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Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:39 am

It would be cool if the commentator in the arena would be screaming the names out louder when they score a basket and if there could be the commentator frmo detroit,miami or cleveland

Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:46 am

ESSENTIALS:

-have different blocking animations (nba live has had the same animation dating back since the first one!!! i want to be able to have monster blocks)

-ability to save replays

-add replays during practice mode

- wheres the one vs one feature from past nba lives?

-Playing FIBA during off season in dynasty

-ability to decline participation in all star dunk contest and 3 point shooting in dynasty

-during a game a players hot spot should change if he's doing well or poorly at one spot

-it would be pretty cool to have pre game warm ups, to determine how good you'll player will be during the game

-all players should have their own shot at the line (why does shawn marion shoot normally on the line?)

-it would be cool if you can see players actually come of the bench and wait at the side during subs

-have customs celebrations (like how Jose calderon puts his both his hands up with 3 fingers whenever he scores a 3 pointer)

-show play of the game after each game

-have a half time report

-have the top plays of the year in dynasty



THINGS TO FIX AVOID:

-inaccurate team and player rating (i cant believe you guys rated the raps as 69!!!)

-fewer missed lay ups( why would a pro ball player miss an open lay up!!! it happens so much to me!!)

-no one looks excited whenever i hit a game winning shot or when my team wins the nba championship!!!

-reduce the likeliness of players custom dunks (Lebron does his behind the back so often that its annoying to see, same with VC's tomahawk!)

-bad animations(for some reason some dunks and lay ups go into slow motion!! like Tmacs go to lay up)

-i want to be able to actually dunk on people (in live 08 the defensive players dont even go into some type of animation when being dunked on)

- how about being able to actually do a hop step without commiting a charge or turnover?!?!?!?!

-reduce the likeliness of commiting a charge (players online abuse this a lot)
Last edited by Joebob25 on Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:31 am, edited 5 times in total.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:09 pm

Thanks for the latest. Just a reminder, we're going with a slightly different format this year to try and emphasise the areas we feel are the most important. Check out the first post for more details.

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:15 pm

Ability to add/takeaway players from east/west all-star teams and the same with fiba teams. That’s one thing I would really like to see for next year

Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:46 am

got 1 more

THINGS WE’D ALSO LIKE TO SEE:

This year on the 360 version we can view player stats from inside the same. How bout EA comes up with a formula to translate these stats into ratings for the game. So we can have progressive rating changes throughout the year if we want them.

Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:17 pm

One for sure :

Dont block the goto moves!!!

Make them useable

dont block them like in nba live 08

Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:19 pm

Go To Moves shouldn't be unstoppable though. They'd be no better than FSS moves otherwise.

Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:18 am

Allright, here's my last wishlist:

Look at this screenshot from the NBA Live 2001 demo:
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So,
I'd like to feel like a real player on the court.
I want my teammates touch my hands at the freethrow line saying "Make it baby!" , "Finish it baby!", and i want them to clap their hands just like had been in the NBA Live 2001.(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6cLQoQs_E)
I'd like to see players, coaches, crowd react positively or negatively after a referee's decision.
I'd like to hear crowd chanting "MVP" after 50+ scoring performances.
I'd like to see crowd, players, coaches, mascots, cheerleaders, everybody in the stadium go crazy after a winner buzzer beater at home.

And please, make a simulation-like gameplay.
You can do it, because you put an option into the survey to choose if we prefer simulation or arcade.

Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:49 pm

Beatboxer wrote:And please, make a simulation-like gameplay.
You can do it, because you put an option into the survey to choose if we prefer simulation or arcade.


I certainly don't disagree with the suggestion but you may be oversimplifying there. ;)

Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:19 pm

Here is my suggestion :

ON the reorder roster screen.
When I click on any player I have to choose between swap, edit, or view, I think.
It sucks, I wish I could choose some default action for the 'session'. But I have to choose any time a click.

