Lagoa Court´s - KNICKS/CELTICS/PACERS/WOLVES preview!

Nice work on these courts, Lagoa! Btw, are you going to work on the no-texture jerseys anymore? It seems like they would be a great solution to the high-res crashes and if I recall correctly, you had about 75% of them done. If it will do any good I will beg for the rest of them !

Nice work on these courts, Lagoa! Btw, are you going to work on the no-texture jerseys anymore? It seems like they would be a great solution to the high-res crashes and if I recall correctly, you had about 75% of them done. If it will do any good I will beg for the rest of them !

I work on my Jerseys too!

You have no right to talk, Lagoa, since you use Dahl's courts as a base.

Look Webber Screens....is MINE work...90% mine work with diferente floor...dornas, textures, ebo model, lightmap....is ALL MY WORK.

Not compare this Dude!

I work 8/9 hours to release my courts!

8-9 hours?

Some 512x512 floor textures take about that much time to make just them.

Grizzlies courtwood take at least 10 hours, to find photos and make exact amount of planks of wood and put it wood grains one by one, and make sure the textures overlaps itself properly. And that the planks are the right length and widths. Takes long time to learn what works and what doesn't and what photos can be used as base and what can't. And then make it the right colour which as you know is very hard, cause looks different on tv and in photos and need to find middle point so that it looks like on tv but also photos. Also have to tweak the colour of yellow/light wood and also tweak the colour of red/brown darker wood seperately.



Also changed on Grizzlies court, colours, lines, centre logo colour, transparent shotclock and shape and size of bbd ebo, bbd ads and shockclock font, stadium ad boards, stadium corporate boxes (taken off photo), grizzlies and other team chairs (taken off real photo), lightmap, jumbotron textures (taken off real photo). All in all 20-30 hours.

Celts courtwood was hard also at least 8 hrs.

Hardest thing to find good photos to use. Then to try add woods one by one from photo and then try to get good colour. As you know when you change floor colour, you need to change court logos to the same colour as floor around the outline, also changed on celts court, court colour, transparent shotclock also with new shotclock fonts. Making fonts for transparent shotlock one of the most time consuming things, if you ever try it. Bad thing with transparent shotclock for celts court, the shotclock at the back doesn't work properly. So I try to edit Grizz bbd ebo to the shape of Celts bbd only to realise that it wouldn't work properly. Two hours down the drain. Overall celts court was only 12-14 hours, main thing that take time is the court wood texture.

Lakers court, also have new courtwood, but only take 2-3 hours because use Grizzlies wood but change colour and remove wood grains and mainly only resize to have correct width of wood planks. It's different for every court, and most of your courts (or Dahl or Looser) have really wide wood planks. But because it take so long to make new wood it's hard to fix.



New jumbotron logo for lakers court only take 1-2 hours, and also new stadium corporate box texture not take long. Hardest thing for lakers court, the colours I spend 6-8 hours just on colours. Because every time you change wood colour, and then court colour, and lines colour you also need to change the logos outline colour and centre court logo colour. And lakers court is hardest for colours because it look so different on tv and in photos. Sometimes purple looks blue, sometimes it look pale and other times it look deep purple. Sometimes wood colour looks pink and sometimes it looks white. Take many trial and errors and frustration, maybe because I suck or am too picky. Another hard thing on Lakers court is lightmap because the lighting of court is so that its bright in middle (I think because jumbotron has lights on it) and really dark near baselines and to get correct court colour have to add darker part in middle on lightmap and try to get right brightness so that courtwood looks right. Overall probably 11-14 hours.

Here is staples logo if you want to use it, I don't know if you made one or not.

IMO, not fair use "WEBBER COURTS PACK" name....

What do I call it then? "Lagoa, looser and Andreas Dahl's courts that I have changed on some things pack"? "IRPT roster with all new hotspots and ratings and 250 sigshots pack inspired by ignatus pack"?

Fucking ridiculous, all the name is, is for person to remember where they downloaded it on there downloads folder. Because after a PC format 2 months from now it's hard to remember what is what and if you have files called roster.rar, pack.rar you don't know what it is.

The main reason I use others work as a base is so I can focus on those little things without needing to spend 40+ hours making whole thing from scratch. For example, pdubs espn scoreboard you are using, that would take I don't know how many hours to make scoreboard but ALOT of hours. I make texture update that take at least 20 hours, but if I make scoreboard from scratch it take too many hours and I not even bother making or just make update and not release. If I know it make you angry I probably not release court pack but then I also think you disrespect my work but saying I have done nothing and that is why I reply. I try to give you and Dahl and looser credits because you guys do the hard work in the begginning all I try to do is put the cream and cherry on top. If giving credits isn't enough I don't know what else to do. All I can say is try making some 512x512 floors yourself because nba live 08 really needs it, and I'm done patching for now. These kind of politics don't make the game any better and only make things bad. Bye

Hey Webber...

If you like use 20% or 30% mine, no problem, but you use 90% Mine or other patches textures....

