nba live 09 vs. nba 2k9

[ps3owner]

i like nba live right now. if you think 2k9 is great see this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3B7l2jD ... re=related

[Chabalaba]

are the pick and rolls good in 2k9?

[Patr1ck]

ps3owner, that happens in Live, too.

[The X]

are the pick and rolls good in 2k9?

Live's pick n rolls are much better than 2k's

[Andrew]

A little easy to exploit at times, though.

[The X]

A little easy to exploit at times, though.

yes, I did notice that too....there is no slider to tone it down? the pick 'n roll feels more real to life than 2k, even if it is too effective....

[Andrew]

Not specifically though there is a "Fight Through Screen Ability" slider which could help.

[ps3owner]

ps3owner, that happens in Live, too.

yes i know. based on what i read on the internet and on the 2k forums i thought that nba 2k9 did not have any flaws at all.

[JaoSming]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz52EOf09iU[/youtube]

God I remember getting annoyed by the 2k'rs commenting on my Live videos so I made that video.

[Andrew]

That's what bothers me, if NBA Live exhibits glitches like that people call it but 2K seems to be given a free pass. That's not to condemn the 2K series or defend Live's flaws (and there have been plenty throughout the years) but surely both developers should be held to the same standard.

[The X]

That's what bothers me, if NBA Live exhibits glitches like that people call it but 2K seems to be given a free pass. That's not to condemn the 2K series or defend Live's flaws (and there have been plenty throughout the years) but surely both developers should be held to the same standard.

it kind of depends on what aspect of the game....it seems to me that 2k series doesn't get much leeway for core stuff like gameplay, as much as Live series....but 2k series gets a lot more leeway in non-gameplay aspects, like graphics, menus etc....it goes both ways....

[Andrew]

I don't know about that but I guess it depends on the individual as well. Fanboys of both series are obviously going to downplay the negatives and bleat about the positives while doing the opposite for the other game, perhaps I've read too many fanboy comments about 2K and not enough fair, balanced impressions.

[The X]

I will say this, out of box, NBA 2k plays a bit too arcadey, too easy to score inside (Live has same issue)....both games need tinkering with to make more enjoyable....

[ThaLiveKing]

Live is more of a Simulation. Which is why it's better to do Dynasty in it

[HeatThreePeat]

I've heard 2k9 is much better-kind of found live a *ahem* disappointing buy.

[Andrew]

I will say this, out of box, NBA 2k plays a bit too arcadey, too easy to score inside (Live has same issue)....both games need tinkering with to make more enjoyable....

Definitely, at least for the geekiest of us.

[fjccommish]

Does NBA Live have better AI from the opposing team so that if I play against the Cavs, LeBron might take control and drop 50 on me?

[Rukawa_11]

I like a couple of things on Live and 2K...

On the Live, the courts are more realistic and detailed, the players don't slide on the court, the control are very good and i like the modes of game

In th 2K Series, the crowd are very real, the face of the players are much good, the loading screen with real plays of the best players are impressive and the graphics are awesome

[Andrew]

Does NBA Live have better AI from the opposing team so that if I play against the Cavs, LeBron might take control and drop 50 on me?

Generally the right players are scoring but the defense will take what it gives you, so if you leave Ben Wallace wide open under the hoop for a dunk the Cavs will try to get it to him even though he's usually not the first option. There isn't really an issue of point guard domination in the game but point guards who do score and are inclined to pull up for jumpers will do so if you leave them open or give them enough room. The "featured scorer" logic seems to work a bit better than Primacy did.

[fjccommish]

In 2K9 even if I don't put any special emphasis on superstars, they don't score any more than other players. It seems ball distribution is basically even, superstars don't get more touches. If they did, they might dominate because when they touch they do have the chance to do their things.

If I played 100 games in 2K9 against the Cavs, LeBron would likely never score more than about 30 points in any game.

[Andrew]

Well, he can go off for 50 in NBA Live 09 if you let him but at the same time it is possible to defend against star players as well, so you're a little better equipped than in past years (or the PS2 version of NBA Live 09, in which defense is a dirty word) where some players were almost guaranteed to go off for 40, 50 points unless you got them in foul trouble.

[Playmakers]

In 2K9 even if I don't put any special emphasis on superstars, they don't score any more than other players. It seems ball distribution is basically even, superstars don't get more touches. If they did, they might dominate because when they touch they do have the chance to do their things.

If I played 100 games in 2K9 against the Cavs, LeBron would likely never score more than about 30 points in any game.

I think both companies need to do a better job of making sure that the star players are shouldering the offensive load more often.

I wasn't very happy with Live 09 until I modified tons of ratings to star and key players.

I'm still not done but it gives me a better overall game now.....I'm going to do my own edits on 2K9 aswell because it appears the only way to get rid of certain issues is to fix the game play your self until you get the desired outcome you'd liek to see.

But both are very fun and addicting this year

[fjccommish]

What I noticed with many of the adjusted rosters is they turn down shooting for many players while leaving the superstars high. The problem with that is when playing against such a team it's often too easy to win because as a whole the team isn't scoring.

The superstar needs to be dialed up, he needs to get the ball more often, he needs to be more aggressive.

Dialing down everyone else doesn't make the superstar more aggressive, he's still the same.

[Andrew]

I'm still not done but it gives me a better overall game now.....I'm going to do my own edits on 2K9 aswell because it appears the only way to get rid of certain issues is to fix the game play your self until you get the desired outcome you'd liek to see.

I think that's always going to be the case for us realism geeks, at least to a certain extent. It's fortunate that both developers have provided some in-game tools to make those tweaks for anyone not completely satisfied with the experience out of the box.

[ps3owner]

I bought 2k9 on ebay. I noticed that in order to perform those realistic moves you need to press a lot of buttons. If NBA live can combine it's ease of use and the realistic moves of 2k9 then EA would be able to produce a great basketball game. I noticed that now you can edit the jersey numbers in 2k9. The only thing that I liked about live is that it's easy to play. 2ksports should at least limit the number of buttons that you need to press in order to play their game. Besides shooting the freethrow is difficult in this game.