Here is my view on the actual wishlist :


Regress (It had before and they removed)


# Allow players to reorder their rosters through the traditional method (ie the same Reorder Rosters screen that is accessible from the main menu) in Dynasty Mode, so that players can easily change their starting lineup and bench order.
# Allow players to toggle between interest and contract information (size and length) on the Trade Players screen.
# East & West Player/Rookie of the Week/Month in Dynasty Mode.
# Allow players to save games in progress so that they can finish them at a later time.
# Include the ability to save statistics screens, boxscores, screenshots and replays in all game modes.
# Allow player accessories to be modified in Edit Player.
# Allow the user to toggle the frequency of automatic replays.
# Add the ability to control more than one team in Dynasty Mode or allow the users to switch teams more readily and easily.
# Allow the creation of custom teams using a set of generic basketball themed art (or custom art we create ourselves)

I will change my name to Shaneequa if they change these

# Display career stats in table format (ie similar to NBA.com and the back of trading cards) complete with career totals.
# Include a database of first and last names so that generated and created players can be assigned commentator/PA audio.
# Utilise a more PC friendly user interface with the PC version that takes advantage of the mouse (drop down and pop-up menus, use of the scroll wheel, etc).

THE NLSC FIX it already, why they will bother doing it.

# Balance the shot distribution so that it is realistic (ie no position domination, correct players taking the most amount of shots).
# Have each team run the specific plays they do in real life so that each team has its own distinct style and plays the same as their real life counterparts.
# Adjust the simulation engine so that all players get true to life statistics based on their real counterparts, including bench players who normally play a significant amount of minutes.[/b]

Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:11 pm

A nice comprehensive wishlist by a user(Ballin0) from the official NBA Live 08 forums.
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jsp ... 6&tstart=0
Most importantly, I would like the game to be ported from the next gen version. If that isn't a possibility at this time, utilizing as much pc technology is vital.

If the game is not ported from the next gen version, I would like to see the following things.

The following bugs/issues need to be addressed-

-Reorder roster or Depth chart needs to return to dynasty mode.
-The sim engine is atrocious. You know it needs to be improved, enough said.
-In-game auto substitution needs to improved, the center is subbed too frequently while the pg is almost never substituted. Autosub option should not be a solely in-game option.
-AI/CPU gameplay needs definite improvements. Recognize the situation based on the score difference, time left, players on the court and mismatches. Variety will keep the game fresh.
--Pg's shouldn't stand still when a play is being ran. If they are going to pass it to one side of the court, they should act like they are going to the opposite side, then come back and pass it to the intended player. They should also walk/jog the ball up the court from time to time.
--Better inside out and outside in game, utilizing high and low/post screens, pic and rolls, especially off ball.
-Teams seem to play one way or another, fast break or half court. It needs to be more dynamic.
-Allow buyouts for released/waived players to free cap space.
-Bring back celebrations after baskets for on cout ambience.
-Bring back on-court player and coach chatter, hecklers, etc.
- User-selectable team strategies based on the quarter or the score or both.
-Bring back the old plays that were taken out since NBA Live 2005 like box 1, 2, 3, etc.
- License the real music that they play in arenas
-Better idle animations for players just standing still
-Facial animations/emotion needs to return to the gameplay.
- Jersey movement, or at the very least, shorts movement to avoid clipping issues
-Bring back dynamic shadows rather then blobs.
-Add a little distortion to the court reflections like in real life.
-Add animated ads to the stadium, not just animated dornas.
-Add the jumbotron to the arena scoreboard similar to the screen during the dunk contest
-Add ability for 3 sets of accessories for each player, one for home, one for away, and one for alternate uniforms. Fix black socks issue on away games.
-A minimum of 512x512 resolution jerseys are a must. 256 resolution jerseys just look really bad. Add normal mapping to give the illusion that the jesey is folding with player movement.
-Fix problem with jersey texture mapping when a two teams with a certain necktype play against each other.
-Improve quality of textures and models, either by increasing the resolution and polygons, or by adding normal mapping and sweat.
-Allow navigation of the front end menu's with a controller's d- pad, especially during games.
-Change as many gameplay animations as you can to differentiate from previous versions.
-Add a few street courts and the ability to play 3 on 3 on them. This could also be an online team play feature for the PC.
-Play-by-Play speech can be improved by adding more situational commentary based on streaks, team records, races for the playoffs, statistical leaders, injuries, etc.
-Bursting out of triple threat position hasn't worked correctly since NBA Live 06. We all miss those moves. In 07/08, the player will just perform a regular freestyle move when attempting to perform triple threat drives.
-Add Own The Paint and Quick-Strike Dribbling to the PC version.
-Add different move sets similar to the dunk package feature to differentiate players based on their individual perimiter and post styles.
-The arena crowd is always packed. Some games should have empty seats. You can also add people getting up during quarter breaks and especially half time and in the fouth quarter during a blow out.
-Highlight reels during half time and/or after the game
-Add ability to save replays


