
jump ball - ball must be able to go anywhere, not just to PG
allow change of default inbounder, ball handler.

we'd like to see:

a team moving coach a la fifa 06 onwards.. so we can transfer to other teams at the end of a season..
more player animation, pc PGs donot wave their hands to indicate plays.
no NBA LIVE logo swish between subs, timeouts and out of bounds - breaks immersion

things to fix:
interface is very clunky for PC

[mtcc]

Well would it be able to have various commentators i feel bored playing with the same comments over and over again

[step]

I would like to see free agents who aren't signed before the seasons starts to accept less and less as the season goes on.

[step]

Almost forgot.

The ability to save custom controller configs as default, or atleast an option to select it prior to playing an intervened dynasty game.

[david_the_big_ben]

EA have to do something with the pc versions cause in the last 3-4 series NBA Live looks too bad on pc and i think that we await something new on the pc. I want to play nba live like i play on xbox or playstation 2,3 i wanna feel good u know, people, tnks hey don't forget to reply

[sunjosh17]

oh and editing accessories and physical features of existing players in case they get haircuts or start wearing a head-band or if they grow facial hair

[Beatboxer]

I think, we should put the link of this thread into the official NBA Live 08 forum !

It's here:
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/category.j ... goryID=117

Don't know why, but i couldn't register

Please someone register & post this thread there !

[FREDtheBeerMan]

Just like in EA's Madden, NHL, and FIFA series sets, more teams from developmental leagues and other leagues from all over the world. And maybe even more dynasty modes for those leagues as well.

[0gilbert0]

THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE: Add commentators, especially when going to toronto raptors(home) Chuck Sworsky and Leo Rautins should commentate the game whenever a team comes to a toronto game...trust me there great ones and very exciting you should see them in real life.
2.THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE:Another one is every player should have there practice uniforms/sweatpants whenever they are in the bench or before they get sub in the game ex.Steve Nash lying down on the floor when playng with his practice/sweatpants on.

[0gilbert0]

o yah even though Andrew metioned it we should really add a career mode for 09.I know for a fact people would get this game if they added a decent career mode.

[FREDtheBeerMan]

I want to make a comment about having additional commentators. It may be a good idea when it comes to having it being more realistic. But the real drawback is that not only EA will have inconvenience just to get in touch with all those people, but also it would take up a lot of memory (and we're dealing with possibly tons of GBs) as the voice audio files alone are some of the biggest files (in terms of memory) in the game. I'm sorry about that.

[KitFisto]

How about the utilization of more than one core of a processor. Or does it already?

[cityhunter714]

Just don't keep removing any existing features.

I am disappointed at 08(PC) and now I think I understand why some people still keep playing the previous versions even though 07 is out.

You know what I'm talking about if u know how to play this game.

[airarch_23]

Yep Andrew, like yours, i wanna keep replay files for all game modes.. More like the replay of motogp URT 3,,( haven't buy motgp07 yet).. My list will soon follow..

[airarch_23]

You almost got everything to say Andrew.. Lets just hope EA will work out the things in our list.. I hope someone from NBA will criticize EA's work to make them effort more, let's say Stern..

[jamon51]

Nice work, Andrew.

How about being able to preview animated plays in the menu mode, so you could choose a good one and actually know how to execute it? It seems like an old NBA Live had that feature...but I'm not sure which one. '99?

[TheMC5]

-Ability to assign guys to d-league teams in dynasty mode
-realistic contract expectations in dynasty
-owner personalities in dynasty, whether random or true to life, so that some teams, i.e. Knicks, will have no qualms about going over the luxury tax threshold, whereas other teams might be limited to a certain level of spending
-ability to trade future draft picks
-multiple team trades
-coaches actually having an affect on team performance/playing style, perhaps some kind of "coaching philosophy" attribute (i.e. Jeff Van Gundy will emphasize defense, whereas Mike D'Antoni will emphasize fast breaks and offense), and have this applicable to CPU generated coaches

These next points are all somewhat related to the above point concerning coaching:

-CPU teams having the ability to change their playing style as their roster changes, for instance when Steve Nash retires maybe the Suns change playing styles to maximize the team's current strengths
-CPU teams having the ability to start guys who don't necessarily have the best overall rating, for example last year's Raptors started Rasho Nesterovic in place of Bargnani due to team needs
-CPU having the ability to play guys out of position, for example if Kobe Bryant and let's say Ray Allen end up on the same team, one of them would likely start at small forward rather than shooting guard, or at the very least one of them would get major burn at SF if they still came off the bench

Basically I'd like the CPU to focus on creating functional basketball TEAMS as opposed to merely collecting players and playing the ones with the best overall for the most minutes (this need not apply to the Knicks, though )

[loko_tomas]

- The ability to add more players on your roster before Training camp...

- Players should not only get injured on fouls...maybe when jumping/landing, running into another player...

- Intentional fouls should be more difficult, so the ballhandler has more time to move or pass the ball, and not stand around and wait

- Important: Don't cut of underrated free agents in dynasty mode, so you can also sign guys 40-60 ovrl.

[csepelball]

- TEAM-BY-TEAM SPECIFIED PLAYBOOKS & PLAYS
- BETTER DEFENSIVE AI & DEFENSE ANIMATIONS
- BETTER PASSES WITH BETTER PHYSICS (Well done with Fifa 08 PC - I think it's better than PES 08)
- BETTER SHOOTING, DUNKING, and LAYUP VARIATIONS & ANIMATIONS
- GENERALLY SMOOTHER GAMEPLAY WITH BETTER PHYSICS

[jbrodie1111]

Created Teams and MANY more slots for created players (at least enough to fill every roster). Also, in season or dynasty mode, it would nice to have the ability to see the other games and many as many teams as I want (to be the commisioner, if you will). I remeber this teature from the NBA Live PC version years ago and it was discontinued. I liked being able to add teams to the league as opposed to just replacing an existing one. I gues what I am asking for is more room for the imagination.

[jbrodie1111]

Created Teams and MANY more slots for created players (at least enough to fill every roster). Also, in season or dynasty mode, it would nice to have the ability to see the other games and many as many teams as I want (to be the commisioner, if you will). I remeber this teature from the NBA Live PC version years ago and it was discontinued. I liked being able to add teams to the league as opposed to just replacing an existing one. I gues what I am asking for is more room for the imagination.