One court have more than 20 diferent textures, you change 4/5, and I DISRESPECT YOU? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Look, i use 8/12 Dahl courts in my edit, but look Dahl courts and mine...it´s 90% diferent in Screens... Look your patch and mine! It´s 90% MY WORK, MY TEXTURES, MY EBO EDITS (it´s hard to edit) and MY DORNAS....

I dont have problem if you use my courts as base, but change MININUM 50% of my work to put your name in patch!

It´s simple to understand man...

Great NO arena,thanx Lagoa cant wait!

Great Hornets court with updates waiting for release

Lagoa's right, too many members are stealing others' work and publish their patches as 100% their own work. Say the truth or don't publish it at all. I myself make changes in all kinds of patches I get in these forums, but I have never published them and even if I will than I will give all the credits to the people who actually created them in the first place.

ahh... I think giving credit is enough, man~
there's no use arguing on this, we all just mean for a better game.

I try to give you and Dahl and looser credits because you guys do the hard work in the begginning all I try to do is put the cream and cherry on top. If giving credits isn't enough I don't know what else to do.

Giving credit is a must clydeli, but when someone published a patch with 80%-90% someone else's work, that's unfair. I would be mad too if I made something from scratch and someone else tweaked it a bit and published as his own. We all want a better game, but without stealing others' work.

hey Lagoa

Maybe we can work together to produce more courts.

yosifun, anyway, If you read what WebberF1 replied, at least he spent
many hours tweak it (even if it's only a detailed little part) and he didn't mean
it stealing anyone's patch. (but sure he may should make it more clear that how
much he took from Lagoa's patch, not just giving credit.)

I just don't like seeing we guys arguing like this.

rlz the sweat patch!!!!!

Hey your courts are great man, are you going to be releasing all 30 courts in one download, if not can you please?

I will release 1x sweat patch. IMO, with this patch, all courts stop crashing with 2x jerseys.

Hope this will be your work from scratch and not a resized version of my 2x sweat.

I will release 1x sweat patch. IMO, with this patch, all courts stop crashing with 2x jerseys.

Hope this will be your work from scratch and not a resized version of my 2x sweat.

I edit your patch bro...

But i dont release this one like "LAGOA SWEAT PACTH" understand?

It´s just a fix to work with my courts. I put:

Pdub Sweat patch compatible with my courts. If you like it. I send to you, and you release. Hun?

FOR ALL:

My point of use other people patch is simple:

DONT PUT YOUR NAME if you change less than 60% of patches! Is not fair.

I use 10/12 Andreas Dahl and Looser courts in my job, but in final "work" i change mor than 80/90% of your patches...just look my screens....is totally diferent!

I dont have problem if all guys use my courts as base, but make "MAIN" textures, EBO, and another stuffs.

I dont have problem if all guys use my courts as base, but make "MAIN" textures, EBO, and another stuffs.

That's the problem. You think because you modify another person's work and change alot of things, that it makes it ok to do so. The point of patching is to create 100% original creations as much as possible.

So, for anyone who want's a 1x sweat patch compatible with Lagoa's courts + 2X Jerseys, here ya go.

1X Sweat Patch

Keep in mind that if you already have the 2x sweat patch, then you need to replace the sgsm/players/plyrtat.viv file with the original 08 plyrtat.viv file. You can get it off your dvd. Also, any 2x(512x512) tattoos in your sgsm directory will need to be resized to 1x(256x256) or else they will not show up correctly when you play.

Hey Pdu.. What's mean 2x sweet.. :O What's the difference from the 1x.. Pls give some tips or shots.. tnks in advance

Short story - I made sweat patch for 06. In 07, format changed, so I converted it quickly to 07 and released Arm and Leg (1x) sweat patch. Later, Glen figures out how to get 2x armbands but finds out that we need to 2x the arms and tattoos to make it work. So I 2x'd the arms and made sweat for them. It doesn't look much better then 1x becuase I didn't put too much time into it.

With sweat patch 1x, 99% of crashing problems disapears!

I dont have problem if all guys use my courts as base, but make "MAIN" textures, EBO, and another stuffs.

That's the problem. You think because you modify another person's work and change alot of things, that it makes it ok to do so. The point of patching is to create 100% original creations as much as possible.

Dont compare this Dude.

Look my courts like Denver, and Dahl Denver. I use Dahl as base, but change 90% of total work. Just look screens, all stuffs are diferents...logos, lines, ebo, backboards, stadium, dornas...

Now, look "Webber court" and MY COURT...it´s the same work, just diferent floor and 2 or 3 textures.

AGAIN: IMO, the problem is not use other works as base. It´s a game community, we work to make better game for ALL COMMUNITY. The problem is change 10% of exists patch and put his name him!

It´s simple Dude....

I agree with Lagoa. I don't care who makes the patch as long as it makes the game better than EA's crap. Thank you Lagoa, you have the best courts, period.

Don't worry Lagoa! We need your perfect and custom work for a nice Nba live

when is the hornets update court release!

Hey Felas!

T-Wolves Update! I create new line for T-Wolves, like real life! See in screens!





Now, i will work and Pistons and Bucks new lines, like Wolves!

I will release Hornets/Wolves tuesday or wed!

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