Well spoken! :idea:

Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:29 pm

Thank You. :lol: (that's me) That thread is specific for the PC wishlist. I wonder what is going to happen with it for 09.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 am

Man, i didn't know it was you :lol:

Really detailed wishlist indeed.

Someone(like you) should write there something to make that wishlist updated IMO.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:14 am

i agree with the signature shots on the free throw line. it's funny because they emphasize the go to moves and sig shots and they did a really good job with the ft rituals but everybody shoots the same on free throws. I think that it should be harder to make free throws with poorly rated ft shooters (like how it used to be) and also there should be at least 1 animation for shooting fts

Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:32 am

A basic calculation:

If there are 30 nba teams plus 5 legend allstar teams(50s to 90s):
If there are 15 players in each team including injury list and DNPs.

35 * 15 = 525 different animations for FT.

I also included same players in 90s Allstar,
but,
I didn't even count free agents.

So, what do you think? Is it realistic to make 525 different FT animations and load the cd with them instead of other important animations and features?

Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:09 am

I would assume that as with the rituals and signature jumpshot styles, they would only include signature free throw shooting forms for noteworthy players and those who have a rather unique form (Joakim Noah, for example) plus a couple of generic animations to suit players who have a fairly standard shooting form.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:09 am

No, but is it too much to ask for AT LEAST 1?
I don't think Shaq should look the same as Nash when he shoots free throws.
2k's managed to do it pretty well.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:15 am

im just gonna add some more stuff

Things to avoid:
-i hate how players take behind the backboard shots
-also reduce the lob passes during a fast break or whenever someones cutting in the basket
-change the repetitive motion with the jumpshots

Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:22 pm

-upgraded substitutions intelligence
(in earlier nba live versions auto subs for cpu were better than now,now oftenly best players are sitting on bench in the last minute and last chance shot is taken by subbed player,in earlier nba live, all start five players are suubed back on court 1:30 before end of the game,so best players can play last minutes)
-3 teams trade
-upgraded cpu trade intelligence
(in 08 cpu teams often trade star players and in the same season they trade them back)
-10-days contract
-weekly awards
(player of the week,rookie of the week,etc)
-team owner expectations (like in nhl)
(before taking a team under your control,there should be definated team expectations)
-create a your own GM (like in nhl)
-nba magazine,which could highlight big trade deals,awards,manager,coach and player comments,etc
-players intelligence
(for example,star player can ask for a trade,if there is a bad player chemistry with teammates,team record is too bad,etc)

Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:20 am

TheMacGyver wrote:-team owner expectations (like in nhl)
(before taking a team under your control,there should be definated team expectations)


The Xbox 360/PS3 version actually features that in Dynasty Mode (though it can be switched off). Of course, seeing as though we're including features already in the game to stress which ones we'd like to see, it's still a good item for the list. :)

Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:47 am

We'd like to see:

