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Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:45 am

這MJ正翻了!! YOU ROCK!! (Y)

Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:10 am

You are sick man :shock:, only please make more our time NBA players ;)

Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:28 am

I had fixed his cheeks and teeth last night.
Here are more open mouth version preview:
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:47 am

Ah... Sick. (Y)

:bowdown:

Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:51 am

urh28 wrote:I had fixed his cheeks and teeth last night.
Here are more open mouth version preview:
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Congratulations on another gay screen Urh! Jordan loves you! :mrgreen:

"Be like Mike." :lol: Great face anyway. (Y)

Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:24 pm

CKal wrote:
urh28 wrote:I had fixed his cheeks and teeth last night.
Here are more open mouth version preview:
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Congratulations on another gay screen Urh! Jordan loves you! :mrgreen:

"Be like Mike." :lol: Great face anyway. (Y)


Ha ha~ :lol:
How about this↓
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:43 pm

wow some of the best Jordan faces i've ever seen.

Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:45 pm

pls release before it become michael jackson :lol: ur really great urh28 (Y)

Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:39 pm

Nice Jordan, tounge out is great idea! Maybe next Tim Hardaway? Photo:
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Yes this is nba live 98 :P

Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:52 am

urh28 wrote:Ha ha~ :lol:
How about this↓
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:lol:

funny shit about shit man (Y)

Keep them coming :mrgreen:

Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:03 am

hehe.. as Q said.. One of the best MJ here... IT is comperative with Glen's one.. (Y) Verry clean job urh.. Keep this up (Y) (Y)

Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:12 am

Yep. Best MJ here. A lot of variety we can choose from.

By the way, our Kobe is close to being done, urh28 :mrgreen:
You mentioned that you want it in your game to play 1 on 1 with Kobe!
Remember to keep checking our thread for the latest stuff! :D

Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:24 am

yes... keep editing something you didn't do, don't even bother to ask the original author, and release it as your own... after all, that's the trend now isn't it?

what a truly wonderful way to show your "respect" towards someone...

Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:56 am

Glen, your 666th post is so evil. :o

This is what I think - I realized that there is this one problem - the complete "sgsm" that can be found in the Chinese forums did not state who made those headshapes, and when patchers just took the headshape out of our "sgsm", it turned out that your work is used.

Many of the patchers did not know that they stole the patches, because they were already stolen previously. :?

Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:32 am

hmm, here's what i think CKal - i saw it was you guys (along with Killer Crossover aka OG, njkobe and modifly, thanks by the way) who 1st caught the matadorre fellow because the KG that he said he made looked familiar in your eyes in your own recollection, and true enough it turned out to be mine...

now just browsing through the earlier pages i saw this urh28 post this:

urh28 wrote:Glen,
you are the elder generation that I respect very much .
I love your young version Jordan, :applaud: differ from your rookie version and wizards version,
my Jordan is in a top period,
just like 1996~1998 of his NBA career .


now it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he downloaded every jordan i did and remembers it quite clearly on that quote and not just because he grabbed my MJ from some random chinese sgsm folder...

don't worry though, i'm not here to take down "his oh so hard work" because i'll be the proverbial villain again with the way i now talk, but in reality is the victim again from the ever present patch "borrowing" in these sections... he can release whatever he wants to release, claim it to whatever he claims it to be for those guys waiting for "his" jordan... but taking back to that quote, he says he respects me? thats fine and all... but to be honest, right now i couldn't say the same thing to him as a patcher... he never even bother to ask me in PM, nor in my thread that was recently BUMPED... you and modifly on the other hand earned respect points because i see how hard you are working on your own kobe and not just recycling something i did, put some tongue, open the mouth or something for his "fun" ...

there 667th post, no more evilness... GO CELTICSSS!!! JK :wink:

Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:26 pm

Glen wrote:hmm, here's what i think CKal - i saw it was you guys (along with Killer Crossover aka OG, njkobe and modifly, thanks by the way) who 1st caught the matadorre fellow because the KG that he said he made looked familiar in your eyes in your own recollection, and true enough it turned out to be mine...

now just browsing through the earlier pages i saw this urh28 post this:

urh28 wrote:Glen,
you are the elder generation that I respect very much .
I love your young version Jordan, :applaud: differ from your rookie version and wizards version,
my Jordan is in a top period,
just like 1996~1998 of his NBA career .


now it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he downloaded every jordan i did and remembers it quite clearly on that quote and not just because he grabbed my MJ from some random chinese sgsm folder...