-Free-throws' shooting system back to T-meter. (Y)
-More National teams (at least 12) and accurate FIBA courts.
-Players' photos easy editing.
-More missing legends. All of them playable in Dynasty mode for a season. :wink:

Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:48 am

I think a complete overhaul of the dynasty mode is needed. I would like to see dynasty mode with 3 screens.
Coach Screen:
1. Reorder Roster
2. Player Rotation
3. Coaching Style of Play (Fast Break, Halfcourt, Small Ball, 3 point Shooting, Erratic, Princeton style)
4. Plays (It gets annoying having to choose plays every game)
5. Defensive Strategy
6. Defensive Plays
7. Offensive/Defensive Agression Slider (A team that plays the passing lanes with help defense, or a team that plays man to man)
8. Coaches practice objectives to each player (Damon Jones needs to work on defense, Daniel Gibson needs to work on PG skills)
9. Edit player Screen w/ up to 3 player positions
10. Coaches AI (likes to get mad draw technicals, quickly takes players out not shooting well or not defending well)

GM Screen:
1. Trade Players Menu
2. Free Agent Menu
3. Rookie Scouting Menu
4. International scouting for non rookie players
5. Fire/Hire Coach/Scouts/Trainers at any point during the season

Owner Screen:
1. Budget
2. Income
3. Team Chemistry (players/coaches/gm)
4. Fire/Hire GM
5. Championship desire. (is he willing to spend for a championship)
6. Sell Team
7. Team Move
8. Fan Support

Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:23 am

To be honest. . since I messed around with the player attributes on the 360. The game loads so much faster. I'd say take off a bunch of those unnecessary attributes out.

The attributes effect the animations and the game look so unrealistic. having them low makes the players look more real. Although if you take them out, I wouldn't be able to edit them to make the game play how I want to play

Change the dunks. erase all of them and redo them, and make them more realistic. And also the lay ups. They should be more animation based and not done at the desktop

The puck in NHL has a "mind of it's own" I think EA should adapt this to NBA Live. Look at how the ball rattles in the net in NBA 2k. Live should have that in there.

Have the crowd more involved in the game. Especially in the 4th quarter, sometimes if the game is close, you don't even hear the crowd. This would only be grateful if we had more fluid gameplay

I think NBA Live should have more timing based animations. . .because it shows once EA uses the animations, the game looks more fluid and the players look less robotic. For example, it would make the blocks more presentable.

PLEASE PUT SOME BETTER DEFENSIVE ANIMATIONS. And smarter Defensive AI. THANK YOU. It's extremely difficult to play defense because of this. Bring back the Superstar Defense if you have to. Atleast there would be something to do on defense

My beef is mainly with the animations. Maybe you should get the guys who do NBA street to work on the dunk, layup animations. The players actually look and move like REAL human beings

Fix the SWISH animations. Make the Rim bend. Change the dunk sound to wear you can hear the spring. I want to get out of my seat when I slam on my opponent. And so should the crowd.

You can take out the player intros, cause no one really looks at them. Mainly cause it's all the same. Maybe just put a game preview and have key match ups, and at the end of the game bring that match up again and see who won. Raptors broadcasters have this x-factor thing before every game, check out a Raptors game to see what I'm talking about.

I really want this game to have better animation, FLUID animations I should say, before they even worry about anything else. The game already looks real, just make it feel real, and you'll have fans loving your game. . . . .still after a few tweaks lol

:mrgreen:
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Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:39 am

One crowd can be for better computers like all 3D and other for non better like on 2004.

Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:48 am

an idea for dynasty mode.
add a section like unto the owners area in madden 2006 (havent plaed or seen the new maddens lately)
allow the fans to show thier support or lack thereof with each player
give the option of having official giving back to the community by player days in said owner mode.
add the nbdl
create a nba commissioner mode
allow players to help medical personel to decide what method to use to heal a player. each option should have pros as well as cons.
note i have not played live 07 or 08 so i do not know if these options are already around
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