don't worry though, i'm not here to take down "his oh so hard work" because i'll be the proverbial villain again with the way i now talk, but in reality is the the victim again from the ever present patch "borrowing" in these sections... he can release whatever he wants to release, claim it to whatever he claims it to be... but taking back to that quote, he says he respects me? thats fine and all... but to be honest, right now i couldn't say the same thing to him as a patcher... he never even bother to ask me in PM, nor in my thread that was recently BUMPED... you and modifly on the other hand earned respect points because i see how hard you are working on your own kobe and not just recycling something i did, put some tongue, open the mouth or something for his "fun" ...

there 667th post, no more evilness... GO CELTICSSS!!! JK :wink:


Um.. thanks for the respect points Glen, but are you saying that urh28 uses your Jordan as a base or something? Or did he uses part of your Jordan in his? Or did he tweak your Jordan ebo? I mean, not again. You're really the victim of patch borrowing if he really does what you think.

urh28, man, I'd love to see you clarify a few things... I hope you know what they are :?

Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:27 pm

MJ's CF:
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MJ's ebo:
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OK.
I won't release the MJ patch…
sorry everybody,
I spent a lot of time to make the MJ's CF just for fun.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:31 pm

i think it could looking better if you make it 2x.but looks really good

Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:39 pm

Wait urh28, we're not accusing you of using Glen's work.. we're just curious.

So can you just say whether you use it or not, if you did not, then it's OK!

You posting the preview doesn't clarify anything yet because they look awfully similar..

Just say whether what Glen think is true or not, that's all we want to know.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:30 pm

I use this Jordan as a base to modify.↓
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I did not know who made this Jordan's patch.
I downloaded and used it since I play live 07.
It looks similar to Glen's,
but after opening the file in FSHLine,
I found that it has something differ from Glen's 3 versions.

Yes,I did.
I downloaded Glen's MJ(college, rookie, and wizards versions).
Avoid comparing with Glen's,
I make another period time of jordan's patch intentionally.
After according to Glen's version,
I find that I can strengthen lighting effect on the cyberface.
So I spent a lot of time searching MJ's pics,
making the lighting effect on the cyberface more naturally as possible by using photoshop.

And I also spent a lot of time to modify the headshape,
fixed chin,neck,eyebrow bone and skull radian…
narrow his eyes and adjust eye tail radian…
all I do is just want to share the more realistic jordan's patch.

I won't release the patch.
Sorry,Glen.
You're the best.
I'm just a amateur live series fan,
and I have a lot of work to do.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:55 pm

Glen, if you are reading now then I hope you will understand why he used your patches. It's for a good reason. Like CKal said, people dont know that they are using other people's patches because it has already been stolen once. I know you'll understand him and forgive him for what he have done.



urh28, thanks for clarifying things, making things understoodable.

It will be a shame, if you do not release your Jordan patch. After all the hard work and determination you put in, if you decided not to share it then I'm really disappointed.

What you should do is PM Glen and ask for his permission to release your Jordan that was based on his. I'm more than sure that Glen will give you permission.

You spent a lot of time fixing a lot of things, and you have done them very well.
All the lighting effect on Jordan is absolutely awesome. The headshape that you modified is also spotted on. It will be very disappointing to see those work only in your game.

As a CF patcher like you, I woud like to make a request and I sincerely hope that you will complete my request :

Please PM Glen and ask him for permission to release your Jordan that was based on his. Glen did not want anything but people to ask him first if they want to use his work as a base or re-releasing. I know that you do not know who first made it, and that you used it since Live 07. It is not your fault but now that you've already know Glen made it, you should talk to him. As I said, I'm sure he will forgive you and give you permission to release it.

You are a very talented patcher, and it will be absolutely devastating if you do not continue to serve the community with your top notch faces. You shall not give up, but you shall solved the problem that you are facing and you shall continue.

I believed that you will do the right thing. I got faith in you.

That is my request. Hope it is not the last.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:05 pm

even though i'm not totally buying your excuse urh28 (i'm not going into details anymore so you won't get into deeper trouble)... but since you acknowledged it now and apologized, i'm fine with it... lets leave it at that, you can release your jordan for the guys that wants it (never even recall prohibiting you to do so in the 1st place), just make sure before releasing anything next time to give credit where credit is due so you won't have to explain yourself with tons of pictures... :wink:

and remember, GO CELTICSSS!!! JK

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:00 pm

Glen, glad you understand.. things are finally settled. :D


urh28, hope you take my request :wink:

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:47 pm

Thanks,Glen.
After considering,I still kept deciding not to release.

I think the MJ's patch should be re-released by you,
the original author,
just like you re-make your Kobe(MVP24) recently.
Let's expect the MJ's patch of master Glen! :bowdown:

Modifly,
Although Glen says he is fine with it,
But I still care very much for his words,
especially talk about "his" jordan,"respect"…
Sorry…I can't take your request. :wink:

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:56 pm

it's sad to hear you say "not to release",your hard work Should be respected.
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